Juliancolton Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 What do you mean? What do you mean by moral? Saying stuff like luckily it didn't hit us, or it saved lives? Its disturbing how a couple of people are trying to root this on. Let it go..geez yes morals come into play...some people really leave a bad taste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 ^Pretty much that. All this does is clog and derail threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 The dune thing was a such a mess. It could have prevented soooooo much damage. The newsday map is actually pretty conservative for my area. It shows no water one block which vertically wasn't the case Long Beach will finally get a continuous dune system along with an extended and elevated beach. The jetties are going to also get rebuilt. I believe the project is set to begin by 2016 if everything goes according to plans. http://www.nan.usace.army.mil/Missions/CivilWorks/ProjectsinNewYork/JonesInlettoEastRockawayInlet(LongBeach).aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Long Beach will finally get a continuous dune system along with an extended and elevated beach. The jetties are going to also get rebuilt. I believe the project is set to begin by 2016 if everything goes according to plans. http://www.nan.usace.army.mil/Missions/CivilWorks/ProjectsinNewYork/JonesInlettoEastRockawayInlet(LongBeach).aspx Good idea. About time they did something down there. Hopefully it helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 The moral crap will be at least 24 hour time out from now on. I do not see that as a specifically proscribed topic per the board rules...and generally banter threads are afforded more liberality than any other... American Weather Rules & Restrictions Boardwide Rules No porn or links to porn No threats of physical violence through postings or PMs No racist/sexist/ethnic/homophobic slurs No using PM system for personal gain/spam No advertising without prior admin approval Multiple accounts will get you banned Do not post threads asking why another member was warned/banned No political sigs, avatars or member titles No excessive trolling of other members You may not post private messages publicly or any part thereof unless you have approval from the originator. Weather Forum Rules No politics/religious discussion No foul language No personal attacks/OT arguing Try to stay on topic Attack the idea, not the poster Spell out your forecast/thinking/opposing viewpoint clearly If you post a map, explain it Keep banter to a minimum during Storm Mode* (see below) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Whine all you want in banter threads. Clogging up model or discussion threads with the tired old moral debate wont be tolerated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Good idea. About time they did something down there. Hopefully it helps. Sandy finally convinced them that they had to do something. They had an opportunity to do a similar project well before Sandy, but council meetings were filled with loud arguments against the particular plans. Long Beach is a great place, but the political process there has left much to be desired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Imagine how crappy life must still be if you are the captain of a freighter trying to get across the North Atlantic. Since roughly 50% of the people on earth go to sleep hungry at night, life is fairly crappy for more than you would think on the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 The PATH @PATHTrain 7m7 minutes ago Due to a track condition, PATH train service is suspended system wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 These last few days have reminded me of how much I enjoy tracking a good storm, regardless of the final outcome. I almost enjoy the ride more than the actual event. I am sure the Euro will be dry humped by many for the rest of the year now. And I am sure it will be countered by all those that are still butt hurt about missing out on the blizzard last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdp146 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 These last few days have reminded me of how much I enjoy tracking a good storm, regardless of the final outcome. I almost enjoy the ride more than the actual event. I am sure the Euro will be dry humped by many for the rest of the year now. And I am sure it will be countered by all those that are still butt hurt about missing out on the blizzard last year. This was one of the most fun tropical systems to track. Once it exploded in strength in the face of pretty solid shear, you knew it was going to get interesting. ..and who doesn't love a good dry hump of the euro when it's showing the goods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Leave the moral bs home. Im not as nice as rjay, stop clogging model threads with this crap or youll be gone. Your gruffness would give Stanley Kowalski a run for his money. I have disliked you from the day I first encountered you on these boards years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCSNOWMAN2020 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 These last few days have reminded me of how much I enjoy tracking a good storm, regardless of the final outcome. I almost enjoy the ride more than the actual event. I am sure the Euro will be dry humped by many for the rest of the year now. And I am sure it will be countered by all those that are still butt hurt about missing out on the blizzard last year. well said ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 NYC and south was always in the game for a good soaking, it was north of there where I was concerned and so far it's playing out that way. can't even get the ground below the tree canopies wet yet...lol Bdr at .92 for the event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 These last few days have reminded me of how much I enjoy tracking a good storm, regardless of the final outcome. I almost enjoy the ride more than the actual event. I am sure the Euro will be dry humped by many for the rest of the year now. And I am sure it will be countered by all those that are still butt hurt about missing out on the blizzard last year. The bottom line is that the Euro is the highest scoring model. The Euro missing the 20 inch snow line by 50 to 75 miles was a much smaller error than the other models missing Joaquin by 500 to 