Ginx snewx Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 If I add up my snowiest months ever, I'd have an average Gaspe Peninsula winter...lol: January 2011 56.2" February 2015 46.7" March 1993 34.6" April 1997 28" (none recorded May-Sep since 1985) October 2011 12.6" November 1986 16.6" December 1996 26.1" Grant total of 220.8" I went for the total snow cold combo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 If I add up my snowiest months ever, I'd have an average Gaspe Peninsula winter...lol: January 2011 56.2" February 2015 46.7" March 1993 34.6" April 1997 28" (none recorded May-Sep since 1985) October 2011 12.6" November 1986 16.6" December 1996 26.1" Grant total of 220.8" For fun I totaled the best months up here at the mountain and came up with 575", haha. That's a fun game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 June 1953 July 1989 May 1995 July 1995 July 1997 May 1998 June 1998 August 2000 May 2002 June 2002 July 2006 June 2008 July 2008 August 2008 June 2010 June 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Name your ideal season...here is mine: October 2011 November 1986 December 2007 (Honorable Mention: December 1970) January 1996 (Honorable Mention: January 2011) February 2015 (Honorable Mention: February 1978, 1969) March 1993 April 1997 (Honorable mention: April 1982, 1996) May 1976 ***All Time Great: February 2015 Smoke 'em if 'ya got 'em... What was May 1976? I'll take May 1977 I still preferred Feb 1978 over 2015 but I understand those that don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayjawintastawm Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Kind of amazed Feb 1978 wasn't more frequently mentioned for sheer impact. Though part of that was due to a rough January also. If 30-day periods (not calendar months) were eligible, I'd ballpark 1/15/78-2/14/78. Same deal 8/15/54-9/14-54 with Carol and Edna. My parents still talk about that summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Do we give April 1997 the not over March 31 1997? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Kind of amazed Feb 1978 wasn't more frequently mentioned for sheer impact. Though part of that was due to a rough January also. If 30-day periods (not calendar months) were eligible, I'd ballpark 1/15/78-2/14/78. Same deal 8/15/54-9/14-54 with Carol and Edna. My parents still talk about that summer. Feb '78 had the epic storm but the rest of the month was literally zippo. So I can understand picking a month like 2015 over it given that 2015 had more than twice as much snow and was colder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Do we give April 1997 the not over March 31 1997? More than half of the snow fell after midnight...so I'd give it to April...but Mar '97 was actually a pretty decent month even before the blizzard. Though, it definitely doesn't stack up to 1993 in central MA if you like snow and snowpack...or 2001. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ma blizzard Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 in my lifetime: Oct 2011 Nov 2002 Dec 2007 Jan 2011 (2004 is close though) Feb 2015 March 2001 April 1997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ma blizzard Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Sep -- 1938 Oct -- 2011 Nov -- 1921 Dec -- 2007 Jan -- 1994 Feb -- 1969 Mar -- 2001 Apr -- 1933 May -- 1966 Jun -- 1816 Jul -- 1911 Aug -- 1975 how much snow did your area get in the late Nov 1921 storm? I've always been really interested in that storm. From what I've read, it seems like it was similar (maybe a little worse?) to the Dec 08 ice storm in severity but had a greater areal extent in SNE. http://docs.lib.noaa.gov/rescue/mwr/049/mwr-049-11-0612a.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Feb '78 had the epic storm but the rest of the month was literally zippo. So I can understand picking a month like 2015 over it given that 2015 had more than twice as much snow and was colder. 2015 also much more fresh in the memory bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 More than half of the snow fell after midnight...so I'd give it to April...but Mar '97 was actually a pretty decent month even before the blizzard. Though, it definitely doesn't stack up to 1993 in central MA if you like snow and snowpack...or 2001. I figured there was no way March 2001 could be beaten, but that must've been a bit further north for the best stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 2015 also much more fresh in the memory bank.It was meh here. Cold and good snow but not epicosity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 It was meh here. Cold and good snow but not epicosity. Yeah if it was meh where you were, you don't need me to tell you how it was up here. February 2011 and February 2008 were much better than 2015 in NNE....not even in the same league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I figured there was no way March 2001 could be beaten, but that must've been a bit further north for the best stuff. Mar '93 was like 4 feet of snow in central MA with good cold. Mar '01 is very close though...I think you could go either way on them. Up near the NH border in central MA, I'd say Mar '01 wins objectively in every category except maybe temps which were almost dead even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I still can't believe the snowpack from March 2001 in New Ipswich NH. Incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 how much snow did your area get in the late Nov 1921 storm? I've always been really interested in that storm. From what I've read, it seems like it was similar (maybe a little worse?) to the Dec 08 ice storm in severity but had a greater areal extent in SNE. http://docs.lib.noaa.gov/rescue/mwr/049/mwr-049-11-0612a.pdf Heavy, heavy snow http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/orders/IPS/IPS-6FE3DEC8-7EF8-4A53-874D-09741EE70FB2.