wisconsinwx Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 starting off warm downtown at 76 with filtered sun. effective warm front right at our doorstep now so flow should ramp up in a big way shortly As the expert prognosticator, what do you think will happen to those cells in SE Minnesota/NE Iowa out ahead of the main line? They are moving pretty slowly compared to the now ragged northern end of the line behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 As the expert prognosticator, what do you think will happen to those cells in SE Minnesota/NE Iowa out ahead of the main line? They are moving pretty slowly compared to the now ragged northern end of the line behind it. they will get absorbed into the main line which will eventually bow out (albiet in a diurnally weakened state) across S. WI and N. IL i expect re-strengthening of this feature just east across far S. MI, N. IN and perhaps into OH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue60007 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 MCS is well fed. Gusts upward of 70 mph coming in well behind the main line in SW MN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbertfly Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 starting off warm downtown at 76 with filtered sun. effective warm front right at our doorstep now so flow should ramp up in a big way shortly Dat flow indeed just picked considerably...just visually though with the bulky LL clouds...no precise measurment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargers09 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Trends look good IMO for two rounds. This MCS should clear us even in SE MI with plenty of time to destabilize once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbertfly Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 radar indicated "kink tor" along the line northeast of fort dodge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Trends look good IMO for two rounds. This MCS should clear us even in SE MI with plenty of time to destabilize once again. i'd be leery of 2 rounds in the northern/eastern risk area, back edge of the MCV is still nearly 600 miles from the western DTX cwa...forward motion should accelerate but still that's a long ways to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargers09 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 i'd be leery of 2 rounds in the northern/eastern risk area, back edge of the MCV is still nearly 600 miles from the western DTX cwa...forward motion should accelerate but still that's a long ways to go Definitely. Let me clarify, though. I was speaking about the second round coming from the WI/IL area. I'd imagine things grow upscale eventually from that direction and propogate eastward once again later in the day/towards the evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Perry Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 FWIW... I just walked through the garage to open one of the bay doors. I opened it and walked outside and It was like walking into a sauna. The air inside the garage is crisp and cool (shut the garage up at 11PM last night). I think it's safe to say DPs are on the rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlogin Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Just saw a LSR from Sheldon Ia.. AWOS showed a 95mph peak... Hanger destroyed, damage to planes and damage reported on the North side of Sheldon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 12z update from LOT...sounds like they are still low confidence with round 2 THE CONVECTIVE COMPLEX HAS TAKEN SHAPE OVER SOUTHERN MN ANDNORTHERN IA AND IT IS SLIDING SOUTHWEST TOWARD NORTHERN IL ANDSOUTHERN WI. THINKING THE COMPLEX WILL STAY TOGETHER AND SPREADACROSS NORTHERN IL LATE THIS MORNING INTO THE EARLY AFTERNOONHOURS. THERE IS A SLIGHT CHANCE THAT SOME OF THE STORMS MAY HAVEDAMAGING WIND. THERE IS ALSO A CHANCE THAT THE STORMS MAY FESTEROVER AND AROUND THE TERMINALS LONGER THAN CURRENTLY FORECAST.WINDS ARE ALREADY PICKING UP AND EXPECTING SOUTHWEST WINDS GUSTINGTO 30-35 KT THIS AFTN. A LOW CURRENTLY OVER THE CENTRAL PLAINSWILL DRIFT EAST AND EXPECTING ADDITIONAL TSRA DEVELOPMENT ALONGITS COLD FRONT THIS EVENING. HAVE LIMITED CONFIDENCE IN COVERAGEAND INTENSITY OF THESE STORMS. THIS MORNINGS ROUND OF STORMS MAYLIMIT CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT THIS EVENING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Growing increasingly confident that the mcs will be the main show, especially east. Despite unfavorable diurnal timing, lots of support remains in place and it should remain healthy enough to reflare with better heating. Could see an impressive wind threat develop as it rides ese and eventually se along the effective warm front. further west, southern outflow should set off some huge hp supes +1. Thinking the same thing. I think there might be some strong storms later though. MCS might decrease the large hail and tornado threat for far northern IL and S WI. 71/68 currently. That's one big cold pool forming on the backside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 i'd be leery of 2 rounds in the northern/eastern risk area, back edge of the MCV is still nearly 600 