HillsdaleMIWeather Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 Chinook, the 18Z ECMWF would work just as well as the 21Z GFS. (Which is a real thing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Pattern isn't bothering me yet. Been kind of nice getting some things done outside still. If it doesn't turn wintry around the 20th and if wintry weather is absent in the short term by then, then I'll have a few words to say. lol Thank goodness there was a little snow this month, and a lot of snow last month! I can top that. Pattern is bothering ME that much yet. I have been so busy moving into a new house that I spend the evenings working on that getting ready for christmas. Not to mention working til 530pm mon thru fri it's dark when I get out of work. A weekend November snowstorm was definitely a nice appetizer.Now all that said, christmas and beyond, I would be very agitated with this current pattern. I'm plenty prepared this won't be an excellent winter like most recent ones, but I need some winter lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I'd be cool with a pattern like this rolling right on into spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I'm bored of PR... I want some weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I'd be cool with a pattern like this rolling right on into spring.Meaning active and roller coaster? Or meaning torch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Meaning active and roller coaster? Or meaning torch? Both, anything that doesn't push the start of spring to May 1st like the last 2 winters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Both, anything that doesn't push the start of spring to May 1st like the last 2 winters. Agreed. I'll be ok as well with relatively warm / snowless winter after the last 3 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Agreed. I'll be ok as well with relatively warm / snowless winter after the last 3 seasons. Yes, especially the last 2 which were either cold or cold and snowy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Both, anything that doesn't push the start of spring to May 1st like the last 2 winters. Obviously with a good snowstorm already under our belt and a typical warm December, the rest of the winter is a lot of unknown, although consensus is that it will definitely trend colder. As for spring, Ninos are a mix, but there have been quite a few cold springs. Collectively you could not ask for a worse winter/spring than 1982-83. A redux (which already isnt happening, ie see Nov 21st) would absolutely set this board to crash. Winter was sick. 64F on Christmas. Through March 19th, DTW had accumulated just 9 inches of snow on the season, and had a grand total of 7 days with 1"+ snowcover (6 of the 7 days were 1", the other was 2"). Spring was ushered in with a significant snowstorm, then another snowstorm in mid-late April, and a cold, rainy May. I have a pic of my mom bringing me home from the hospital on May 10, 1983, and the trees (that were in the picture) were still bare, just budded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Alright fellas! None of you have the right to complain. I haven't seen a real snow flake yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_4184 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Alright fellas! None of you have the right to complain. I haven't seen a real snow flake yet. That should change later next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Obviously with a good snowstorm already under our belt and a typical warm December, the rest of the winter is a lot of unknown, although consensus is that it will definitely trend colder. As for spring, Ninos are a mix, but there have been quite a few cold springs. Collectively you could not ask for a worse winter/spring than 1982-83. A redux (which already isnt happening, ie see Nov 21st) would absolutely set this board to crash. Winter was sick. 64F on Christmas. Through March 19th, DTW had accumulated just 9 inches of snow on the season, and had a grand total of 7 days with 1"+ snowcover (6 of the 7 days were 1", the other was 2"). Spring was ushered in with a significant snowstorm, then another snowstorm in mid-late April, and a cold, rainy May. I have a pic of my mom bringing me home from the hospital on May 10, 1983, and the trees (that were in the picture) were still bare, just budded. I don't know if there is a consensus on it getting colder, until the +AO changes, any cold shots will be subdued. Even with the change to negative in the next few days, it only leads to modest cold shot that is really closer to normal than anything, Until our source region gets colder the cold shots aren't going to be great and will be transient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Just as long as I see some "real" LES action from Dec 27th thru Jan 2nd in Boyne City. I will be happy. Not going to complain after numerous awesome winters since 2003. