84 Hour NAM Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Norfolk has the landscape of New Orleans and the region has almost 2 million people. The NC/VA solution would be far more devastating than OBX.Sent from my XT1254 But the OBX is also a pristine, fragile, national treasure compared to the sewer that is Hampton Roads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterymix Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Sparsely populated NE NC gets the brunt on an OBX hit and the storm weakens to a TS/weak cat 1 before it gets to Tidewater. It would still be costly, but Isabel was about the most Tidewater can take. A Cat 2/3 direct hit with Norfolk/Virginia Beach in the NE quadrant would be a major disaster.Sent from my XT1254 There will be all sorts of impacts due to the upper level vorticity if it moves inland, especially short lived rain wrapped tornados in the right front quadrant. The category is a lessor indicator, focus more on the speed and deformation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needbiggerboat Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Norfolk has the landscape of New Orleans and the region has almost 2 million people. The NC/VA solution would be far more devastating than OBX.Sent from my XT1254 The assets in Tidewater are much more valuable and critical than OBX, and even NO. VA Beach already has persistent flooding due to SLR and makeup of the soil/effects from a past bolide impact. Hate to see OBX get impacted as it's a great area, but Tidewater is crucial to the state, region, and a big factor in national defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87storms Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Anywhere from Sunday morning at the earliest, to Monday. Hard to determine even the day at this point, and that's assuming that landfall actually took place in/ near NC. thanks. thinking of making a drive saturday morning to check out the waves. should be interesting by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarcean Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 The assets in Tidewater are much more valuable and critical than OBX, and even NO. VA Beach already has persistent flooding due to SLR and makeup of the soil/effects from a past bolide impact. Hate to see OBX get impacted as it's a great area, but Tidewater is crucial to the state, region, and a big factor in national defense. The Outer Banks are visited by over 5 million people a year...believe me when I say and no offense that it means far more to most people then Tidewater. Also I hope you realize the homes on the Outer Banks are worth close to ~$30 billion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeoman Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 The assets in Tidewater are much more valuable and critical than OBX, and even NO. VA Beach already has persistent flooding due to SLR and makeup of the soil/effects from a past bolide impact. Hate to see OBX get impacted as it's a great area, but Tidewater is crucial to the state, region, and a big factor in national defense. Nothing is more critical or valuable than Duck Donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfman23601 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 OBX will have to repair highway infrastructure from overwash, but they actually handle hurricanes quite well. If they get hit, it will not wipe them off the map. It will still be a treasure. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 People probably shouldn't live on barrier islands anyway. If somewhere's going to take a devastating hit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87storms Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 But the OBX is also a pristine, fragile, national treasure compared to the sewer that is Hampton Roads. OBX traffic though... but yea it's pretty nice there. Virginia also has some nice beaches away from the touristy spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowfan Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 One day obx will be gone. Especially the area south of Oregon inlet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfman23601 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 The Outer Banks are visited by over 5 million people a year...believe me when I say and no offense that it means far more to most people then Tidewater. Also I hope you realize the homes on the Outer Banks are worth close to ~$30 billion.The homes are on stilts and have strict codes. They'll be fine barring this thing turning into an Andrew, which isn't going to happen.Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 The assets in Tidewater are much more valuable and critical than OBX, and even NO. VA Beach already has persistent flooding due to SLR and makeup of the soil/effects from a past bolide impact. Hate to see OBX get impacted as it's a great area, but Tidewater is crucial to the state, region, and a big factor in national defense. Maybe Pat Robertson can pray the storm away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeoman Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 People probably shouldn't live on barrier islands anyway. If somewhere's going to take a devastating hit... Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ers-wxman1 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 People probably shouldn't live on barrier islands anyway. If somewhere's going to take a devastating hit... Barrier islands are meant to protect the mainland from storm surge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 The Outer Banks are visited by over 5 million people a year...believe me when I say and no offense that it means far more to most people then Tidewater. Also I hope you realize the homes on the Outer Banks are worth close to ~$30 billion. Home of the eastern fleet, NASA Langley, Langley AFB and major shipping port......yeah, OBX homes are FAR more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Barrier islands are meant to protect the mainland from storm surge. I've never been to the outer banks. I am sure it's beautiful and an awesome place to live most of the time but I don't know how people build there and logically expect not to have their houses destroyed at some point. It's the most prone place in the whole country for a tropical system strike even if many aren't that powerful. Obviously people like living in places like that and there are tons of islands and shorelines that could take a bit hit. But... still. Given the background warming going on and sea level rise it should be even more clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Home of the eastern fleet, NASA Langley, Langley AFB and major shipping port......yeah, OBX homes are FAR more important. A big hit on SE Va would be terrible that's one of the most at risk areas for such if it happened. No question you want an OBX hit if you have to choose based on those variables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ers-wxman1 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I've never been to the outer banks. I am sure it's beautiful and an awesome place to live most of the time but I don't know how people build there and logically expect not to have their houses destroyed at some point. It's the most prone place in the whole country for a tropical system strike even if many aren't that powerful. Obviously people like living in places like that and there are tons of islands and shorelines that could take a bit hit. But... still. Given the background warming going on and sea level rise it should be even more clear. You are correct. Big problem but people will do what they do regardless of the warnings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 The Outer Banks are visited by over 5 million people a year...believe me when I say and no offense that it means far more to most people then Tidewater. Also I hope you realize the homes on the Outer Banks are worth close to ~$30 billion. There are $30 billion dollars worth of ships in Norfolk. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automator Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Nothing is more critical or valuable than Duck Donuts Just go to the one in CHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Just go to the one in CHO.Eating Duck Donuts in Charlottesville don't taste as good as eating them on the beaches of NC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane M. Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 There are $30 billion dollars worth of ships in Norfolk. Just saying. Not to mention the multiple fortune 500 companies and major defense contractors that operate in that area. No question that the impacts would be far greater in SE Virginia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 There are $30 billion dollars worth of ships in Norfolk. Just saying. They'd go to sea, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I've never been to the outer banks. I am sure it's beautiful and an awesome place to live most of the time but I don't know how people build there and logically expect not to have their houses destroyed at some point. It's the most prone place in the whole country for a tropical system strike even if many aren't that powerful. Obviously people like living in places like that and there are tons of islands and shorelines that could take a bit hit. But... still. Given the background warming going on and sea level rise it should be even more clear. Yeah. I have a place in OC and I seriously thought about selling it after Sandy. I didnt have any major damage (some dock damage). A few friends had their boats sunk. And its not just the Canes. The noreasters are just as bad really. Just having to worry about it every fall and winter is getting old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 They'd go to sea, I think. Correct. Navy sends them to sea well out of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T. August Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Not sure if posted earlier... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosi76 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Correct. Navy sends them to sea well out of the way. In fact the Navy has set Sortie Condition Charlie indicating all ships must be prepared to get underway within 48 hours http://wavy.com/2015/09/30/navy-sets-sortie-condition-charlie-due-to-hurricane-joaquin/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane M. Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Anyone know what's going on with recon? Seems like they are having a coms issue. Not sure although Justin Berk tweeted that 113 kt winds were measured: https://twitter.com/JustinWeather/status/649397077601067008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymengineer Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Yeah. I have a place in OC and I seriously thought about selling it after Sandy. I didnt have any major damage (some dock damage). A few friends had their boats sunk. And its not just the Canes. The noreasters are just as bad really. Just having to worry about it every fall and winter is getting old. Did you already own this property all the way back in 1992? I've been fascinated by the January 1992 coastal storm that smashed the city (and the rest of the Delmarva). I would guess that within this generation, that storm was the scariest to experience in Ocean City itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87storms Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Nothing is more critical or valuable than Duck Donuts that place is incredible and definitely gives fractured prune a run for its money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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