wolfsheepsheadbay Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 The Para EPS is in a word...snorvana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 That would be super confusing That's what I was thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 That's what I was thinking But lately we sell to love super confusing lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Yeah i agree as well, the banter thread is unfortunately a necessity...leave the typical bs'ing, whining, imby questions/thoughts etc in there. Have a monthly obs/discussion thread that contain actual meteorological posts, and when threats get far enough in, specific threat threads.This somehow actually makes sense, who wrote it for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Sleet. First frozen precip of the year here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I bet all our snow will come in a relatively short period like many years since 2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 This the J- M 500 mb EURO seasonal . Expect that to go right through Feb . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Slightly above normal here, which is fine for snowfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Yeah, the EPS take us into full pattern change territory from around January 9-10 on. They skip over the original January Euro seasonal and go right into the pattern it had been showing for February with the trough in the East and a -EPO/+PNA/-AO. We get our wheels in motion between the 1st thru the 5th and by the 9th it`s full bore . Considering where we have been the front 5 in Jan will feel cold even though it`s N . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Potentialy the greatest step down from December to January temperatures that you are going to see around here. Just breaking even for January would represent close to a 20 degree drop in real mean temperatures from the current December. I believe one of the previous greatest December to January drop was the 84-85 La Nina when the January average was 15 less than December going from 43.8 to 28.8. December so far....51.6 January average.....32.6 I am only N for Jan . My point this entire time has been you are going into a N regime when the splits are 38/28. The 2nd half of the month looks flat out cold but I will not take the Temps down anymore. I am happy with the call of the flip to N with that set up at 500 it's a win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Pretty crazy El Nino...MJO...Barents low sea ice feedback...pattern change. It looks like something major wants to come out of the panhandle all the way to New England and then the Vortex will collapse in If we don't snow in that set up , we will just be unlucky. Having all the indices line up like this is rare that's a big time pattern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 All those tired of the constant use of the word "torch" please raise your hand, as well as the overuse of "LOL". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Post Jan 10 looks really good as all indices line up in our favor with the exception of the NAO, but that's okay. It'll probably get negative eventually but may lag a week or two after the AO dips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Post Jan 10 looks really good as all indices line up in our favor with the exception of the NAO, but that's okay. It'll probably get negative eventually but may lag a week or two after the AO dips. EVERY SIGNAL is/becomes favorable INCLUDING THE NAO . Very rare . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Updated AO. It keeps on falling. Post Jan 10 looks really good as all indices line up in our favor with the exception of the NAO, but that's okay. It'll probably get negative eventually but may lag a week or two after the AO dips. Looks like the NAO will be heading towards neutral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I believe the last time that we had a -NAO,-AO and +PNA was 2009-2010. That winter was a good one here but a great one in the mid atlantic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 It looks like something major wants to come out of the panhandle all the way to New England and then the Vortex will collapse in If we don't snow in that set up , we will just be unlucky. Having all the indices line up like this is rare that's a big time pattern We'll see how the new EPS 45 day snowfall does. They are bullish on day 17-27. I like that notice posted below about please not posting to social media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 All those tired of the constant use of the word "torch" please raise your hand, as well as the overuse of "LOL". Tired of you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 It looks like something major wants to come out of the panhandle all the way to New England and then the Vortex will collapse in If we don't snow in that set up , we will just be unlucky. Having all the indices line up like this is rare that's a big time pattern what time frame is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 what time frame is this? Something could come out of the S and may come right up the EC . At the very least this collapses in. So day 13- 20 is a potentially a really good period . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Something will come out of the S and may come right up the EC . Then this collapses in. So day 13- 20 is a potentially a really good period . What are the temps here if such a map verifies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 What are the temps here if such a map verifies? Depends on/if there is snow cover and exactly where that NEG will center itself . I think it`s coming both the Euro and Canadian see it . Too far to tell , but it`s not NORMAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 The Euro has company , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanksfan Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 EVERY SIGNAL is/becomes favorable INCLUDING THE NAO . Very rare . If I'm not mistaken the boxing day storm was the last time we had the "dream pattern setup" presented to us. This upcoming pattern would be rare indeed with all the indices in our favor. But with such a great setup comes tremendous pressure on us for the pattern to produce. It screams KU and for it not to happen would be a bitter disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Tired of you I don't know who you are anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 If I'm not mistaken the boxing day storm was the last time we had the "dream pattern setup" presented to us. This upcoming pattern would be rare indeed with all the indices in our favor. But with such a great setup comes tremendous pressure on us for the pattern to produce. It screams KU and for it not to happen would be a bitter disappointment. It is a great pattern , it does not mean it will produce . But to see such a major flip like this in the means after this December as Chris pointed out you at least have a chance to see one of the greatest Dec to Jan reversals . How that for east based . Sorry , could not resist . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Of course, we must be very careful/ cross our fingers, pray,etc. That this will all pan out and not end up be too good! Of course if we end up with to much cold,I'd imagine things could end up being suppressed to south. I can remember that happening, what 2 or 3 winters ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Potentialy the greatest step down from December to January temperatures that you are going to see around here. Just breaking even for January would represent close to a 20 degree drop in real mean temperatures from the current December. I believe one of the previous greatest December to January drop was the 84-85 La Nina when the January average was 15 less than December going from 43.8 to 28.8. December so far....51.6 January average.....32.6 this month is the most unseasonable since records have been kept...1856-57 had an eighteen degree drop from Dec to Jan but Jan 1857 was the coldest on record... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanksfan Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 It is a great pattern , it does not mean it will produce . But to see such a major flip like this in the means after this December as Chris pointed out you at least have a chance to see one of the greatest Dec to Jan reversals . How that for east based . Sorry , could not resist . Yea so true. The upcoming pattern will be very ripe for snow potential, yet weather can be very unpredictable. At the very least we'll have the foundation laid out before us to give us a chance for a KU event. Something we can only dream of in December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 With numerous extremes witnessed already who knows just how crazy things may become when everything flips. Was December (or November) only the beginning of the insanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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