psv88 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I've lived here now nearly 6 years (and in Philly for 2 years before that), but is it normal to have like 60-70% of the trees still full of leaves on Dec 5? No leaves out here in suffolk but my annuals are still blooming despite several nights in the 20s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 No leaves left in Dobbs Ferry. Must be an urban heat island thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 First cold morning of the month here with a 29 degree low.Strong high pressure giving us some cold nights despite 850s above 0C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 No leaves left in Dobbs Ferry. Must be an urban heat island thing. I agree. With the exception of just a few trees that have some leaves left, most trees here in southern Westchester have already lost their leaves. I do recall seeing Central Park about 2 weeks ago and there were still many leaves left even as most were already gone up here in Westchester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Grass is still green out here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Grass is still green out here Yep my front lawn looks like the middle of May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I've lived here now nearly 6 years (and in Philly for 2 years before that), but is it normal to have like 60-70% of the trees still full of leaves on Dec 5?Plenty of leaves left on campus up at Columbia. Out here at my house on the island no leaves at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Grass in green here in Hawley, PA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 with three weeks left till Christmas are we getting a white one this year?...2009 was the last year with snow on the ground Christmas morning...Snows that fell after Sunrise Christmas day are not listed...2002 had a trace Christmas morning before it changed to rain for some hours till the afternoon when it changed back to snow...Other years had a trace on the ground Christmas morning and are not listed either...with the ao/nao showing signs of going negative in the long run it could be wintry around Christmas...Last year was in the 60's Christmas day... year...depth Christmas morning... 2009.....2".....10.9" fell on the 19-20th...it rained Christmas night... 1998.....1".....2.0" fell 12/23-24... 1995.....4".....7.7" fell 12/19-20...0.5" 12/16...1.7" 12/14...1.5" 12/9...flurries Christmas day evening... 1983.....1".....1.0" fell 12/23-24...Coldest Christmas max. temp... 1966.....7".....7.1" fell 12/24-25 ending early Christmas morn....1.2" 12/21... 1963.....6".....6.6" fell 12/23-24 ended early Christmas eve morn....Snow shower in the evening...1.4" 12/19...2.3" 12/11... 1961.....6".....6.2" fell 12/23-24 ended early in the evening Christmas eve... 1960.....1".....15.3" fell 12/11-12...1.3" 12/19...trace Christmas eve... 1959.....4".....13.7" fell 12/21-22...foggy Christmas day... 1948.....5".....16.0" fell 12/19-20... 1947.....1".....2" fell 12/23...26" fell 12/26-27 post Christmas... 1945.....7".....8.3" fell 12/19-20...rain and milder Christmas night... 1930.....2".....3.9" fell 12/23-24... 1929.....1".....1.4" 12/23... 1919.....3".....2.8" 12/24-25 1917.....4".....9.6" 12/13-14... 1912...11".....11.4" 12/24... 1904.....4".....3.6" 12/24-26... 1896.....3".....6" 12/22-23... 1884.....3".....3"12/24... 1883...15".....7.5" 12/23-24...5" 12/25... 1880.....1".....1.4" 12/24... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 with three weeks left till Christmas are we getting a white one this year?...2009 was the last year with snow on the ground Christmas morning...Snows that fell after Sunrise Christmas day are not listed...2002 had a trace Christmas morning before it changed to rain for some hours till the afternoon when it changed back to snow...Other years had a trace on the ground Christmas morning and are not listed either...with the ao/nao showing signs of going negative in the long run it could be wintry around Christmas...Last year was in the 60's Christmas day... year...depth Christmas morning... 2009.....2".....10.9" fell on the 19-20th...it rained Christmas night... 1998.....1".....2.0" fell 12/23-24... 1995.....4".....7.7" fell 12/19-20...0.5" 12/16...1.7" 12/14...1.5" 12/9...flurries Christmas day evening... 1983.....1".....1.0" fell 12/23-24...Coldest Christmas max. temp... 1966.....7".....7.1" fell 12/24-25 ending early Christmas morn....1.2" 12/21... 1963.....6".....6.6" fell 12/23-24 ended early Christmas eve morn....Snow shower in the evening...1.4" 12/19...2.3" 12/11... 