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I still can't believe the snowpack from March 2001 in New Ipswich NH. Incredible.Still prob the highest I have seen around here since moving to this area. I didn't measure or anything and my memories of storms that year suck. But I recall the depths and snow banks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 If you love torches, I think my list would be: Nov 2011 Dec 1923 Jan 1913 Feb 1984 Mar 2012 or 1945 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnionWeatherWx Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 May 2015 September 2015 July 2010 July 2011 February 2006 December 2010 January 2011 March 2003 March 1993 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 If you love torches, I think my list would be: Nov 2011 Dec 1923 Jan 1913 Feb 1984 Mar 2012 or 1945 Dec 1923 was worse than Dec 2006? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 If you love torches, I think my list would be: Nov 2011 I think November 2015 may upset 2011...up here we are a good 2-3F warmer in the means than 2011 was to-date. Average temperatures through 11/22: BTV 2011...43.4F 2015...46.8F Mansfield 2011...34.2F 2015...36.8F ORH 2011...46.5F 2015...47.3F You guys down there are much closer to 2011, but still through the first 3 weeks 2015 is winning. 2011 also had a 10" warning criteria event around Thanksgiving, so if nothing else changes then November 2015 will be the new benchmark, haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I think November 2015 may upset 2011...up here we are a good 2-3F warmer in the means than 2011 was to-date. Average temperatures through 11/22: BTV 2011...43.4F 2015...46.8F Mansfield 2011...34.2F 2015...36.8F ORH 2011...46.5F 2015...47.3F You guys down there are much closer to 2011, but still through the first 3 weeks 2015 is winning. 2011 also had a 10" warning criteria event around Thanksgiving, so if nothing else changes then November 2015 will be the new benchmark, haha. I don't think we're going to beat 2011....using raw temps is deceiving anyway because like a +8 to +10 day in the last week of the month will still bring the average down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I still can't believe the snowpack from March 2001 in New Ipswich NH. Incredible. I remember from the Albany TV stations that a spotter in Readsboro, VT (Southern VT) had a 76" snow depth in March 2001. The Jay Peak base Co-Op at 1,800ft apparently had a 93" snow depth by the end of that month. Two Co-Ops around where I live now maxed out in the low 50s for snowpack, so that's probably where I'd be. Wish I lived through that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Dec 1923 was worse than Dec 2006? Yes...at least in our area for warmth...but 1923 had a decent snow event, so if you factor in snow, then 2006 was worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I don't think we're going to beat 2011....using raw temps is deceiving anyway because like a +8 to +10 day in the last week of the month will still bring the average down. Ahhh, I wasn't sure what the best metric was. Even those temps that are through 11/22? Both of those temps are through the 22nd, so its an even comparison. I just went to the NOWData and punched in average temperature for the month through 11/22/2015 and 11/22/2011. I would assume the average temperature lowered from that value in 2011 as well? I think we've got a shot up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Ahhh, I wasn't sure what the best metric was. Even those temps that are through 11/22? Both of those temps are through the 22nd, so its an even comparison. Yeah you are right...so it is an even comparison. At first I thought you were comparing temps through 11/22 in 2015 to the monthly averages in previous years. But given the forecast i don't think we'll make it anyway. We have a couple cooler shots coming in before the month is over sandwiched between a 2 day torch. It's an uphill battle. Last 6 days of 2011 here had +9, +16, +11, +21, +21, and +16 to close the month. That will be almost impossible to match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Yeah you are right...so it is an even comparison. At first I thought you were comparing temps through 11/22 in 2015 to the monthly averages in previous years. But given the forecast i don't think we'll make it anyway. We have a couple cooler shots coming in before the month is over sandwiched between a 2 day torch. It's an uphill battle. Last 6 days of 2011 here had +9, +16, +11, +21, +21, and +16 to close the month. That will be almost impossible to match. Ahh so the torch that month was at the end of the month, I see that now. You definitely won't then at ORH. I think we've got a shot at MMNV1 and BTV. Right now we've got a commanding 2-3F lead in the means on 2011. But I'm not sure how quickly that could be erased, what the statistics of it are. It just seems like a lot to make up in the final week of the month, but that's a solid torch at the end of Novie 2011. I think we had some minimum temps of like 45F during that at the mountain with insane inversions. Edit: Looking at it now, the average temperature at MMNV1 was 34.2F on 11/22/11, and at the end of the month the average temperature was also 34.2F. So the final week of that month did absolutely nothing to the mean temperature. This year we are bound to drop quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Ahh so the torch that month was at the end of the month, I see that now. You definitely won't then at ORH. I think we've got a shot at MMNV1 and BTV. Right now we've got a commanding 2-3F lead in the means on 2011. But I'm not sure how quickly that could be erased, what the statistics of it are. It just seems like a lot to make up in the final week of the month, but that's a solid torch at the end of Novie 2011. I think we had some minimum temps of like 45F during that at the mountain with insane inversions. Edit: Looking at it now, the average temperature at MMNV1 was 34.2F on 11/22/11, and at the end of the month the average temperature was also 34.2F. So the final week of that month did absolutely nothing to the mean temperature. This year we are bound to drop quite a bit. You'll have a much better chance there of beating 2011...but the gap is definitely going to close quickly at the end. It'll just depend if you have a big enough lead to hold on before the month runs out. A couple of those final days were like +20 up there and the Euro shows a pretty good cold shot...so if you get like a -10 day in there, that is going to shave off a full degree on the monthly mean vs 2011...two days in a row like that and you shave 2F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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