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dmillz25

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Come now Unc, you and I have been around these parts a long time.....we've seen these kinda winters, hand over your heart what do you really think will happen this year?

I think from late January to early April yield at east 20" of snow...21" was my call when this season started...these are the recent el nino winters with snowfall up to January 15th and snowfall after that...

season...Jan 15th...After...total

1963-64......24.0"......20.7"......44.7"

1965-66.........T.........21.4"......21.4"

1968-69........8.0"......22.2"......30.2"

1969-70......11.7"......13.9"......25.6"

1972-73.........T...........2.8"........2.8"

1976-77......15.5"........9.0"......24.5"

1977-78........5.6"......45.1"......50.7"

1979-80........5.5"........7.3"......12.8"

1982-83........4.0"......23.2"......27.2"

1986-87........1.1"......22.0"......23.1"

1987-88......14.9"........4.2"......19.1"

1991-92........0.7"......11.9"......12.6"

1992-93........1.9"......22.6"......24.5"

1994-95........0.2"......11.6"......11.8"

1997-98.........T...........5.5"........5.5"

2002-03......12.6"......36.7"......49.3"

2004-05........3.0"......38.0"......41.0"

2006-07..........T........12.4"......12.4"

2009-10......13.2"......38.2"......51.4"

2014-15........3.2"......47.1"......50.3"

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It's bad when you have to post a 282hr ensemble scraper. Jeez.

and you forgot to mention it is completely useless...........anyhing past 5 days in this pattern is useless IMO......models have a difficult time in this type of setup - even the favorable major indices are misleading if the players end up in the wrong positions at the wrong time

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/ao_index_ensm.shtml

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Poor timing on the GFS prevented a better outcome, late phase causes a big blow up once past us

gfs_z500_vort_us_28.png

gfs_mslp_pcpn_frzn_neus_29.png

its a start. Hopefully this phases a bit earlier and just a tad more west and we have a storm on our hands. The models have sucked lately so you never know but I'm rooting for it of course as is everyone else on here. We really need a monster storm. Can anyone tell me if this is a fast mover or there's some blocking involved?
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December 31st, first if any hints about January 13... Comparing all previous models for Wednesday the 13, it would show up,as of January, on the 12z,and18z runs,but would vanish on 00z,and 06z... But starting today, 06z and 12z show it.

Just interesting observation.

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