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That pattern is not a torch for eastern Canada. If and when we do try to force a better +PNA..it's possible there might be money in the bank when it does happen. Definitely a screwy pattern heading through mid November.

 

It's actually a pretty cold pattern up there in E Canada. Assuming it sets up as modeled.

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American -based teleconnectors would support a record breaking warm spell but the operational (typically more dependable versions) refuse to bite that hard.  They keep opting for eastern heights that don't 'bulge' quite as high in latitude, as the robustness of the PNA/NAO phase states would allow. 

 

Interesting... 

 

The difference ... recent MOS products are as much as a 7 to 10 F above normal on a D6/7 time range - faaaairly certain those numbers begin with the operational version/grid values.

 

Those two-meters are impressively positive numbers in their own rite, given to the steepness of the autumnal climate drop.  I know that MOS in particular is climate dimmed more at the end then beginning.   I think it all smacks as potential out there, if perhaps not fully realized. 

 

either way, above normal first 10 days of Novie appears to well about median confidence at this point, particularly from NYC and points S..  If the ridge does avail of a stack +1 SD NAO, and a diving PNA more discerned, than the confidence pushes N.  A west wind 2-day stint some 20 F + highs wouldn't fit right into that spread.  Just not quite getting the operationals to bit fully... throwing junk reasons in the fray to just be uninterestingly above normal/banal. 

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November seems likely to be snow free in all if SNE. As warm a month of Nov as we've ever seen

That seems like a lot of hyperbole.  You think record November warmth it seems? 

 

The snow-free call is interesting...as all it takes is a trough around November 27th or something to deliver a couple inches...and there is no way no one can make that call right now.

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big heat, great look forward to it.

 

Both GEFS and EPS have a little cool down to normal or even slightly below in the Day 10-12 range, but then rebounds back up above normal for the end of the runs.  They've been fairly consistent in that going forward...a real warm first week of the month, then a few days of normal to slightly below around the 10th, before warming back up for mid-month.

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That seems like a lot of hyperbole.  You think record November warmth it seems? 

 

The snow-free call is interesting...as all it takes is a trough around November 27th or something to deliver a couple inches...and there is no way no one can make that call right now.

No snow in November is pretty much the norm down here. Lets do it.

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Both GEFS and EPS have a little cool down to normal or even slightly below in the Day 10-12 range, but then rebounds back up above normal for the end of the runs.  They've been fairly consistent in that going forward...a real warm first week of the month, then a few days of normal to slightly below around the 10th, before warming back up for mid-month.

Agree 100% its going to be torch from now until April.

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That seems like a lot of hyperbole.  You think record November warmth it seems? 

 

The snow-free call is interesting...as all it takes is a trough around November 27th or something to deliver a couple inches...and there is no way no one can make that call right now.

 

 

Of course nobody can make that call with any accuracy.

 

But he doesn't post without hyperbole.

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How's it any different than Gunx calling for snow and cold mid and late month?

well first off I said colder end of the month and possible snowstorm first week of Dec. Just wanted to get the facts out before you continue a non truth

 

 

Warm couple of weeks. some pretty big sigs end of Nov. first week of Dec turn to much colder possible snowstorm. Then turn to much milder mid Dec, Period to watch in Dec seems around Christmas for a big ticket interior snow storm.

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How's it any different than Gunx calling for snow and cold mid and late month?

 

Making a specific call for snow though (such as an entire snowless month), is an exercise in futility.  No one could possibly make that determination, because even if the month is +10, you could get that one day cold shot deliver a couple inches of overrunning or something before a warm front lifts back north. 

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Making a specific call for snow though (such as an entire snowless month), is an exercise in futility.  No one could possibly make that determination, because even if the month is +10, you could get that one day cold shot deliver a couple inches of overrunning or something before a warm front lifts back north. 

Please don't quote that lie. I never said that

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How's it any different than Gunx calling for snow and cold mid and late month?

 

It's not any different, although I also acknowledge that he didn't say cold and snow mid month, at all.

 

If you think the pattern will remain hostile to any chances for snow through November, then go ahead and say that. But don't pretend you know what Feb and March have in store, 'cause you don't.

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