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NNE Winter 2015-16 Part 1


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St. John is almost always ice-locked there by mid Dec.  This year, not even much on the edges.

 

Yeah I noticed that too...almost no ice up there is fairly remarkable.

 

Anyway, I love watching upslope rain fall outside my window at home following a cold front in mid-December on CAA NW winds.  This is like what happens in September and October and you see me posting about "If only this was December it'd be a nice 1-4" fluff event on the backside of a cutter."  Not this year, ha.

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I would have a melt down but: 

 

  1. It would not change anything
  2. Its been so warm there is nothing to actually melt  :cry:

 

 

I'm just absolutely amazed at it at this point.  This is late October climo for like weeks on end in December.

 

We are actually cheering on icy or firm snow conditions (Sunday was something special out there, and I never have been happier that the snow set-up rock hard), just because it means the snow isn't melting. 

 

What's painful is watching waves of wind-blown rain roll through the yard, knowing these would be some fun snow squalls in just about any other winter.  Even 2006-2007 had 10" of snow at BTV in December, and I thought that was a horrible month.

 

Its not worth freaking out about, just sit back and marvel at it at this point.

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Meh, I probably won't melt at all. I'm going to be going back and forth between here and my parents several times in the coming months and a mild winter would probably be easier to deal with on a practical level. My wife would have to snowblow, shovel, stay home with the boy on snow days etc. Having said that, I would still prefer dealing with the inconvenience of snow than not having any.

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I'm just absolutely amazed at it at this point. This is late October climo for like weeks on end in December.

We are actually cheering on icy or firm snow conditions (Sunday was something special out there, and I never have been happier that the snow set-up rock hard), just because it means the snow isn't melting.

What's painful is watching waves of wind-blown rain roll through the yard, knowing these would be some fun snow squalls in just about any other winter. Even 2006-2007 had 10" of snow at BTV in December, and I thought that was a horrible month.

Its not worth freaking out about, just sit back and marvel at it at this point.

Does BTV have anything through OCT, NOV, DEC?

I don't think they have ever been shut out in December have they? I thought I read that on the NWS page, that the lowest was around 1.2" or something.

Still have half the month to go to sneak in something.

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Does BTV have anything through OCT, NOV, DEC?

I don't think they have ever been shut out in December have they? I thought I read that on the NWS page, that the lowest was around 1.2" or something.

Still have half the month to go to sneak in something.

 

BTV with 0.2" from snow showers at the end of November.  That's it.

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BTV with 0.2" from snow showers at the end of November.  That's it.

 

And frankly that is the most liberal .2" i've ever seen. I saw frost deeper than that this winter. 

 

At this point I'm starting to openly root for a record. Why not? It already is going to suck, might as well be a memorable suck (hence why my sixers fandom has not waned).  That way when it all turns around it will be even sweeter. 

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And frankly that is the most liberal .2" i've ever seen. I saw frost deeper than that this winter.

At this point I'm starting to openly root for a record. Why not? It already is going to suck, might as well be a memorable suck (hence why my sixers fandom has not waned). That way when it all turns around it will be even sweeter.

Record latest date for BTV to get 1.0" of snow is December 23rd, 1948...that seems like a lock.

And to compare this to 2006 at BTV:

December 2006...+6.8 and 10" of snow.

December 2015 (to date)...+11.1 and 0.0" of snow.

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Totally unrelated to weather, but I know we have a few drone operators here in the NNE thread.

 

Looks like the FAA is now regulating it and will require you to register your "aircraft". 

 

http://www.tetongravity.com/story/adventure/sorry-guys-the-drone-party-is-over

 

 

According to NPR, the long-awaited regulations from the FAA released yesterday say that the federal agency will instead be considering them unmanned aircraft, and their operators real pilots who will be regulated in much the same manner as real aircraft and helicopter pilots. This applies to any drones between half a pound and 55 pounds, and most users will not be allowed to fly anything bigger.

 

As far as we understand, commercial drone pilots will need to have some sort of FAA-certified pilot's license as well, and The Verge has a funny article about how freelance photographers hoping to shoot from drones commercially are getting their pilot's licenses in a cheap, fast way you'd never imagine: by learning to fly hot air balloons. We'd imagine, though, that as the FAA continues to hash out regulations for small drones, drone-specific pilot schools and programs will emerge.

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LOCATION STORM TOTAL TIME/DATE COMMENTS

SNOWFALL OF

/INCHES/ MEASUREMENT

MAINE

...AROOSTOOK COUNTY...

