CoastalWx Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Sure it's impressive I guess, but when 90-92 is all you can muster, certainly a bit of a yawner to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Sure it's impressive I guess, but when 90-92 is all you can muster, certainly a bit of a yawner to me. true on that end, a nice heat wave should contain a 97-98 scorcher mixed in.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Maybe some scattered bangers today away from the beaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 true on that end, a nice heat wave should contain a 97-98 scorcher mixed in. Sent from my iPhone Here's Boston heat wave from August 11-18 of 2002: 90, 90, 101, 94, 94, 96, 95 Earlier in the month they had 2 days in a row of 93 and in July they had 2 days at 97. Now thats a hot summer...this year not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Valley Snowman Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Wed will be 5..Then the humidity gets so high that temps will have trouble getting there thru the weekend. I like my 7-8 days call by end of warm season The ridge breaks down and the dews slightly lower this weekend. After Tue/Wed, the odds of seeing 90 seem pretty low for over a week. Perhaps we get a more favored look towards the last weekend of the month but the airmass has to be hotter than it is now by early September otherwise it's 87-89 and not 90=92. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 The ridge breaks down and the dews slightly lower this weekend. After Tue/Wed, the odds of seeing 90 seem pretty low for over a week. Perhaps we get a more favored look towards the last weekend of the month but the airmass has to be hotter than it is now by early September otherwise it's 87-89 and not 90=92.I agree on the heat knocking back, but dews get even higher this weekend as the front hangs up just to our west or sort of washes out over New Eng.. So maybe more storms around in the soup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Already some nice looking CU out there at this early hour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Paul Gordon Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 For those who are looking forward to a hot end of August and nasty hot and humid beginning to September, may I invite you to attend two back to back AP classes on the sunny side of the school I will be offering them in? They are mid day so, with high dewpoints and several days of heat, they should be quite toasty. Oh, yeah, almost forgot, 24 sophomores in one of them. Might bring back some happy memories for those of you who relish this kind of weather. No AC, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I agree on the heat knocking back, but dews get even higher this weekend as the front hangs up just to our west or sort of washes out over New Eng.. So maybe more storms around in the soup Even higher? Like from 62 to 67? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 They've been 70 last 2 days.. So a bit higher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 When at 7am under a sprinkler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 They've been 70 last 2 days.. So a bit higher BDL past two afternoons have been 64-65F dews during max heating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 BDL past two afternoons have been 64-65F dews during max heating.How about wooded areas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 80/72 Warm for sure but it seems kind of toothless heat when the nights are in the low 60's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 BDL past two afternoons have been 64-65F dews during max heating. Even my electronic station surrounded by vegetation has been in the 60s at the peak of day time heating. Speaking of dews, I was hoping to be able to get them from the AirNow station in town at 980' because it's an ASOS quality station but their humidity sensor seems to be down. That would be the closest to getting an accurate dewpoint "where people live". The station has a good siting too. I have an inquiry out to see if it can be fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 How about wooded areas? Just the other day you said you are not at all concerned with what those areas are. You are only concerned with verifying the big climate site in CT. So are we taking temperatures at BDL and supplying the dews from the wooded hills? So when the convo turns to temperatures, we use BDL. But when discussing dews we go with the PWS? I'm confused. I'm not concerned about what 1,000 feet hits. They/we never have a chance for a heat wave..and certainly not in late August. I'm concerned at verifying at the big climate site in CT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 How about wooded areas? More upper 50s and low 60s for VT/NH/ME/parts of MA this morning. Glad we live here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Just the other day you said you are not at all concerned with what those areas hit. You are only concerned with verifying the big climate site in CT. So are we taking temperatures at BDL and supplying the dews from the wooded hills? Cherry pick the obs we want? We take valley maxes, high terrain mins, and countryside dews. I thought you knew this by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Just the other day you said you are not at all concerned with what those areas are. You are only concerned with verifying the big climate site in CT. So are we taking temperatures at BDL and supplying the dews from the wooded hills? So when the convo turns to temperatures, we use BDL. But when discussing dews we go with the highest PWS we can find? We use torch areas for heatwave for forecast verification . Dews are measured where folks live eat and breathe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 We use torch areas for heatwave for forecast verification . Dews are measured where folks live eat and breathe That's just ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 We use torch areas for heatwave for forecast verification . Dews are measured where folks live eat and breathe Why would we use two different sites to verify sensible weather? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 We take valley maxes, high terrain mins, and countryside dews. I thought you knew this by now.Yeah it just makes my head spin lol. Pick an instrument or a spot and stick with it. He's rounding all the bases to make sure he's got 70+ dews in the daytime, but also 90F+ ambient, and then nightime temps in the 70s. Unfortunately that's not New England climo so he's gotta use three different spots to get his ideal climate haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Just trying to enjoy the weather and make it fun no matter ones perspective . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Yeah it just makes my head spin lol. Pick an instrument or a spot and stick with it. He's rounding all the bases to make sure he's got 70+ dews in the daytime, but also 90F+ ambient, and then nightime temps in the 70s. Unfortunately that's not New England climo so he's gotta use three different spots to get his ideal climate haha. Wow...GON dew of 72F! Wow...BDL high of 93F! Wow...ORH low of 70F! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Just trying to enjoy the weather and make it fun no matter ones perspective . You certainly make conversation haha. I think some of us just have a respect for proper observations (consistency is the main part of good observations) and try to keep it realistic. It may not be overly exciting or fun... but its certainly a topic we discuss on here a lot lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 You certainly make conversation haha. I think some of us just have a respect for proper observations (consistency is the main part of good observations) and try to keep it realistic. It may not be overly exciting or fun... but its certainly a topic we discuss on here a lot lol. Agreed, which is why I like to take the hottest temperatures from the typically hottest locations in the valley and downslope areas. That gives us a good idea where the true heat and heat wave is. And it's why I like to take the dew point readings from areas that are grassy, forested, in the suburbs that aren't in a modified or asphalt type environment, So no matter where you are, you are getting the best possible representation of any type of weather observation you are most interested in. I.e..take the heat from the areas that should be hottest and the dews from the areas should be the dewiest..etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 You can't argue with the logic though, you can only disagree with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Agreed, which is why I like to take the hottest temperatures from the typically hottest locations in the valley and downslope areas. That gives us a good idea where the true heat and heat wave is. And it's why I like to take the dew point readings from areas that are grassy, forested, in the suburbs that aren't in a modified or asphalt type environment, So no matter where you are, you are getting the best possible representation of any type of weather observation you are most interested in. I.e..take the heat from the areas that should be hottest and the dews from the areas should be the dewiest..etc etc I just disagree that it is the "best representation of any type of weather you are most interested in." I think you are looking for the "most extreme possible representation of any type of weather you are interested in." I think of "best representation" as tossing out the outliers and picking the middle ground. The ASOS dews are just field climo dews. I know a few of the big airports in SNE may have some tarmac issues, but even the podunk small airfields in NNE have ASOS where the dews are lower than the local PWS. So I'm not sure I completely buy ASOS dews being lower than PWS as artificially modified. BDL's dews run lower than local PWS, but so does the podunk MVL ASOS up here. Its just a different climo siting with better potential for mixing out than in a treed area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 You can't argue with the logic though, you can only disagree with it. Can only disagree with it... I get it though. This time of year is so boring, I usually try to make a mountain out of a molehill just to try and have something to discuss weather wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I just disagree that it is the "best representation of any type of weather you are most interested in." I think you are looking for the "most extreme possible representation of any type of weather you are interested in." I think of "best representation" as tossing out the outliers and picking the middle ground. The ASOS dews are just field climo dews. I know a few of the big airports in SNE may have some tarmac issues, but even the podunk small airfields in NNE have ASOS where the dews are lower than the local PWS. So I'm not sure I completely buy ASOS dews being lower than PWS as artificially modified. BDL's dews run lower than local PWS, but so does the podunk MVL ASOS up here. Its just a different climo siting with better potential for mixing out than in a treed area. Kevin doesn't care about siting. He only cares what particular site gives the most extreme weather at the time (he just admitted this above). So if it's a PWS getting hit with a grass sprinkler to give 74F dewpoints, then he uses it. If it's a BDL thermometer that has started to drift warm on MADIS and is in the best downslope location to boot in his region, then he uses that for ambient air temperature. It's not about accuracy for him, its about just reporting the most extreme weather observatons regardless if they are sited correctly or representative of the area. As long as everyone understands that, then they can read his posts knowing that they are not using them for accurate weather obs. Just what outliers might be reporting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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