ClicheVortex2014 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 ILX .LONG TERM...(MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY)ISSUED AT 248 PM CDT SUN JUL 12 2015PRIMARY CONCERN THRU EARLY TUESDAY MORNING WILL BE WITH THE THREATFOR WIDESPREAD SEVERE WEATHER AS SEVERAL ROUNDS OF THUNDERSTORMS AREEXPECTED TO TRACK SOUTHEAST INTO PARTS OF CENTRAL THROUGH EASTCENTRAL AND SOUTHEAST ILLINOIS. IN ADDITION...HEAT INDEX VALUESARE EXPECTED TO BE WITHIN A DEGREE OR TWO OF 105 TOMORROW AFTERNOONESPECIALLY ACROSS THE WEST...AS A RESULT...WILL ISSUE A HEATADVISORY FOR AREAS ROUGHLY ALONG AND WEST OF A TAYLORVILLE TOLINCOLN TO HENRY LINE. IF THUNDERSTORM COVERAGE IS NOT ASANTICIPATED TOMORROW MORNING...WE MAY HAVE TO EXPAND THE ADVISORYFURTHER EAST. ADDITIONAL HEAVY RAINFALL IS ALSO A CONCERN WITH THESEVERAL ROUNDS OF STORMS EXPECTED...HOWEVER...LATEST MODEL DATAHAS SHIFTED THE AXIS A BIT FURTHER TO THE EAST. THIS WOULD FAVORTHE HEAVIER RAINS EAST OF I-55 WHERE FLASH FLOOD GUID VALUES WEREQUITE LOW...THANKS TO THE RAINFALL OVER PARTS OF THE AREA OVER THEPAST 24 HOURS.CONVECTIVE INDICES STILL VERY IMPRESSIVE TOMORROW AFTERNOON ANDEVENING AHEAD OF A RATHER STRONG SHORTWAVE FOR JULY THAT ISFORECAST TO TRACK ACROSS THE LOWER GREAT LAKES. MIXED LAYER CAPESOF AROUND 5000 J/KG WITH 0-6KM SHEAR VALUES OF 50-60 KTS FORECASTBY THE NAM TOMORROW AFTERNOON AND EVENING WITH VERY LITTLE IF ANYCONVECTIVE INHIBITION. 700-500 MB LAPSE RATES OF 7.5-8.5 DEG/CSEEN OVER A WIDE AREA OF THE CORN BELT TOMORROW AFTERNOON ANDEVENING AS WELL. WHATEVER CONVECTION WE SEE IN THE MORNING SHOULDPUSH AWAY FROM OUR AREA BY LATE MORNING/EARLY AFTERNOON WITHSEVERAL HOURS FOR THE ATMOSPHERE TO RECOVER BEFORE THE NEXT STORMCOMPLEX DEVELOPS TO OUR NORTH AND TRACKS SSE ACROSS CENTRALILLINOIS LATE IN THE AFTERNOON OR MORE LIKELY DURING THE EVENINGWITH DAMAGING WINDS AND LARGE HAIL ASSOCIATED WITH THE FAST MOVINGLINE OF STORMS WITH ISOLATED QLCS TORNADOES QUITE POSSIBLE WITHTHE EXTREME INSTABILITY AND STRONG DEEP LAYERED SHEAR. THE STORMTHREAT WILL DIMINISH LATE IN THE EVENING WITH A FEW MODELS STILLTRYING TO BRING ANOTHER MCS SOUTH INTO AT LEAST EASTERN IL WELLAFTER MIDNIGHT. SEEMS HARD TO FATHOM THAT AFTER A STRONG-SEVEREQLCS MOVES THRU IN THE EVENING THAT THE ATMOSPHERE WILL HAVESUFFICIENT TIME TO RECOVER. WITH RATHER IMPRESSIVE FORCINGASSOCIATED WITH THE VIGOROUS UPPER WAVE AND SUCH UNSEASONABLYSTRONG DEEP LAYERED SHEAR...WE WON`T COMPLETELY DISCOUNT THAT IDEASO WE WILL HOLD ON TO CHANCE POPS WELL AFTER MIDNIGHT. IWX .SHORT TERM...(THIS EVENING THROUGH MONDAY)ISSUED AT 354 PM EDT SUN JUL 12 2015MOISTURE STUCK UNDER THE INVERSION HAS KEPT SKIES MOSTLY CLOUDYAND KEPT TEMPERATURES COOL THUS FAR TODAY. WHILE THE MOISTURE WILLREMAIN STUCK UNDER THE STRENGTHENING INVERSION...EXPECT ENOUGHMIXING FOR SOME SUN TO PEEK THROUGH BY LATER TODAY AND WARMTEMPERATURES INTO THE UPPER 70S TO LOW 80S. THEREFORE DID NOT MAKEANY CHANGES TO ONGOING HIGH TEMPERATURE FORECAST FOR TODAY.CONTINUING TO MONITOR SEVERE WEATHER THREAT FOR MAINLY THE WESTERN HALFOF THE FORECAST AREA ON MONDAY. WILL NEED TO MONITOR OVERNIGHTCONVECTIVE TRENDS CLOSELY AS THE TRACK OF THESE STORMS WILL DECIDEWHERE THE FRONT/COMPOSITE OUTFLOW SETTLES DURING THE DAY ON MONDAY.WHEREVER THIS BOUNDARY DOES SETTLE...SIGNIFICANT SEVERE WEATHER CAN BEEXPECTED ALONG AND IMMEDIATELY WEST WITH ALL SEVERE WEATHER TYPESANTICIPATED. CURRENT THINKING IS THAT THE REMNANTS OF THE CONVECTIONIN MINNESOTA TONIGHT WILL TRACK THROUGH THE AREA AFTER 12Z. IN THEWAKE OF THIS CONVECTION...RAPID DESTABILIZATION WILL OCCUR ACROSSNORTHERN ILLINOIS AND NORTHWEST INDIANA. EFFICIENTEVAPOTRANSPIRATION FROM THE WELL DEVELOPED AGRICULTURAL CROPS INADDITION TO THE MOIST SOILS FROM THE RECENT WET PATTERN WILL CAUSEDEWPOINTS TO RISE INTO THE UPPER 70S TO LOW 80S DURING THE AFTERNOONMONDAY. THIS MOIST BOUNDARY LAYER BENEATH STEEP MID LEVEL LAPSERATES IN EXCESS OF 7 C/KM WILL LEAD TO EXTREME MLCAPE NEAR 5000J/KG. IN ADDITION... ANY STORMS THAT CAN FORM IN THIS ENVIRONMENTWILL QUICKLY ORGANIZE WITH AROUND 50 KNOTS OF DEEP LAYER SHEAR.PRIMARY CONCERN FOR SEVERE WEATHER IN OUR FORECAST AREA WILL BEDURING THE EVENING HOURS. SUPERCELLS WILL FORM ALONG AND AHEAD OF ASOUTHWARD MOVING COLD FRONT DROPPING OUT OF WISCONSIN. EXPECT THESESTORMS TO