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2015/16 Autumn/Winter Banter, Complaint, Whining Thread


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I can see not liking snow on the ground a really time if it tends to get dirty quick - living in the heart of a city or along a main thoroughfare. Snow cover is definitely more enjoyable to look at in semi rural to rural area, imo.

 

My favorite is when there is a big snow and then frequent lighter snows to keep it looking good.

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I really feel like this is an odd time for everyone to start panicking/melting down. While yes a wall to wall torch is always possible, the big reasons many expected a second half turn-around were the low over the N. Pac retrograding from the Gulf of Alaska to the Aleutians and due to a tendency for an AO flip during the second half of the winter. There are already signs of the low retrograding to the Aleutians to start January and all three ensembles and also some typical precursors to stratospheric warming events also showing up (Scandinavian ridge and Aleutian low) so I don't see any more reason to panic this week than last week. Yes, Christmas will be brown for all of us which may be causing some of the recent panic, but it should've been fairly well understood heading into December that we'd have to get really lucky and thread the needle for much to happen this month.

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I can see not liking snow on the ground a really time if it tends to get dirty quick - living in the heart of a city or along a main thoroughfare. Snow cover is definitely more enjoyable to look at in semi rural to rural area, imo.

 

My favorite is when there is a big snow and then frequent lighter snows to keep it looking good.

 

Lots of 40N - 42N guys making comments here. When you have experience in snow-pack regions, 44N - 50N, you stop thinking like this. When I was a kid, this stuff never mattered to me either.

 

Once you see a town with 50 inches of snow-pack, with mountains of snow piles, mushroomed roof-tops -- you start to get it. These same guys will probably reply to this and disagree.

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Really? What is the difference between 18 inches of fresh and 8 inches of old with 10 inches of fresh? Looks exactly the same.

One would make for an incredible/historic storm. The other one would make for just a good storm but something that is a dime a dozen around here, the 10" storm.

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One would make for an incredible/historic storm. The other one would make for just a good storm but something that is a dime a dozen around here, the 10" storm.

 

Better yet, how about 18 inches on top of the existing 8. lol

 

I'll never poopoo a bigger storm, but if I have a 24 inch snowpack, I wouldn't melt it off to just replace it with another 18 inch snowpack. My interest in in how much we can get total on the ground. We all have our preferences.

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Lots of 40N - 42N guys making comments here. When you have experience in snow-pack regions, 44N - 50N, you stop thinking like this. When I was a kid, this stuff never mattered to me either.

 

Once you see a town with 50 inches of snow-pack, with mountains of snow piles, mushroomed roof-tops -- you start to get it. These same guys will probably reply to this and disagree.

topped out at 52" here last winter.  Today I have between 4-5" on the ground.  I may be one of the few areas outside of the  Keweenaw in the UP to have a white Christmas.  But I agree on most of your points, Jonger.

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Better yet, how about 18 inches on top of the existing 8. lol

 

I'll never poopoo a bigger storm, but if I have a 24 inch snowpack, I wouldn't melt it off to just replace it with another 18 inch snowpack. My interest in in how much we can get total on the ground. We all have our preferences.

Yes, see you actually make use of the snow, so I can't rag on you. Others who just say they are snow cover guys but don't make use of the snow cover, don't really have a leg to stand on.

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Yeah, but you did what others should do, move to the most amazing spot possible :D

not everyone can move to the edge of the earth for their love of snow.  we all have our weather preferences, my firend.  I'm still trying to figure out how a severe weather lover justifies their love of a severe storm?

Kidding Stebo... :)

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not everyone can move to the edge of the earth for their love of snow.  we all have our weather preferences, my firend.  I'm still trying to figure out how a severe weather lover justifies their love of a severe storm?

Kidding Stebo... :)

I go chasing it or hope I am here working it :)

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Thought I'd post this here and see if anyone has an answer that could help.  I went through 2 storm spotter training classes (I think it was a basic and an advanced) in SC back in '08.  My digressively aging mind has misplaced the certificate and my spotter number.  Since I live in Indiana now would anyone know how I can recover that info or would I need to attend new classes since I have changed areas?  Thanks if anyone could help ;)

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Thought I'd post this here and see if anyone has an answer that could help.  I went through 2 storm spotter training classes (I think it was a basic and an advanced) in SC back in '08.  My digressively aging mind has misplaced the certificate and my spotter number.  Since I live in Indiana now would anyone know how I can recover that info or would I need to attend new classes since I have changed areas?  Thanks if anyone could help ;)

I would suggest maybe calling the office that you were certified through, they would probably have the best answer for you.

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I'm zillowing in Valdez

You guys are at least entertaining tonight in a otherwise dismal outlook. Most people either do no tlive in a area that receives 150+" a  year or they dont venture to such areas for winter activities. I love where I live, don't get me wrong but there are definite cons to being up here and even more so in the UP. But going from a area that averages 35-40" a year to where I am now does not compare in any level as far as winter is concerned. Sometimes I do wish I took a job offer down in North Carolina but of all people my wife talked me out of it and wanted to live up here how can you fight that :) I still would rather move out west if I had any chance at all.

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You guys are at least entertaining tonight in a otherwise dismal outlook. Most people either do no tlive in a area that receives 150+" a year or they dont venture to such areas for winter activities. I love where I live, don't get me wrong but there are definite cons to being up here and even more so in the UP. But going from a area that averages 35-40" a year to where I am now does not compare in any level as far as winter is concerned. Sometimes I do wish I took a job offer down in North Carolina but of all people my wife talked me out of it and wanted to live up here how can you fight that :) I still would rather move out west if I had any chance at all.

Not a fan of North Carolina. Smart choice.

The western side is nice, but it's essentially Appalachia.

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Yes, see you actually make use of the snow, so I can't rag on you. Others who just say they are snow cover guys but don't make use of the snow cover, don't really have a leg to stand on.

 

I'm going to remember this rule of thumb. Next time someone here starts getting excited over forecasted high winds I'm going to tell them to show me their windmill or stfu.

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