wthrmn654 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Based on nws standards a trace counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Central Park already has had snow Measured Snow only! When did CPK measure any snow this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Measured Snow only! When did CPK measure any snow this season? you must of been in your cage, central Park recorded snow in late December if I recall correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 If you're going post about first snowfall and records, first check to see if there's actually been any snowfall yet.... https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.weather.gov/media/okx/Climate/CentralPark/monthlyseasonalsnowfall.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwismJGejKXKAhWJcD4KHYgPBCEQFggcMAE&usg=AFQjCNGKZz44hhHLh7OyUrdsOX1OyLjZPA&sig2=lMBWGH1Bv6l64xZFkJiYMQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntenseBlizzard2014 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 you must of been in your cage, central Park recorded snow in late December if I recall correctlyIt was only a trace though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Trace counts as snowfall so therefore,we can't possibly break any records for first snowfall. Now there's probably sone record about measurable snowfall with a specific#. But still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntenseBlizzard2014 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Trace counts as snowfall so therefore,we can't possibly break any records for first snowfall. Now there's probably sone record about measurable snowfall with a specific#. But stillAs for the latest first 1" of snowfall, we are going to break a record soon if all of the potential snowfall events end up failing in the next 2 weeks or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 every winter since 9/10 has been upper echelon in some way around here. either warm or snowy Yeah, even since 2000-2001. The defining characteristics of winters since then have been either extremes of snow or warmth. Some years the warmth runs the table and others snow. And years like 05-06 were a mixture of record warmth and record snow. Extremes seem to be the new normal around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Yeah, even since 2000-2001. The defining characteristics of winters since then have been either extremes of snow or warmth. Some years the warmth runs the table and others snow. And years like 05-06 were a mixture of record warmth and record snow. Extremes seem to be the new normal around here. 2008-2009 was pretty much normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Well two separate records are maintained for TRACE and MEASURED. The record you refer to expired Jan. 06 and we did not break it. I never heard of a Trace and a Measurable Amt. referred to as the same thing. Maybe this will be moot in another 12 hours anyway. But good news for all of us, the 12Z GFSx says the next 8 days will average 2-3 degs. below normal. But of course I was warned not to use the GFSx LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Well two separate records are maintained for TRACE and MEASURED. The record you refer to expired Jan. 06 and we did not break it. I never heard of a Trace and a Measurable Amt. referred to as the same thing. Maybe this will be moot in another 12 hours anyway. But good news for all of us, the 12Z GFSx says the next 8 days will average 2-3 degs. below normal. But of course I was warned not to use the GFSx LOL Just so there's no confusion, measurable snow is 0.1" or more. A trace of snow is anything less than 0.1" (non-accumulating snow). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 2008-2009 was pretty much normal. That was one of the winters between extremes of high or low snowfall and warmth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 The extremes have been nuts lately and won't end anytime soon. If you wanna talk extremes outside our area then how about the central pacific hurricane that's nearing the equator. Talk about anomalous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 The extremes have been nuts lately and won't end anytime soon. If you wanna talk extremes outside our area then how about the central pacific hurricane that's nearing the equator. Talk about anomalous. Thanks for the heads up did no know about that!!! Doing some research now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Some great shots from the snow squall line at Penn State. Judging from where buildings are, visibility had to be less than a few hundred feet at the peak of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Another thing to watch: ZCZC MIATWOAT ALLTTAA00 KNHC DDHHMMSPECIAL TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOKNWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL105 PM EST TUE JAN 12 2016For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:1. Cloudiness and thunderstorms have become a little more concentratedand organized near the center of a non-tropical low pressure systemcentered about 1100 miles southwest of the Azores. The low isproducing winds to near 60 mph over the southern and easternportions of its circulation. Although environmental conditions areonly marginally conducive for development, this system could becomea subtropical or tropical storm within the next day or so. Thecyclone is expected to move eastward to northeastward over theeastern subtropical Atlantic over the next couple of days.Regardless of subtropical or tropical cyclone formation, this systemis expected to produce hazardous marine conditions over portions ofthe eastern Atlantic for the next few days. For additionalinformation, see High Seas Forecasts issued by the National WeatherService and Meteo France. The next Special Tropical Weather Outlookon this system will be issued by 2 PM EST Wednesday.* Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...50 percent* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...50 percentHigh Seas Forecasts issued by the National Weather Service can befound under AWIPS header NFDHSFAT1, WMO header FZNT01 KWBC, and onthe Web at http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/shtml/NFDHSFAT1.shtml.High Seas Forecasts issued by Meteo France can be found under WMOheader FQNT50 LFPW.Forecaster Paschhttp://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Look at what's sitting right behind the initial storm if that can hurry up and get out of the way so that heights can rebuild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Trends thus far this season like to hang closer to the coast or inland, and the 17/18th system looks very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Friends in Lancaster and Harrisburg reported vis down to a few hundred feet and occasional thunder and lightning. Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynwx99 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Friends in Lancaster and Harrisburg reported vis down to a few hundred feet and occasional thunder and lightning. Fingers crossed. What do you think about the 17-18th storm? It looks more amped every run on the GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Its going to be pretty wicked once the front moves through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 What do you think about the 17-18th storm? It looks more amped every run on the GFS. I'll be updating my thoughts when the 00z runs come in tonight. I like it, but the first wave pushes the baroclinicity too far east. We'll see though. I like the trends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hailstorm Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Just upgraded the chances of snowman's winter forecast to be correct from 10% to 40%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 1st jebwalk of the season complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Blew it in the city and Long Island again. I think it's time to step back for a bit. This has up to this point been the worst winter of my life (weather wise) best we have done so far was a slight coating of sleet with temps above freezing. If this ends up being a very low snow (less then 5") I will never bebate the power of a super El Niño again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 1st jebwalk of the season complete.That's swell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 That's swell It is. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Blew it in the city and Long Island again. I think it's time to step back for a bit. This has up to this point been the worst winter of my life (weather wise) best we have done so far was a slight coating of sleet with temps above freezing. If this ends up being a very low snow (less then 5") I will never bebate the power of a super El Niño again The funny thing is the pattern hasn't been that bad now since about 12/28 or so but we just haven't lucked into anything. The PAC jet is likely the biggest problem now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Blew it in the city and Long Island again. I think it's time to step back for a bit. This has up to this point been the worst winter of my life (weather wise) best we have done so far was a slight coating of sleet with temps above freezing. If this ends up being a very low snow (less then 5") I will never bebate the power of a super El Niño again When we had to use the AC on Xmas and there was a tomato plant growing in my backyard, I pretty much expected the winter to go down like this. Some here laid out reasoned arguments why it would turn cold and we would have blocking, but a few consistently contradicted them, at least one or two was a pro. Further, the no-nonsense types in the met business were still calling for a mild finish to winter. Just two days ago I read an article by an atmospheric scientist who also predicted it would remain mild in our parts. Also, we just had two above normal snowfall winters in a row. Nothing is given, but how likely was it that we would see that 3 years running? Stinker winters happen, and on a regular basis. Let's get it over with and hope it isn't a multi year trend. Hope that we have a turnaround, but will be shocked to see much the rest of this year in terms of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamplover56 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 When we had to use the AC on Xmas and there was a tomato plant growing in my backyard, I pretty much expected the winter to go down like this. Some here laid out reasoned arguments why it would turn cold and we would have blocking, but a few consistently contradicted them, at least one or two was a pro. Further, the no-nonsense types in the met business were still calling for a mild finish to winter. Just two days ago I read an article by an atmospheric scientist who also predicted it would remain mild in our parts. Also, we just had two above normal snowfall winters in a row. Nothing is given, but how likely was it that we would see that 3 years running? Stinker winters happen, and on a regular basis. Let's get it over with and hope it isn't a multi year trend. Hope that we have a turnaround, but will be shocked to see much the rest of this year in terms of snow. We have a good 75 days left to see accumulating snow. Don't know how you can declare winter dead when almost all of this sub forum received more than 50" plus from this point last winter. Smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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