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9/30-10/5 Joaquin-Trough Interaction-MODELS


Rjay

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I missed where he made a forecast, let alone used the NAM to make one. He said the NAM shows an OTS scenario (which it does) and an OTS outcome can't be dismissed (which it can't).

lol man , you beat me to it .

 

This was Sandy 4 days out .  I think this  one should strike the US , but am I sure of course not . The models are struggling as to which trough this will get tugged towards . 

All options are on the table no matter which way one is leanings . 

 

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If you cut out the outliers on either side it becomes a pretty easy forecasted track with landfall near the VA/NC border. As noted in my long winded post earlier, I still feel that is the most likely scenario. 

 

I also wouldn't be shocked if the GFS or GGEM sent the system into Florida tonight with the way things have been going. If we didn't have model mayhem we would have nothing at all.

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The previous run was more OTS, just playing catch up.

The NAM isn't very good at forecasting tropical cyclones. I would like to see guidance, even the NAM, begin to shift to clarify the picture.

 

I wasn't making a forecast or implying one. But with respect to such ideas, right now, my thoughts are that the two clusters of tracks (GFS/GEFS and ECWMF/EPS to keep things simple) provide the most reasonable scenarios in a highly uncertain setup. I'm not sure about a compromise idea given the complexity of what has to unfold (either cluster is probably much more likely than a compromise track between those clusters). I personally think the landfall idea has somewhat more merit, but cannot dismiss the ECMWF at present.  

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Better hope so. This is giving the NWS offices fits.

From Greenville-Spartanburg NWS

"...IT IS FROM THAT POINT ONWARD...00Z SATURDAY...THAT THE WHEELS MAY

FLY OFF IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. THE OPERATIONAL GUIDANCE DIVERGES

SIGNIFICANTLY AND RAPIDLY...AND THE ENSEMBLE SPREAD WIDENS QUICKLY.

THE RECENT MODEL RUNS SHOW EVEN MORE OF A DIFFERENCE IN OUTCOME BY

SATURDAY NIGHT WITH THE TRACK OF JOAQUIN. AS A RESULT...CONFIDENCE

PLUMMETS TOWARD AN ALL TIME LOW...BUT KEEP IN MIND WE ARE DEALING

WITH AN EVENT THAT IS MORE THAN 72H OUT. THERE MIGHT BE A TENDENCY

TO PAY TOO MUCH ATTENTION TO THE OPERATIONAL GFS WITH ITS TRACK OF

THE TROPICAL CYCLONE INLAND...EVENTUALLY LOOPING OVER THE CAROLINA

PIEDMONT OVER THE WEEKEND. IT WOULD BE WISE TO DOWNPLAY THIS IN

FAVOR OF THE OFFICIAL NHC TRACK FOR THE TIME BEING...."

 

This animation says it all...

 

https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/649319199702167553

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