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No Joaquin the park forecast for Mets


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The last couple satellitearrow-10x10.png frames are getting a touch of that buzz saw appeal. Nice symmetrical CDO, vaguely milky venting out the top, hint of an eye smack-dab in the middle. Starting to look quite nice.

It appears to be moving south (not southwest) the last few frames, maybe even SE. Maybe it's just my untrained eyes.

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. Preparations to protect life and property within the warning
areas in the Bahamas should be rushed to completion.

2. A significant adjustment to the forecast has been made this
afternoon, and this shows an increased threat to the mid-Atlantic
states and the Carolinas. However, confidence in the details of the
forecast after 72 hours remains low, since we have one normally
excellent model that keeps Joaquin far away from the United States
east coast. The range of possible outcomes is still large, and
includes the possibility of a major hurricane landfall in the
Carolinas.

3. Every effort is being made to provide the forecast models with
as much data as possible. The NOAA G-IV jet has begun a series of
missions in the storm environment, and the National Weather Service
is launching extra balloon soundings.

4. Because landfall, if it occurs, is still more than three days
away, it is too early to talk about specific wind, rain, or surge
impacts from Joaquin in the United States. Even if Joaquin stays
well out to sea, strong onshore winds will create minor to moderate
coastal flooding along the coasts of the mid-Atlantic and
northeastern states through the weekend.

5. A hurricane watch for a portion of the U.S. coast could be
required as early as Thursday evening.

6. Many areas of the eastern U.S. are currently experiencing heavy
rains and gusty winds associated with a frontal system. This
inclement weather is expected to continue over the next few days,
which could complicate preparations for Joaquin should it head
toward the coast, and greatly exacerbate the impacts from the
hurricane. Heavy rains are likely to continue over these areas
even if the center of Joaquin stays out to sea.

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Summary of 500 PM EDT...2100 UTC...information

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location...24.3n 73.1w

about 175 mi...285 km ENE of the central Bahamas

maximum sustained winds...85 mph...140 km/h

present movement...SW or 225 degrees at 8 mph...13 km/h

minimum central pressure...967 mb...28.56 inches

For all the OTS fads after 12z Euro fads, Harv too thought a VA track most likely

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On a serious note, that is not a good track.  Delmarva, NJ and LI are still going to get pounded.  Surge running up Chesapeake Bay?  Rowboat time in Baltimore and possibly DC before it passes to the east.  Mountains of PA are going to get drenched.

Isabel redeux with Agnes flooding, yea better hope the Euro is spot on

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. Preparations to protect life and property within the warning

areas in the Bahamas should be rushed to completion.

2. A significant adjustment to the forecast has been made this

afternoon, and this shows an increased threat to the mid-Atlantic

states and the Carolinas. However, confidence in the details of the

forecast after 72 hours remains low, since we have one normally

excellent model that keeps Joaquin far away from the United States

east coast. The range of possible outcomes is still large, and

includes the possibility of a major hurricane landfall in the

Carolinas.

 

 

lol...you know they are ripping their hair out right now trying to figure out which camp to follow.

 

Amazing the ECMWF carries so much weight as its just one model.  If it was the UKMET that was a wide miss, it would've been tossed immediately.

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Don't fall in love with NHC track yet. They have no choice really but to hedge impact. Reality may be that those forecasters are crapping pants and are worried about euro .

No doubt.  But wouldn't more sensible course have been to keep the 2pm track (100 miles offshore)?  Chessy interests are going to be freaking out over this, along with the scaredy-cats in the nation's capital.

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Looking forward to a Met here making a call , lol holy sh it what a clusterF. One of ours has made a call Mitch is all in for the GFS UKMET GGEM NAVY solution

I don't think I could make a legit call this far out with disparity of the models

I can personally make one because no one cares about mine. But when one of our red taggers makes a call people listen.

Give them 12-24 hours

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Don't fall in love with NHC track yet. They have no choice really but to hedge impact. Reality may be that those forecasters are crapping pants and are worried about euro .

 

Typically when you see the Euro remain so constant and consistent it certainly does throw up some flags but there is something about this case that really makes me wonder.  The Euro completely handles the riding just off the coast along with that cut-off in the eastern Atlantic...It seems like it develops a fairly deep trough in that region and this actually allows for those heights to the west to build and for the high pressure to slide somewhat NE which opens room for the system to curve NE.  

 

I'm not really sure if there is anything that justifies for those features to develop as advertised on the Euro.  Other than these features, the Euro seems pretty similar with the configuration across the eastern United States with of course the only difference being the trough doesn't capture Joaquin.  

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