UnionWeatherWx Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Up to 86 F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 BURN.... Not quite. If one looks beyond the confines of NYC itself, one would find that the vast majority of the United States is running normal to cooler than normal for August, and in fact, most of the suburbia stations in PA/NJ will finish August fairly close to normal, especially after at least 3 days of slightly negative departures this week. Many stations are only running around +0.5 to +1.5 in suburbia, and by the end of the month, most of us in suburbia will be 0 to +1. My official forecast in the main board thread actually called for a warmer than normal August in DCA and the Mid-Atlantic, and departures around -0.5 in NYC/BOS, essentially near normal. While the urban centers themselves will be very warm due to the lack of radiational cooling, most in our area won't be far from normal. So in my opinion, the nationwide ideas verified, and locally, it was an "Ok" forecast for most. The urban centers of NYC like LGA/NYC/JFK/EWR will be a significant bust. Augusts 2002/2009 will finish significantly warmer than this month for the Northeast region as a whole: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Park and Newark up to 85. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwarlock Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 The heat has been sneaky this year and it shall continue thru at least mid September Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Not quite. If one looks beyond the confines of NYC itself, one would find that the vast majority of the United States is running normal to cooler than normal for August, and in fact, most of the suburbia stations in PA/NJ will finish August fairly close to normal, especially after at least 3 days of slightly negative departures this week. Many stations are only running around +0.5 to +1.5 in suburbia, and by the end of the month, most of us in suburbia will be 0 to +1. My official forecast in the main board thread actually called for a warmer than normal August in DCA and the Mid-Atlantic, and departures around -0.5 in NYC/BOS, essentially near normal. While the urban centers themselves will be very warm due to the lack of radiational cooling, most in our area won't be far from normal. So in my opinion, the nationwide ideas verified, and locally, it was an "Ok" forecast for most. The urban centers of NYC like LGA/NYC/JFK/EWR will be a significant bust. Augusts 2002/2009 will finish significantly warmer than this month for the Northeast region as a whole: That is right. It's just that the entire NE from NJ was above normal on average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 well above normal offshore waters likely helping us be above normal as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Explain my 27 90+ readings this summer then? Almost no record highs this summer and warm nighttime minimums (especially in the UHI areas). Above average for August yes, but nothing really that remarkable. With that said, I was on the cooler train of recent Augusts so the warmth and lack of rain has been a bit surprising to me. (I do like that 02 and 09 had warm Augusts!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Take the pissing contest somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 You can clearly see the heat has been primarily concentrated in the city and immediate suburbs.. Many of us more than 15 miles N, NE, S, NW, W are at or slightly above average for the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Almost no record highs this summer and warm nighttime minimums (especially in the UHI areas). Above average for August yes, but nothing really that remarkable. With that said, I was on the cooler train of recent Augusts so the warmth and lack of rain has been a bit surprising to me. (I do like that 02 and 09 had warm Augusts!) Additionally, 27 90F days is only representative for an extremely small percentage of the area. Most of us are running near or slightly below normal on 90F days this summer. I have 14 so far. 6 in August, 4 July, 3 June, and 1 May. This week will have none. Not very impressive. I still consider our last "real" hot month to be July 2013, during which I recorded 10 90 degree days, with a maximum temperature of 96.5F; an impressive summer month. My high for this summer is 94.0F so far. Certainly a warmer summer than last year (2014), but the overall picture will be just slightly above normal for most (JJA 0 to +1). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 KNYC high so far at 87. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwarlock Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Actually most of us are not akin to colts ne k temperature. ..I would day new brunswick is very representative of new jersey and they have a ton of 90s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestHillWx Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Having worked in New Brunswick and then proceeding to drive home 30 minutes north, on most days there was an 8-10 degree difference. I don't think it's representative of the state, but I could see it being used in conjunction with the major city centers up and down the NJ Turnpike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I think we've had six 90-degree days in Westchester this summer(might be seven). A lot of days in the upper 80s, but no real heat. Definitely an above normal summer after a relatively cool June, but nothing like the scorcher of 2010 and 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 It's been consistently warm to hot but not a scorcher. Will be interesting to see how hot it gets into early September. The only signs I've seen of summer coming to an end is the loss of daylight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 It's been consistently warm to hot but not a scorcher. Will be interesting to see how hot it gets into early September. The only signs I've seen of summer coming to