WESTON 11.0 716 PM 12/15 RELAYED BY WAGM

ORIENT 9.0 521 PM 12/15 TRAINED SPOTTER

2 ESE MADAWASKA 8.1 311 PM 12/15 1.19 LIQUID

SHERMAN 8.0 400 PM 12/15 NOW FREEZING DRIZZLE

6 N PATTEN 8.0 651 PM 12/15 TRAINED SPOTTER

1 E SHERMAN 7.0 519 PM 12/15 PUBLIC

LILLE 6.6 330 PM 12/15 TRAINED SPOTTER

1 SW NORTH AMITY 6.5 545 PM 12/15 TRAINED SPOTTER

CARIBOU NWS 6.4 417 PM 12/15 2 DAY TOTAL

1 ENE PRESQUE ISLE 6.3 345 PM 12/15 TRAINED SPOTTER

2 NE FORT FAIRFIELD 6.0 206 PM 12/15 TRAINED SPOTTER

2 S SHERMAN 5.5 458 PM 12/15 SOCIAL MEDIA

WOODLAND 5.0 400 PM 12/15 SOCIAL MEDIA

4 ENE NEW SWEDEN 5.0 210 PM 12/15 TRAINED SPOTTER

1 ESE PRESQUE ISLE 4.8 105 PM 12/15 TRAINED SPOTTER

2 ESE HOULTON 4.5 428 PM 12/15 TRAINED SPOTTER

1 S HOULTON 4.0 512 PM 12/15 TRAINED SPOTTER

3 W STOCKHOLM 4.0 305 PM 12/15 SOCIAL MEDIA

1 SSW HOULTON 3.9 410 PM 12/15 TRAINED SPOTTER

2 SSE ASHLAND 3.1 335 PM 12/15 TRAINED SPOTTER

...PENOBSCOT COUNTY...

SHIN POND 6.3 248 PM 12/15 PUBLIC

LINCOLN 5.0 452 PM 12/15 SOCIAL MEDIA

MILLINOCKET 5.0 300 PM 12/15 SOCIAL MEDIA

WINN 3.5 125 PM 12/15 SOCIAL MEDIA

8 NE GREENFIELD 2.3 717 PM 12/15 PUBLIC

HUDSON 2.0 1251 PM 12/15 SOCIAL MEDIA

BANGOR FSS 2.0 420 PM 12/15 COOP/RIVER

GARLAND 2.0 500 PM 12/15 SOCIAL MEDIA

GLENBURN 2.0 210 PM 12/15 SOCIAL MEDIA

LEVANT 1.7 318 PM 12/15 PUBLIC

BANGOR 1.0 450 PM 12/15 SOCIAL MEDIA

...PISCATAQUIS COUNTY...

5 S MILO 6.2 445 PM 12/15 SOCIAL MEDIA

BROWNVILLE 4.0 125 PM 12/15 SOCIAL MEDIA

MILO 3.5 525 PM 12/15 SOCIAL MEDIA

2 SSE KINGSBURY 2.5 141 PM 12/15 TRAINED SPOTTER

1 NNW ABBOT 2.0 402 PM 12/15 TRAINED SPOTTER

SANGERVILLE 2.0 453 PM 12/15 SOCIAL MEDIA

...WASHINGTON COUNTY...

1 N DANFORTH 8.0 421 PM 12/15 PUBLIC

TOPSFIELD 7.5 625 PM 12/15 COOP/RIVER

ROBBINSTON 4.5 337 PM 12/15 PUBLIC

GRAND LAKE STREAM 4.5 305 PM 12/15 TRAINED SPOTTER

1 S BARING 4.0 242 PM 12/15 TRAINED SPOTTER

NORTHFIELD 2.5 200 PM 12/15 SOCIAL MEDIA

EAST MACHIAS 2.0 400 PM 12/15 SOCIAL MEDIA

PERRY 2.0 515 PM 12/15 TRAINED SPOTTER

MARSHFIELD 1.0 115 PM 12/15 TRAINED SPOTTER

4 E EAST MACHIAS 1.0 217 PM 12/15 TRAINED SPOTTER

1 SW EAST MACHIAS 1.0 214 PM 12/15 TRAINED SPOTTER

EASTPORT 0.5 605 PM 12/15 TRAINED SPOTTER

CHERRYFIELD 0.3 415 PM 12/15 SOCIAL MEDIA

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LOCATION          STORM TOTAL     TIME/DATE   COMMENTS
                     SNOWFALL           OF
                     /INCHES/   MEASUREMENT