1961.....6".....6.2" fell 12/23-24 ended early in the evening Christmas eve... 1960.....1".....15.3" fell 12/11-12...1.3" 12/19...trace Christmas eve... 1959.....4".....13.7" fell 12/21-22...foggy Christmas day... 1948.....5".....16.0" fell 12/19-20... 1947.....1".....2" fell 12/23...26" fell 12/26-27 post Christmas... 1945.....7".....8.3" fell 12/19-20...rain and milder Christmas night... 1930.....2".....3.9" fell 12/23-24... 1929.....1".....1.4" 12/23... 1919.....3".....2.8" 12/24-25 1917.....4".....9.6" 12/13-14... 1912...11".....11.4" 12/24... 1904.....4".....3.6" 12/24-26... 1896.....3".....6" 12/22-23... 1884.....3".....3"12/24... 1883...15".....7.5" 12/23-24...5" 12/25... 1880.....1".....1.4" 12/24... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dWave Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 No leaves left in Dobbs Ferry. Must be an urban heat island thing. its true. I drive everyday BX to white plains and surrounding areas and its bare until around cross county pkwy and south, once you get into the BX its more bare than not but still noticeable leaves around. I see a few streets lined with green trees still, they have a canopy of tenament bldgs keeping it extra warm I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Same old pattern since last spring with the strong block over the Northeast forcing the STJ to our south. GrowPDeptNRCC.png 15.png When I was home Thanksgiving, the grass and trees looked pretty depressing. It's good to see all the new trees planted in Long Beach, but none of them have any leaves on them!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Strong high pressure giving us some cold nights despite 850s above 0C. Crazy that I had my first night in the 20s in Austin before most of you. Last Monday morning (Monday before Thanksgiving), the lows were 27-29 in much of town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Heh, just saw this. SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENTNATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY324 PM EST SAT DEC 5 2015NYZ079-081-061300-NORTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-SOUTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-324 PM EST SAT DEC 5 2015...HEAVY FROST...FOG AND ICY CONDITIONS POSSIBLE LATE TONIGHT INTOEARLY SUNDAY MORNING...CLEAR SKIES AND CALM WINDS OVERNIGHT WILL CAUSE TEMPERATURES TOFALL WELL BELOW FREEZING WITH SOME AREAS DROPPING INTO THE MID20S. A HEAVY FROST IS LIKELY.IN ADDITION...PATCHY DENSE GROUND FOG IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOPAFTER MIDNIGHT. THIS COMBINATION OF BELOW FREEZING TEMPERATURES,FOG AND A HEAVY FROST CAN LEAD TO SLIPPERY CONDITIONS TO DEVELOPON PAVED SURFACES.THESE CONDITIONS ARE CURRENTLY EXPECTED FOR THE AREAS IN AND AROUNDTHE PINE BARRENS FROM CALVERTON TO WESTHAMPTON BEACH AFTERMIDNIGHT THROUGH EARLY SUNDAY MORNING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Yep my front lawn looks like the middle of May The grass all through Battery Park City looks exactly the same, as well. Just crazy. I think we've gotten down to 35 here, that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Tomorrow we go full 10 inches of precipitation below average for the year so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailMan06 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Tomorrow we go full 10 inches of precipitation below average for the year so far.In a different perspective that's nearly 3 months' worth of rain that we didn't get. It's the cold season so it's nothing to worry about (unless you're a certain CT poster in the NE subforum). Knowing that nature likes to balance out we'll likely have a washout sometime in the medium term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 In a different perspective that's nearly 3 months' worth of rain that we didn't get. It's the cold season so it's nothing to worry about (unless you're a certain CT poster in the NE subforum). Knowing that nature likes to balance out we'll likely have a washout sometime in the medium term. Eventually that sub trop jet is going to fire a monster noreaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Eventually that sub trop jet is going to fire a monster noreaster Cleaned the gutters out today. Bring it on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I've lived here now nearly 6 years (and in Philly for 2 years before that), but is it normal to have like 60-70% of the trees still full of leaves on Dec 5? I remember late December 2011 (between Christmas and New Years) I went to the tree in the city and the trees that surround the skating rink had legit green leaves on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 The grass all through Battery Park City looks exactly the same, as well. Just crazy. I think we've gotten down to 35 