an end is the loss of daylight. would think we'd flip to wetter courtesy of the nino sooner rather than later. In 2002, we were dry until around Labor Day when a series of noreasters hit and it turned wet quite quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masomenos Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 As far as comfort is concerned, the difference between the city and the mid to outer suburbs has been pretty stark this summer. Lower than normal soil moisture and the lack of our usual humid airmasses has contributed to some pretty high diurnal ranges just outside of the cities. Definitely a very welcomed change of departure given all the sticky summers we've had the last 10+ years. I definitely haven't had to drive too far to escape the hot nights we've been having in Brooklyn this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Actually most of us are not akin to colts ne k temperature. ..I would day new brunswick is very representative of new jersey and they have a ton of 90s Incorrect. It would benefit you to conduct fact checking prior to making assertions. The following are COOP stations throughout suburban and rural NJ. All of them are 20 or less 90F days. Generally near normal. New Brunswick is the hottest station in the state by far, aside from Newark, and possibly anyone living in the urban sections of Essex/Union Counties. However, the vast majority of NJ is not adjacent to highway/urban landscape. Trenton, NJ: 20 Atlantic City Airport, NJ: 16 Millville, NJ: 14 Hammonton, NJ: 18 Sussex, NJ: 8 Wertsville (Hunterdon County), NJ: 11 Flemington, NJ: 16 Belvidere Bridge, NJ: 5 Cape May, NJ: 9 Wilmington, DE: 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 I believe i have 17 90 degree days. Gotta check to make sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 5 90 degree days here... Most have been 81-86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 New Brunswick is a urban city how is that similar to the open fields of Belle mead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwarlock Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Where is Newark Somerville Plainfield Jersey City Belle Mead on that list....seems skewed rural and shore....Trenton has 20 which is alot...the downplaying of above normal is humorous...oh its above normal but not THAT above normal...if the situation is reversed everyone would be cheering a -1...july was way above normal for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdp146 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 https://m.facebook.com/NWSNewYorkNY/photos/a.188187191210604.50415.177148895647767/1119359121426735/?type=1&source=48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Where is Newark Somerville Plainfield Jersey City Belle Mead on that list....seems skewed rural and shore....Trenton has 20 which is alot...the downplaying of above normal is humorous...oh its above normal but not THAT above normal...if the situation is reversed everyone would be cheering a -1...july was way above normal for me Somerville has 15. Newark as we already know has 28. Those other stations are not COOP or NOAA operated. Actually, the definition of skewed would be only posting urban stations, given the vast majority of NJ is suburban or rural. It's only the immediate area around PHL, and the NE corridor from New B. through Essex/Union/Hudson Counties that are very urbanized. No one is downplaying; these are simply facts. And the difference between urban centers and the rest of the area has been quite significant in both 90F days and temperature departures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 There's even a significant difference between Newark and NYC due to radiational cooling. If meteorological summer ended today: Newark's summer departure: +1.26 Central Park: +1.9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 high minimums have fueled the above normal summer...low minimums are hard to come by these days...if you add up the coolest summer monthly minimums from June to July 1963 is the coolest...2005 or 2008 is the warmest...I haven't checked it yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 There's even a significant difference between Newark and NYC due to radiational cooling. If meteorological summer ended today: Newark's summer departure: +1.26 Central Park: +1.9 Look at that NWS graphic that was posted, though. Bridgeport which radiates much better than the park is ranking as the warmest August on record so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnionWeatherWx Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Where is Newark Somerville Plainfield Jersey City Belle Mead on that list....seems skewed rural and shore....Trenton has 20 which is alot...the downplaying of above normal is humorous...oh its above normal but not THAT above normal...if the situation is reversed everyone would be cheering a -1...july was way above normal for me +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Look at that NWS graphic that was posted, though. Bridgeport which radiates much better than the park is ranking as the warmest August on record so far. Yes, see that nationwide anomaly map I posted on the last page. New England had a very warm August, as most of the cool was directed in the Lakes/OH Valley. Thus, longitude made a significant difference. PA/NJ had much cooler departures than those further NE. Not disputing that NYC northeastward had an extremely warm August thus far, driven largely by high humidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Where is Newark Somerville Plainfield Jersey City Belle Mead on that list....seems skewed rural and shore....Trenton has 20 which is alot...the downplaying of above normal is humorous...oh its above normal but not THAT above normal...if the situation is reversed everyone would be cheering a -1...july was way above normal for me How many does trenton avg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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