MAINE

...AROOSTOOK COUNTY...
   WESTON                11.0   716 PM 12/15  RELAYED BY WAGM
   ORIENT                 9.0   521 PM 12/15  TRAINED SPOTTER
   2 ESE MADAWASKA        8.1   311 PM 12/15  1.19 LIQUID
   SHERMAN                8.0   400 PM 12/15  NOW FREEZING DRIZZLE
   6 N PATTEN             8.0   651 PM 12/15  TRAINED SPOTTER
   1 E SHERMAN            7.0   519 PM 12/15  PUBLIC
   LILLE                  6.6   330 PM 12/15  TRAINED SPOTTER
   1 SW NORTH AMITY       6.5   545 PM 12/15  TRAINED SPOTTER
   CARIBOU NWS            6.4   417 PM 12/15  2 DAY TOTAL
   1 ENE PRESQUE ISLE     6.3   345 PM 12/15  TRAINED SPOTTER
   2 NE FORT FAIRFIELD    6.0   206 PM 12/15  TRAINED SPOTTER
   2 S SHERMAN            5.5   458 PM 12/15  SOCIAL MEDIA
   WOODLAND               5.0   400 PM 12/15  SOCIAL MEDIA
   4 ENE NEW SWEDEN       5.0   210 PM 12/15  TRAINED SPOTTER
   1 ESE PRESQUE ISLE     4.8   105 PM 12/15  TRAINED SPOTTER
   2 ESE HOULTON          4.5   428 PM 12/15  TRAINED SPOTTER
   1 S HOULTON            4.0   512 PM 12/15  TRAINED SPOTTER
   3 W STOCKHOLM          4.0   305 PM 12/15  SOCIAL MEDIA
   1 SSW HOULTON          3.9   410 PM 12/15  TRAINED SPOTTER
   2 SSE ASHLAND          3.1   335 PM 12/15  TRAINED SPOTTER

...PENOBSCOT COUNTY...
   SHIN POND              6.3   248 PM 12/15  PUBLIC
   LINCOLN                5.0   452 PM 12/15  SOCIAL MEDIA
   MILLINOCKET            5.0   300 PM 12/15  SOCIAL MEDIA
   WINN                   3.5   125 PM 12/15  SOCIAL MEDIA
   8 NE GREENFIELD        2.3   717 PM 12/15  PUBLIC
   HUDSON                 2.0  1251 PM 12/15  SOCIAL MEDIA
   BANGOR FSS             2.0   420 PM 12/15  COOP/RIVER
   GARLAND                2.0   500 PM 12/15  SOCIAL MEDIA
   GLENBURN               2.0   210 PM 12/15  SOCIAL MEDIA
   LEVANT                 1.7   318 PM 12/15  PUBLIC
   BANGOR                 1.0   450 PM 12/15  SOCIAL MEDIA

...PISCATAQUIS COUNTY...
   5 S MILO               6.2   445 PM 12/15  SOCIAL MEDIA
   BROWNVILLE             4.0   125 PM 12/15  SOCIAL MEDIA
   MILO                   3.5   525 PM 12/15  SOCIAL MEDIA
   2 SSE KINGSBURY        2.5   141 PM 12/15  TRAINED SPOTTER
   1 NNW ABBOT            2.0   402 PM 12/15  TRAINED SPOTTER
   SANGERVILLE            2.0   453 PM 12/15  SOCIAL MEDIA

...WASHINGTON COUNTY...
   1 N DANFORTH           8.0   421 PM 12/15  PUBLIC
   TOPSFIELD              7.5   625 PM 12/15  COOP/RIVER
   ROBBINSTON             4.5   337 PM 12/15  PUBLIC
   GRAND LAKE STREAM      4.5   305 PM 12/15  TRAINED SPOTTER
   1 S BARING             4.0   242 PM 12/15  TRAINED SPOTTER
   NORTHFIELD             2.5   200 PM 12/15  SOCIAL MEDIA
   EAST MACHIAS           2.0   400 PM 12/15  SOCIAL MEDIA
   PERRY                  2.0   515 PM 12/15  TRAINED SPOTTER
   MARSHFIELD             1.0   115 PM 12/15  TRAINED SPOTTER
   4 E EAST MACHIAS       1.0   217 PM 12/15  TRAINED SPOTTER
   1 SW EAST MACHIAS      1.0   214 PM 12/15  TRAINED SPOTTER
   EASTPORT               0.5   605 PM 12/15  TRAINED SPOTTER
   CHERRYFIELD            0.3   415 PM 12/15  SOCIAL MEDIA
F all of them. Even the .3 in Cherryfield.
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Totally unrelated to weather, but I know we have a few drone operators here in the NNE thread.