CONGEAL INTO A FORWARD PROPAGATING MCS WHICH WILL TRAVELSOUTH SOUTHEASTWARD INTO THE EARLY OVERNIGHT HOURS. WITH DCAPE OVER1000 J/KG AND A 30 KT 0-3 KM SHEAR VECTOR ORIENTED NEARLYPARALLEL TO THE STORM MOTION VECTOR...EXPECT WIDESPREAD DAMAGINGWINDS FROM THIS MCS WITH WIND GUSTS OVER 80 MPH POSSIBLE. AGREEWITH THE CURRENT MODERATE RISK OUTLINE FROM SPC FOR THE GREATESTTHREAT IN OUR FORECAST AREA AT THIS TIME.IN ADDITION TO THE SEVERE WEATHER THREAT...HAVE ADDITIONAL CONCERNSABOUT FLASH FLOODING POTENTIAL CONSIDERING THE POTENTIAL FOR 2ROUNDS OF CONVECTION ACROSS AN AREA THAT HAS SEEN 400% OF NORMALPRECIPITATION IN THE PAST 30 DAYS. WILL HOIST A FLASH FLOOD WATCHFOR THE SOUTHWESTERN HALF OF THE FORECAST AREA WHERE 2 ROUNDS OFSTORMS ARE MOST LIKELY. IND .SHORT TERM /MONDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/...ISSUED AT 355 PM EDT SUN JUL 12 2015AFTER INITIAL STORMS CLEAR THE AREA MONDAY MORNING...EXPECT A LULLBEFORE FOCUS SHIFTS TO WIDESPREAD STORM DEVELOPMENT WHICH APPEARSLIKELY TO OUR NORTH AND NORTHWEST LATE MONDAY AFTERNOON INTO THEEVENING. POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR EXTREME INSTABILITY VALUESWHICH...WHEN COUPLED WITH MORE THAN ADEQUATE DEEP LAYER SHEARSUGGEST STORMS WILL RAPIDLY GO SEVERE. INITIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THENORTH AND NORTHWEST MAY BE DISCRETE BUT WILL LIKELY QUICKLYORGANIZE INTO A SEVERE MCS AND PERHAPS A DERECHO...WITH THEPOTENTIAL FOR WIDESPREAD WIND DAMAGE...LARGE HAIL...AND A FEWTORNADOES. MODERATE RISK IS WELL JUSTIFIED. ADDITIONALLY...ACONTINED VERY MOIST AIRMASS WILL MAKE HEAVY RAIN AND FLASHFLOODING A CONTINUED THREAT...THUS THE FLASH FLOOD WATCH WILLCONTINUE THROUGH 09Z TUESDAY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Can only imagine how humid that type of DP would feel like. It'll make the low/mid 70F dews here seem pleasant. I experienced 80+ in LAF multiple times. Instant perspiration once you step outside. Although honestly, it doesn't feel a whole lot different than dewpoints in the 70s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanDe680 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I experienced 80+ in LAF multiple times. Instant perspiration once you step outside. Although honestly, it doesn't feel a whole lot different than dewpoints in the 70s +1. Beyond 70 it's all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Six sites in Iowa, and two in Minnesota have dews AOA 80 currently. Many others in the 78-79 range as well. Since the models have a handle on today, it's looking like widespread 80-82 dews tomorrow as long as the morning convection doesn't mess things up too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Six sites in Iowa, and two in Minnesota have dews AOA 80 currently. Many others in the 78-79 range as well. Since the models have a handle on today, it's looking like widespread 80-82 dews tomorrow as long as the morning convection doesn't mess things up too much.I have some doubts about convective coverage into IA/IL tonight. Strong confidence in plenty of action up in MN, but trends lead me to lean toward less coverage with southward extent than some model guidance. I wouldn't rule out convective activity into N IL, but likely not enough to have much (if any) of a negative impact on tomorrow's setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewers Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Partial 20z MPX sounding....large cap in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherPimp Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 As I said earlier, as if the wind potential alone isn't a big enough threat tomorrow, combine the extremely saturated ground from inches upon inches of rain and you'll likely have widespread damage with significant uprooted trees and downed power lines/power poles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClicheVortex2014 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Gonna go work out, shave, shower, and get ready for action. These cells are gonna just explode. MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 1379NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK0349 PM CDT SUN JUL 12 2015AREAS AFFECTED...ERN SD...SW MN...FAR NW IACONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...WATCH