750 miles too far east. IMHO the last time that the Euro had a significant miss was the notorious initialization error run with the Boxing Day blizzard. While no model is perfect, the Euro easily wins the numbers game by being on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaPo Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 These last few days have reminded me of how much I enjoy tracking a good storm, regardless of the final outcome. I almost enjoy the ride more than the actual event. I am sure the Euro will be dry humped by many for the rest of the year now. And I am sure it will be countered by all those that are still butt hurt about missing out on the blizzard last year. Technically the Euro isn't that much better than the GFS, but if there's a consistent trend from the model, it's most likely going to be true. Also the Euro wasn't that wrong when it came to the Blizzard earlier this year. A 50 mile difference in Montana wouldn't have made a difference. A 50 mile difference in the NYC metro pissed off a lot of people. At the end of the day, it's incredible that we can prepare for blizzards and hurricanes a week in advance now. Initially the Euro and GFS signaled a phase event. The Euro shifted and the GFS corrected soon after. Imagine where we would have been 10 years ago. With all of that said, the issues the models have had with complex events in recent years makes me believe that climate change is making it very difficult for them to predict the weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 The bottom line is that the Euro is the highest scoring model. The Euro missing the 20 inch snow line by 50 to 75 miles was a much smaller error than the other models missing Joaquin by 500 to 750 miles too far east. IMHO the last time that the Euro had a significant miss was the notorious initialization error run with the Boxing Day blizzard. While no model is perfect, the Euro easily wins the numbers game by being on top. But unfortunately that 75 mile error effected thousands and thousands of people..For a few runs it had the entire state of NJ getting 2-3 feet 48 hrs out. I'm not saying it's a bad model, but we finally get DR NO In our corner for a big snow event and it ends up being wrong...Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 But unfortunately that 75 mile error effected thousands and thousands of people.. For a few runs it had the entire state of NJ getting 2-3 feet 48 hrs out. I'm not saying it's a bad model, but we finally get DR NO In our corner for a big snow event and it ends up being wrong...Lol The funny thing is that we routinely accept the GFS eastward bias on coastal storms like with the February 2013 blizzard. I wonder how much the GFS doing better with the end of January event was just a broken clock being right twice a day type of phenomenon? I guess that we may never know. From the January 1996 Blizzard: THERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES WITH THE MODELS RESOLUTION OF THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE TROUGH THAT MOVES THROUGH THE ROCKIES BY SATURDAY JANUARY 6 (DAY 3) AND INTO THE PLAINS ON SUN JANUARY 7 (DAY 4). THE ECMWF IS SHOWING THE MOST DEFINITION TO THIS SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE TROUGH AND SUBSEQUENTLY HAS A 1010 MB LOW MOVING FROM THE NORTHERN GA/AL BORDER ON SUN JANUARY 7 (DAY 4) AND BOMBING OFF THE MID-ATLANTIC COAST (984 MB) BY MON JANUARY 8 (DAY 5). THE MRF IS MUCH MORE FRAGMENTED AND POSITIVELY TILTED WITH THIS TROUGH AND SUBSEQUENTLY HAS ONLY A WEAK 1014 MB WAVE SHEARING OFF THE SOUTHEASTERN COAST ON SUN JANUARY 7 (DAY 4). THE RESOLUTION OF SHORT WAVES IN THE BASE OF TROUGHS IS AN AREA THE MRF OFTEN DOES A POOR JOB WITH....WE ARE TRENDING MORE TOWARD THE ECMWF." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Insane situation unfolding in SC/NC area and this is without a direct hurricane impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 http://6abc.com/home/house-swept-into-flood-waters-in-cape-may-co/1014674/ Dam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdp146 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 http://6abc.com/home/house-swept-into-flood-waters-in-cape-may-co/1014674/ Kinda why I would say this counts for the first nor Easter contest, low pressure or not. The flooding in the back bays around here is about borderline moderate. Comparing to Sandy (because we will compare everything to Sandy for years) the water level is still only about what it was 3-4 high tide cycles before sandy's worst. Dam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillsdaleMIWeather Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Though You guys would like to see this, ha ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Good idea. About time they did something down there. Hopefully it helps. Saw a picture today of someone kayaking on one of the canal streets in Long Beach. The waves must be insane, and they'll be that way for a while with Joaquin peaking at borderline Category 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Really crazy what's going on in SC. Well modeled in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Really crazy what's going on in SC. Well modeled in advance. And stilll coming down. SOUTH CAROLINA ...BERKELEY COUNTY... 3 NNE HUGER 14.68 100 AM 10/04 USGS SITE 5 E GOOSE CREEK 11.26 130 AM 10/04 USGS SITE ...CHARLESTON COUNTY... 3 ENE BOONE HALL PLA 17.10 1231 AM 10/04 SOCIAL MEDIA CHARLESTON AIRPORT 14.92 200 AM 10/04 ASOS CHARLESTON 13.88 130 AM 10/04 OFFICIAL NWS OBS 2 NNW GARRIS LANDING 13.83 130 AM 10/04 RAWS && Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Dam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 645am: NWS Employee reports 24.23 inches of rain so far near Boone Hall Plantation. #chswx #scwx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntenseBlizzard2014 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 DamWhat app is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCSNOWMAN2020 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Glad we missed this event; about 6 more weeks we can start tracking snow events ..(hopefully) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRRTA22 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I cant imagine what 20 inches of rain in nyc would look like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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