 

Looks like the FAA is now regulating it and will require you to register your "aircraft". 

 

http://www.tetongravity.com/story/adventure/sorry-guys-the-drone-party-is-over

I read the FAQ's yesterday.  Free to register my drone this time around although they want a CCard to charge the $5 to.  They will then issue a credit. Great, another database with my CC for hackers to break into.  I will get an email with my drone reg number which I have to mark on my drone.  I also have to carry the form with me if I am flying.  I can see a local cop giving me a ticket for flying without the form.  I actually think it is a good idea.  If I crash and cause damage to someone else its easy to track back to owner, like wise if a drone was ever involved with a plane we would know the owner assuming the drone survives.

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I am thinking about splurging on the Parrot Bebop 2.0. Looks like a good mid-range drone short of blowing 1500 on the DJI Phantom. While that would be awesome that is way out of reach right now. I don't mind paying 5 bucks to register it. I would only really use it in rural locations anyway.

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Yeah its been snowing more often than not today, but likewise I can't find anything on radar.  I saw that Whiteface was actually above the inversion this morning, and we even had some blue sky at the summit earlier today.  So the cloud depth can't be higher than like 5,000ft...but yet we were getting good dendritic growth and temps aren't necessarily all that favorable for it.

 

I was equally confused as there's nothing on radar, like absolutely nothing, so I'm wondering if the beam is going over the top of it?  But the BTV radar usually samples the orographic snows fine.

 

I have no idea.  I've got flurries at home too, so they are drifting downwind.

 

Yeah, I was looking out from my office earlier today and it clearly looked like snow along the spine, but I saw essentially nothing on radar.  It’s nice to have those ground truth shots you put in the ski thread.  On their web cam you can see that the lower slopes of the main mountain at Bolton Valley are whitened as well.  I didn’t get a chance to send in observations this morning, but on my way through the Winooski Valley it looked like the snow line was around the 2,000’ mark.  It seems a bit lower than that now actually.

 

Someone in the Greens could pick up some surprise snow too....if any lake effect upslope combo hits someone for a few hours I could see a sneaky 3-4" somewhere.

 

It’s funny you say that because that’s just the feel I’m getting from looking at the models.  It’s the sort of thing you can’t count on, but the possibility is out there.  It’s been a couple of weeks now since our last valley event, so it would be nice to get a little something to fit with December.

 

Even if they systems aren’t going to be all snow, it sure looks like there’s the potential for things to pick up this second half of the month.  We’re sort of due – I checked my data and mean snowfall for our site just passed 30” as of today.

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Yeah, I was looking out from my office earlier today and it clearly looked like snow along the spine, but I saw essentially nothing on radar.  It’s nice to have those ground truth shots you put in the ski thread.  On their web cam you can see that the lower slopes of the main mountain at Bolton Valley are whitened as well.  I didn’t get a chance to send in observations this morning, but on my way through the Winooski Valley it looked like the snow line was around the 2,000’ mark.  It seems a bit lower than that now actually.

 

 

It’s funny you say that because that’s just the feel I’m getting from looking at the models.  It’s the sort of thing you can’t count on, but the possibility is out there.  It’s been a couple of weeks now since our last valley event, so it would be nice to get a little something to fit with December.

 

Even if they systems aren’t going to be all snow, it sure looks like there’s the potential for things to pick up this second half of the month.  We’re sort of due – I checked my data and mean snowfall for our site just passed 30” as of today.

 

Well now I'm pretty sure it wasn't on radar likely is because the beam was too high...real shallow stuff because this afternoon the upper mountain broke out of the clouds and into blue sky.

 

So it was snowing out of a cloud that was literally just sitting at like summit height.

 

This afternoon the top was in the blue skies as the cloud deck lowered.

 

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I'm not registering until the smoke clears a little or maybe never.  Plenty of rc action to be had under 250 grams.  May just put my heavier stuff up for sale, not sure yet.  I don't want to be the guy they come talking to when someone (who doesn't register) causes a problem.  

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I am thinking about splurging on the Parrot Bebop 2.0. Looks like a good mid-range drone short of blowing 1500 on the DJI Phantom. While that would be awesome that is way out of reach right now. I don't mind paying 5 bucks to register it. I would only really use it in rural locations anyway.

I don't know much about Parrot, but I think in general I would advise that If you want to get into it, go for hobby stuff and not consumer oriented.  Look around rcgroups.com 

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