LIKELYVALID 122049Z - 122215ZPROBABILITY OF WATCH ISSUANCE...80 PERCENTSUMMARY...SVR TSTMS CAPABLE OF DAMAGING WINDS...LARGE HAIL...ANDPOTENTIALLY A TORNADO OR TWO ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP ACROSS PART OFTHIS REGION. WHILE SOME UNCERTAINTY EXISTS REGARDING THE TIMING OFCONVECTIVE INITIATION...A WW WILL LIKELY BE NEEDED ONCE TSTMS DODEVELOP.DISCUSSION...RECENT SATELLITE IMAGERY DEPICTS A SHORTWAVE TROUGHMOVING THROUGH CNTRL SD. ASCENT FROM THIS SHORTWAVE IS CONTRIBUTINGTO THE ACCAS FIELD ALONG THE SD/MN BORDER AS WELL AS THE ELEVATEDTSTM ACTIVITY CURRENTLY ONGOING ACROSS WRN ND AND W-CNTRL MN.SURFACE ANALYSIS ALSO REVEALS A TROUGH AXIS EXTENDING FROM A LOWOVER SW MANITOBA THROUGH THE CNTRL DAKOTA. RECENT VISIBLE SATELLITEIMAGERY HAS RECENTLY SHOWN AN INCREASE IN CU ALONG THIS BOUNDARY.AIRMASS DOWNSTREAM OF THIS SURFACE BOUNDARY AND SHORTWAVE TROUGH ISVERY UNSTABLE WITH TEMPERATURES IN THE 90S...DEWPOINTS IN THE MID70S...AND MLCAPE ESTIMATED OVER 4000 J PER KG.THERE IS STILL SOME UNCERTAINTY AS TO WHEN CONVECTIVE INITIATIONOCCURS OVER THE AREA...ESPECIALLY SINCE IT APPEARS SOME MODEST LARGESCALE HEIGHT RISES ARE IMPINGING ON THE AREA. HOWEVER...GUIDANCE ISCONSISTENT THAT INITIATION DOES OCCUR. ONCE INITIATIONOCCURS...EXPLOSIVE TSTM DEVELOPMENT IS EXPECTED WITH STRONG UPDRAFTSAND SUFFICIENT SHEAR LEADING TO AN INITIAL SUPERCELL MODE. AS ARESULT...LARGE HAIL...DAMAGING WINDS AND TORNADOES ARE ALLPOSSIBLE.. TRENDS ACROSS THE REGION WILL BE MONITORED CLOSELY WITHWW ISSUANCE LIKELY NEEDED TO COVER THE EXPECTED SEVERE THREAT ONCEINITIATION APPEARS IMMINENT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppsRunner Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 As I said earlier, as if the wind potential alone isn't a big enough threat tomorrow, combine the extremely saturated ground from inches upon inches of rain and you'll likely have widespread damage with significant uprooted trees and downed power lines/power poles. Although it's quite a different scenario, Fort Wayne had tons of tree damage during that excessive rain/wind event a couple weeks ago. I'd imagine the 80mph gusts IWX is mentioning wouldn't bode well for places like IKK and really the entire region where record rainfall is occurring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClicheVortex2014 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 3 separate tornado warnings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanDe680 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 LOT hoisted flash flood watch. Any wind we have is going to up root trees, more so than snapping them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 Yeah...maybe this should have been a Tornado Watch instead, lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Marusak Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Yeah...maybe this should have been a Tornado Watch instead, lol... lol.PNG FGF tends to over-warn with tornado warnings (horrible false alarm rate). so i would take them with a grain of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indystorm Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Been looking at 500 mb and 700 mb maps and the instability gradient to see where these storms will round the curve and begin to move se. Or will other storms break the cap farther south and move se? HRRR vs. NAM and GFS as mentioned in a previous post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Yeah...maybe this should have been a Tornado Watch instead, lol... The interesting thing is that mesoanalysis indicates rather weak shear up there, on the order of 20kts or so in terms of bulk shear. Even low level helcity (0-1km) is fairly unimpressive with pockets of 50 m2s-2. The environment in Siouxland is much more impressive, but there are concerns with initiation and storm coverage. If a storm were to get going near the IA/MN/SD border and remain discrete, that would have a very high likelihood of dropping a tornado. The environment is currently characterized by 40-50kts bulk shear and 4000-5000 Jkg-1 MLCAPE, but to go along with initiation concerns, LCLs are rather high at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I'm not sure if this has been mentioned for tomorrow and maybe it's the