michsnowfreak Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Saturday looks interesting. A burst of snow followed by a rapid temp drop well below freezing. Timing of the snow and temp drop will be the deciding factor for accumulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Same here. When I was growing up in the 90s, I remember a couple snowy winters, but nothing like that last 12 years or so. The majority of winters here in the last 15 even have been snowier than normal. Average snowfall is running at 56.5" right now; not including this winter ending. More latent heat in the atmosphere will mean more water vapor and thus more clouds in the atmosphere. Have seen some very wet summers here in the last decade as well to show for it. As Jonger said...temps in this region are just noise. Pattern is what determine snow, & we have been in a good pattern way more often than not.It's been discussed many many times on here but my god winters that I grew up with in the '90s aren't even on the same playing field as they are today. I take it we are close in age (32 here). I may be super into weather stats, but just going by memory alone is even more telling. I have a very vivid memory (for most things not just weather ) and it truly is no comparison. To the point of what I expected out of '90s winters and what I expect today is completely different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 As Jonger said...temps in this region are just noise. Pattern is what determine snow, & we have been in a good pattern way more often than not. It's been discussed many many times on here but my god winters that I grew up with in the '90s aren't even on the same playing field as they are today. I take it we are close in age (32 here). I may be super into weather stats, but just going by memory alone is even more telling. I have a very vivid memory (for most things not just weather ) and it truly is no comparison. To the point of what I expected out of '90s winters and what I expect today is completely different. I turned 34 last month. Yeah the 90s were different. 95-96 was the most memorable. I think like 60" fell that winter. I didn't start keeping stats until early 1998. One thing that is different since the early 2000s and before, is that I remember more colder lows; like near -20° and under. It has been a really long time since it has been that cold. You would think with more days of snow cover that wouldn't have changed all that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 totals aside, i'll take 2'+ in one event over 60" of nickle and dime garbage every day To be fair this isn't our season. A 50" winter here is 3 approximately 8-10", and then the rest coming in bits. This season was an anomaly, usually there are a couple big dogs that close school for a few days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCNYILWX Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I turned 34 last month. Yeah the 90s were different. 95-96 was the most memorable. I think like 60" fell that winter. I didn't start keeping stats until early 1998. One thing that is different since the early 2000s and before, is that I remember more colder lows; like near -20° and under. It has been a really long time since it has been that cold. You would think with more days of snow cover that wouldn't have changed all that much. You didn't have any lows near -20 in January 2009 and in January 2014? UGN dipped to -19 on 1/16/09 and -16 on 1/6/14, with 4 consecutive lows in the mid minus teens from 1/6 to 1/9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 You didn't have any lows near -20 in January 2009 and in January 2014? UGN dipped to -19 on 1/16/09 and -16 on 1/6/14, with 4 consecutive lows in the mid minus teens from 1/6 to 1/9. -16° in January of 2014. I did hit -19° on January 16, 2009. So that was the last time it was near -20°. I just remember more far below zero lows during the 90s where it was cold enough to cancel classes. I remember one winter, I had 3 days in a row where school was canceled because of the extreme cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 -16° in January of 2014. I did hit -19° on January 16, 2009. So that was the last time it was near -20°. I just remember more far below zero lows during the 90s where it was cold enough to cancel classes. I remember one winter, I had 3 days in a row where school was canceled because of the extreme cold. Either 1994 or 1996 I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Either 1994 or 1996 I'm sure. Sounds about right. I remember listening to the weather forecasts and hearing wind chill readings of -50° to -60°. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFF Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 totals aside, i'll take 2'+ in one event over 60" of nickle and dime garbage every day I'll take 2'+ in one event plus 60" of nickle and dime garbage every day..... My recipe of a good, profitable winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtrackertf Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Either 1994 or 1996 I'm sure. I remember the January 1994 cold outbreak because our pipes froze even in the city of Detroit. I was just a kid, but that type of thing never happens and has never happened since to anyone I know of around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathergy Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I remember the January 1994 cold outbreak because our pipes froze even in the city of Detroit. I was just a kid, but that type of thing never happens and has never happened since to anyone I know of around here.When we lived in a trailer, we had to keep all the faucets dripping water in the winter so they didn't freeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 CLE is certainly snowier than it was in the 1970s or 1980s, but snowfall appeared to reach a peak in the late 90s and early 2000s here. The past 10 years averaged about 63" at CLE. Between 1998/99 and 2008/2009 the average was 78". The last 5 years only averaged about 54" at CLE, so locally the last 5 years haven't been that snowy compared to the prior 40 years. Toledo had an average of 40.73" in those years (99-09). Cleveland got much more inches above their normal than Toledo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 What the ...this looks as cold or colder then current blast.. Put spring on hold for another week or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 What the ...this looks as cold or colder then current blast.. Put spring on hold for another week or so. Yeah, the models may have been wrong about the brutal Sunday around here, but they were right about the cold pattern. The latest euro is just awful. After 70 degrees tomorrow, the euro has 40s every day through Saturday, one warm day next Sunday, then back to cold. It has removed the modest mid-week mild surge for us and delayed the weekend warmup. The GFS is similar. It looks even worse for folks farther east and northeast. I was considering removing the tarps and leaf bags from a couple non-hardy hummingbird plants tomorrow morning, but if it's going to be consisently cold through mid month I may as well keep them covered. Just like in 2007, The Masters golf tournament could be a pretty cold one for a couple days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 insane 500mb ridge over greenland on the gfs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Models were a day off for the cold Sunday. 35° for the high at midnight. EURO is cold all around unless you're in the Ohio Valley/south of I-70. Still at times the cold pushed down into KY. Get near 50° on Wednesday evening and that it's for mild air here. Next 10 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof96 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 insane 500mb ridge over greenland on the gfs 12z EPS biting to some extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Models were a day off for the cold Sunday. 35° for the high at midnight. EURO is cold all around unless you're in the Ohio Valley/south of I-70. Still at times the cold pushed down into KY. Get near 50° on Wednesday evening and that it's for mild air here. Next 10 days. Bo continues to get destroyed. Highest snow depth of the season in mid-April??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 OMG...look at that snow. It will be interesting seeing temps in Greenland around that time. We need a ridge like that over Saukville..all summer long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 0z GFS through Saturday night. One days of 50s next Tuesday here, until the 17th. If that's the case, there is going to be a huge negative departure for the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Long range looks good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Bo continues to get destroyed. Highest snow depth of the season in mid-April??? ha!...... 31st- 4th totaled 28" (MQT 23") .....And a crazy low of -3 here and...As of 5am ET, the low temperature at NWS Marquette is -6F. This is the second lowest temperature this late in the "cold" season over the past 50 years. Here comes the next round tonight... and Thur night/Friday looks pretty Wintry too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Long range looks good It's gotta flip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osubrett2 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Just gotta get through Saturday and then it's looking 10x better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 yep, cool/damp stretch followed by moderation not too bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewers Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 The weekend moderation is going to be brief. Much of next week probably ends up below normal. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Long range looks good Looks like the troughing pattern ends in 10 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osubrett2 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Just gotta get through Saturday and then it's looking 10x better. I stand corrected. The GFS is troughy but not like the Euro/CMC as they keep unloading punches. This is getting old. Please end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClicheVortex2014 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 I stand corrected. The GFS is troughy but not like the Euro/CMC as they keep unloading punches. This is getting old. Please end. There's good agreement about a western trough around the 13th... at least we have something that looks credible to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Looking a Bo's snow posts makes me feel it's a lot earlier in the season than it is. Warm up on the 12z GFS is a little shaky, back to below normal towards the 19th/20th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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