here, that's it. I've had a few frosts since October in my part of Queens. This morning in fact was a nice, heavy frost. Obviously Manhattan won't experience that under these conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH L.I Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Using Accuweather 30 day outlook and other tools, December will be warmest ever. Jan. does not look good either. Feb. will have to be the 'safety valve' that prevents the warmest winter on record from happening. Accuweather takes their 30 day forecast from the OP GFS and the CFS2..your aware of that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Accuweather takes their 30 day forecast from the OP GFS and the CFS2..your aware of that right? Those tools have gotten the motif right, if not the specific temps. I would bet money that December finishes about +6 above normal----but would not bet on the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH L.I Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 with three weeks left till Christmas are we getting a white one this year?...2009 was the last year with snow on the ground Christmas morning...Snows that fell after Sunrise Christmas day are not listed...2002 had a trace Christmas morning before it changed to rain for some hours till the afternoon when it changed back to snow...Other years had a trace on the ground Christmas morning and are not listed either...with the ao/nao showing signs of going negative in the long run it could be wintry around Christmas...Last year was in the 60's Christmas day... year...depth Christmas morning... 2009.....2".....10.9" fell on the 19-20th...it rained Christmas night... 1998.....1".....2.0" fell 12/23-24... 1995.....4".....7.7" fell 12/19-20...0.5" 12/16...1.7" 12/14...1.5" 12/9...flurries Christmas day evening... 1983.....1".....1.0" fell 12/23-24...Coldest Christmas max. temp... 1966.....7".....7.1" fell 12/24-25 ending early Christmas morn....1.2" 12/21... 1963.....6".....6.6" fell 12/23-24 ended early Christmas eve morn....Snow shower in the evening...1.4" 12/19...2.3" 12/11... 1961.....6".....6.2" fell 12/23-24 ended early in the evening Christmas eve... 1960.....1".....15.3" fell 12/11-12...1.3" 12/19...trace Christmas eve... 1959.....4".....13.7" fell 12/21-22...foggy Christmas day... 1948.....5".....16.0" fell 12/19-20... 1947.....1".....2" fell 12/23...26" fell 12/26-27 post Christmas... 1945.....7".....8.3" fell 12/19-20...rain and milder Christmas night... 1930.....2".....3.9" fell 12/23-24... 1929.....1".....1.4" 12/23... 1919.....3".....2.8" 12/24-25 1917.....4".....9.6" 12/13-14... 1912...11".....11.4" 12/24... 1904.....4".....3.6" 12/24-26... 1896.....3".....6" 12/22-23... 1884.....3".....3"12/24... 1883...15".....7.5" 12/23-24...5" 12/25... 1880.....1".....1.4" 12/24... I include Christmas day and night.and any snow, or flurries even Christmas eve.hey if it snows on Christmas, it's white lol..so I include 1962,1969,1975,1976,,1993,2002,and 2013(dusting on Christmas eve) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I would be thinking about finding a bottle of SPF 50+degs. (lol, ) neatly covered in X-Mas wrapping paper this year. Think ---- Holiday Week 1982 but pray for a sudden stratospheric warming event in the wake of Santa's sled! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easternsnowman Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I would be thinking about finding a bottle of SPF 50+degs. (lol, ) neatly covered in X-Mas wrapping paper this year. Think ---- Holiday Week 1982 but pray for a sudden stratospheric warming event in the wake of Santa's sled! 6 above normal at your location probably means no snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Good bet we see 60 degree temps next weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drz1111 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Best stretch of winter weather I can remember! Like we moved to SF. Cant remember such a persistent stretch of bone dry, warm, rained-out Pacific air masses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Best stretch of winter weather I can remember! Like we moved to SF. Cant remember such a persistent stretch of bone dry, warm, rained-out Pacific air masses.Incredibly boring but sure it's been nice and this is clearly fall, not winter, weather.I think we'll see mid to upper 60s next weekend. Classic setup for overperforming warmth, even a 70F reading wouldn't surprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan76 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Saw a yellow jack out today SMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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