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Alright fellas! None of you have the right to complain. I haven't seen a real snow flake yet. Still don't feel sorry for you! You got to see the greatest 24hr snowfall event last year that most of us can only dream about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Alright fellas! None of you have the right to complain. I haven't seen a real snow flake yet. Alright, I won't complain until you've had your first snowstorm (LES or synoptic)! One thing I did not expect was my allergies to start acting up. Wednesday and Thursday I had a stuffy head/congestion, today was a little better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_4184 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Still don't feel sorry for you! You got to see the greatest 24hr snowfall event last year that most of us can only dream about That is true, my area cant even come close to competing with some of those events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Obviously with a good snowstorm already under our belt and a typical warm December, the rest of the winter is a lot of unknown, although consensus is that it will definitely trend colder. As for spring, Ninos are a mix, but there have been quite a few cold springs. Collectively you could not ask for a worse winter/spring than 1982-83. A redux (which already isnt happening, ie see Nov 21st) would absolutely set this board to crash. Winter was sick. 64F on Christmas. Through March 19th, DTW had accumulated just 9 inches of snow on the season, and had a grand total of 7 days with 1"+ snowcover (6 of the 7 days were 1", the other was 2"). Spring was ushered in with a significant snowstorm, then another snowstorm in mid-late April, and a cold, rainy May. I have a pic of my mom bringing me home from the hospital on May 10, 1983, and the trees (that were in the picture) were still bare, just budded. Trees still bare in the beginning of May? That's normal here along the Lake Michigan lakeshore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I don't know if there is a consensus on it getting colder, until the +AO changes, any cold shots will be subdued. Even with the change to negative in the next few days, it only leads to modest cold shot that is really closer to normal than anything, Until our source region gets colder the cold shots aren't going to be great and will be transient.I meant colder than december has been. Not necessarily cold. December is our warmest winter month on average anyway, & the extremes for December warmth are more impressive than Jan or feb. I think it's pretty safe to say that there is consensus that it will get colder than highs in the 40s-50s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Trees still bare in the beginning of May? That's normal here along the Lake Michigan lakeshore! The last few years the trees tend to bloom the first week of May. But as said in 1983 that's pushing mid may with no leaves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I meant colder than december has been. Not necessarily cold. December is our warmest winter month on average anyway, & the extremes for December warmth are more impressive than Jan or feb. I think it's pretty safe to say that there is consensus that it will get colder than highs in the 40s-50s. Other than late next week, I don't see much until maybe after Christmas, and even that is at day 14-16, so we are throwing darts by that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Some of you sound like a bunch of old men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Just as long as I see some "real" LES action from Dec 27th thru Jan 2nd in Boyne City. I will be happy. Not going to complain after numerous awesome winters since 2003. Boyne will be open that week almost guaranteed. They will blow snow every night that drops below freezing and have people ski on slush if they have to. The 2 weeks after Christmas probably make or break profitability for the year. I'd simply fly to where the snow is and not worry about it if I only needed one week all winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbertfly Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 So I had a dozen or so mosquitos around my light in the garage this evening after the sunset...would be nice to get a cold blast and wipe out a chunk of these skeeters before next spring even hits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I mowed grass today! I have also seen some plants getting some new flower buds on them. It was hard for me to pull them up as I debated whether letting them go and seeing some new color/how long they could go...or just getting the work done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I took advantage of the extremely warm December weather to get in one last fishing jaunt of the year. I kept a few 'gills to eat. I also caught around 20 bass in an hour's time. I used my snowboard to put the fish on. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Lol, that's great IWX. Snow board can be used for something else! Really nice count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I took advantage of the extremely warm December weather to get in one last fishing jaunt of the year. I kept a few 'gills to eat. I also caught around 20 bass in an hour's time. I used my snowboard to put the fish on. lol 001.JPG Nice catch, some good eating there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveNay Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Sweating my donkey off today cutting up a tree that fell in a June storm this year. (I think the Fairdale tornado storm). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 No complaints here, today was lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I took advantage of the extremely warm December weather to get in one last fishing jaunt of the year. I kept a few 'gills to eat. I also caught around 20 bass in an hour's time. I used my snowboard to put the fish on. lol 001.JPG I use to fish all the time, I definitely miss it. So how come you only kept the gills? Bass is good eat'n too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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