NAM being its good old self, but the 18z run appears to be keeping winds a bit more backed across central Illinois. Some rather extreme hodographs (PDS TOR via SHARPpy) by 01-03z, however that may be a bit skewed by a convective contamination as it develops a low over northern Illinois. No doubt that tomorrow as high-end potential, even if it's only with a few storms. Concur with other thoughts about a full-out tornado outbreak being unlikely, but the environment should favor significant forms of all severe hazards, including strong tornadoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwestChaser Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 COD's launch from Wheaton, MN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 COD's launch from Wheaton, MN Wind fields are decent, but some capping hanging on and those LCLs will need to come down a bit for a more robust tornado threat. Glad they got a balloon up. MPX is really too far east to give a good sampling of what will happen in the initiation environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 COD's launch from Wheaton, MN Here's what the SPC's sounding shows for MPX at 20z (and things have gotten more unstable since this time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Marusak Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Here's what the SPC's sounding shows for MPX at 20z (and things have gotten more unstable since this time). yea, re-draw it for a spread of 32C temp, 25C dew point (last hr's obs at Flying Cloud, the metro airport closest to Chanhassen). lid's about to blow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Cu field popping up across far eastern South Dakota. Maybe we're getting close to some initiation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Found a decent satellite image covering that area. http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/minnesota/satellite-vis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppsRunner Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Found a decent satellite image covering that area. http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/minnesota/satellite-vis 430satellite_MN.png There's always a COD link too! http://climate.cod.edu/janis/satellite/1km/index.php?type=Minnesota-vis-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I'm not sure if this has been mentioned for tomorrow and maybe it's the NAM being its good old self, but the 18z run appears to be keeping winds a bit more backed across central Illinois. Some rather extreme hodographs (PDS TOR via SHARPpy) by 01-03z, however that may be a bit skewed by a convective contamination as it develops a low over northern Illinois. No doubt that tomorrow as high-end potential, even if it's only with a few storms. Concur with other thoughts about a full-out tornado outbreak being unlikely, but the environment should favor significant forms of all severe hazards, including strong tornadoes. The 18z NAM did have a more southerly component to the sfc winds, deepens the sfc low 4mb in 3hrs between 21-0z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Cu field popping up across far eastern South Dakota. Maybe we're getting close to some initiation. Storm going there Sisseton but it's in the more mixed air with SW sfc flow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonOH Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Elizabeth, MN is possibly getting hit by strong inflow, but the beam is at 9.5k feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Storm going there Sisseton but it's in the more mixed air with SW sfc flow Winds are veering across eastern SD and far southwestern MN. I'm further doubting the tornado potential near the IA/MN border. Could still get a few storms, but even there, I think the HRRR is grossly overdone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillsdaleMIWeather Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 SPC said other watch is coming soon, per twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 CoD trip 5 just reported a tornado to their northwest, with the area of strong rotation between Wapheton and Doran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClicheVortex2014 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.