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July 2015 Discussion & Observations


dmillz25

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Back from the left coast to a splendid day.

 

Midway thru July (where does the time go and where is the heat?)  Even steven

 

 

NYC: +0.7

EWR: -0.1

LGA: 0.0

JFK: +1.4

ISP:  +1.0

TTN: -0.4

PHL:  -.01

 

Can you help me understand how departures work? I look at the 'Past Observed Weather' on the weather.gov site.

This is what I see at TTN in the DEP column for the first 15 days of July:

1 -6 -3 -4 -1 2 6 5 1 1 1 1 2 0 -1

This adds up to +5.  The site has TTN as -0.1.  5/15 = 0.333   How are departures calculated?

 

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Can you help me understand how departures work? I look at the 'Past Observed Weather' on the weather.gov site.

This is what I see at TTN in the DEP column for the first 15 days of July:

1 -6 -3 -4 -1 2 6 5 1 1 1 1 2 0 -1

This adds up to +5.  The site has TTN as -0.1.  5/15 = 0.333   How are departures calculated?

 

The daily normal temperature is what is used for the departures...the normals are smoothed and are not the exact monthly averages...Todays departure in NYC was -5 but it was really -4.5...-4 max and -5 min...

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We're still managing to stay above normal despite a lack of big heat. Given we're expecting to heat up somewhat in a couple days, we're likely going to end up around +1 or higher region wide.

I guess a +1 is what qualifies as a cool summer these days. Just wait until the real heat returns in coming years. It'll make 2010 look like an ice age soon.

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We're still managing to stay above normal despite a lack of big heat. Given we're expecting to heat up somewhat in a couple days, we're likely going to end up around +1 or higher region wide.

I guess a +1 is what qualifies as a cool summer these days. Just wait until the real heat returns in coming years. It'll make 2010 look like an ice age soon.

What are you talking about? 2010 was the hottest summer on record in NYC, just beating out 1966. 2011 had the highest temperature since 1977 with a high of 104F in Central Park. Those are the exception, not the rule. Even in 2050 or 2100, Summer 2010 won't look like an "ice age" as you put it.

A +1 departure isn't what qualifies as a cool summer, even in today's somewhat warmer climate. June finishes like -0.5F at Central Park, and July will be near +1, so August will determine the summer anomaly. We have had some actual cold summers like 2000, 2004, 2009...those had months in the -3F category. 2014 was a cool summer with fewer than ten 90-degree days. NYC only has one this summer.

So, please stop pontificating about climate change and hot summmers. It hasn't been hot in 2015 or 2014.

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What are you talking about? 2010 was the hottest summer on record in NYC, just beating out 1966. 2011 had the highest temperature since 1977 with a high of 104F in Central Park. Those are the exception, not the rule. Even in 2050 or 2100, Summer 2010 won't look like an "ice age" as you put it.

A +1 departure isn't what qualifies as a cool summer, even in today's somewhat warmer climate. June finishes like -0.5F at Central Park, and July will be near +1, so August will determine the summer anomaly. We have had some actual cold summers like 2000, 2004, 2009...those had months in the -3F category. 2014 was a cool summer with fewer than ten 90-degree days. NYC only has one this summer.

So, please stop pontificating about climate change and hot summmers. It hasn't been hot in 2015 or 2014.

Hey, not everyone lives in Dobbs Ferry.

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Coming into the city today and I'm a bit worried about storms atm....any thoughts, particularly on the storms currently in C PA and also in NW NY?

Those storms in PA should miss to the south unless more develop on the way. Storms are expected to be scattered, one of those bring your umbrella in case days

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Models are showing the first shot at a 95 degree day this summer in Newark on Sunday.

The heat index is going to be high with dews in the low 70's.

 

Like 6/23 have to watch clouds I think this time is more likely, perhaps even to the park.  We shall see.  <ight have 3 or 4 of next 5 days at 90 in places.  Beyond there ridge comes, gets knocked down and goes up again in the longer range.  Looks overall warmer than normal thru 7/25

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