miles from the western DTX cwa...forward motion should accelerate but still that's a long ways to goEven action from the first round is still not a 100% lock.It depends on how fast the instability gradient moves northward, and also if the MCS can maintain itself (via a cold pool) despite outrunning the better dynamics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Eve action from the first round is still not a 100% lock. It depends on how fast the instability gradient moves northward, and also if the MCS can maintain itself (via a cold pool) despite outrunning the better dtnamics. true, complete shutout still on the table for YBY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 New MD MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 1116 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK0742 AM CDT MON JUN 22 2015AREAS AFFECTED...EAST-CENTRAL AND SOUTHEAST MN...NORTHERN ANDEASTERN IA...WEST-CENTRAL/SOUTHWEST AND SRN WI AND PART OF NRN ILCONCERNING...SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH 328...329...330...VALID 221242Z - 221415ZTHE SEVERE WEATHER THREAT FOR SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH328...329...330...CONTINUES.SUMMARY...STRONG AND DAMAGING WINDS REMAIN A THREAT ACROSS SOUTHEASTAND EAST-CENTRAL MN...NORTHEAST IA AND WEST-CENTRAL/SOUTHWEST WI.STORMS CONTINUING TO DEVELOP NEAR AND NORTH OF A WARM FRONT FROMSOUTHEAST MN THROUGH NORTHEAST IA AND SOUTHWEST WI AHEAD OF THE BOWWILL POSE A THREAT FOR LARGE HAIL AND DAMAGING WINDS. INADDITION...STRONG TO SEVERE N/NWLY WIND GUSTS REMAIN A POTENTIALTHREAT ATTENDANT TO A WAKE LOW WEST OF THE BOW.A NEW WW MAY BE NEEDED DOWNSTREAM OF THE BOW AS IT SHOULD PROGRESSE/SEWD THIS MORNING INTO PARTS OF ERN IA...SRN WI AND NRN IL.DISCUSSION...AT 12Z...MOSAIC RADAR IMAGERY INDICATED A COMPLEXDISPLAY OF STORMS ACROSS CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN MN INTO NORTHERN IAAND DEVELOPING EWD INTO WEST-CENTRAL AND SOUTHWEST WI. A BOWEXTENDED FROM NEAR OR JUST SOUTH OF THE TWIN CITIES METRO SSWWD INTONORTH-CENTRAL IA AND WAS MOVING TO THE EAST/EAST-SOUTHEAST AT 50-60KT. A 50 KT SWLY LLJ AS SAMPLED BY THE DMX/OAX WSR-88D/S WILLRESULT IN FURTHER STRONG LOW-LEVEL WAA AND A FEED OFMODERATELY-STRONG INSTABILITY INTO THE SRN EXTENT OF THE UPPER MSVALLEY MCS.A VERY STRONG /AROUND 90 KT/ AND DESCENDING REAR-INFLOW JET ASOBSERVED EARLIER WITH THE FSD WSR-88D INDICATED WILL CONTINUE TOENHANCE THE SEVERE AND DAMAGING WIND THREAT WITH THE BOW.OTHERWISE...STORMS WILL ALSO CONTINUE TO DEVELOP NEAR A WARM FRONTIN SOUTHEAST MN/NORTHEAST IA INTO SWRN AND SRN WI THIS MORNING ASTHIS FRONT MOVES TO THE NORTH. GIVEN THE POTENTIAL FOR THE PORTIONOF THE BOW IN NORTH-CENTRAL IA TO SPREAD INTO ERN IA/SRN WI AND NRNIL AFTER 14Z...A NEW WW MAY NEED TO BE ISSUED THIS MORNING...SOUTHTHROUGH EAST OF WW 330...PETERS.. 06/22/2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Looks like we'll have at least a couple hours of clear skies. That can't hurt. Air did actually feel "storm's a brewin'" like this morning, despite dew around 60*F and temps in the low/mid 60s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCNYILWX Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I'm here at LOT. Tough call on the morning MCS. 850-300 mb mean winds and Corfidi vectors argue that maybe our northern tier gets clipped. But boundary layed out, assuming it doesn't get completely washed out, could make things interesting later. 11z HRRR actually brings a beastly looking cell into northern IL early afternoon on trailing portion of the complex. Edit: 12z HRRR is looking like it's doing the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 frankthetank is going to get wake low'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 New day 1 outlook expanded the enhanced risk a bit further south (includes LAF now, barely). Possible later upgrade to Moderate Risk mentioned. DAY 1 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK0754 AM CDT MON JUN 22 2015VALID 221300Z - 231200Z...THERE IS AN ENH RISK OF SVR TSTMS OVER A PART OF THE UPPERMIDWEST AND UPPER GREAT LAKES REGION......THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS SURROUNDING THE ENH RISK FROMTHE UPPER MS AND LOWER MO VALLEYS EWD THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES......THERE IS A MRGL RISK OF SVR TSTMS SURROUNDING THE SLGT RISK FROMTHE UPPER MS AND LOWER MO VALLEYS EWD THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES......THERE IS A MRGL RISK OF SVR TSTMS OVER A PORTION OF THE SERNSTATES......SUMMARY...SEVERE STORMS CAPABLE OF INTENSE...DAMAGING OUTFLOW WINDS...STRONGTORNADOES AND VERY LARGE HAIL ARE PROBABLE OVER THE UPPER MIDWESTAND GREAT LAKES REGION TODAY THROUGH TONIGHT....SYNOPSIS...A POLAR-BRANCH SHORT-WAVE TROUGH FROM MANITOBA INTO THE DAKOTAS WILLAMPLIFY AND GRADUALLY ASSUME A SLIGHT NEGATIVE TILT AS IT TRANSLATESTHROUGH THE GREAT LAKES AND ONTARIO. THIS SYSTEM WILL BE ATTENDEDBY A 70-80 KT MID-LEVEL JET STREAK AND CORRIDOR OF 50-100 M/12-HRHEIGHT FALLS AT 500 MB WHICH WILL OVERSPREAD THE GREAT LAKES LATERTODAY INTO TONIGHT.AT THE SURFACE...AN ASSOCIATED AREA OF LOW PRESSURE WILL DEEPENWHILE DEVELOPING FROM SWRN MN INTO ERN ONTARIO/WRN QUEBEC BY12Z/TUESDAY. A WARM FRONT WHICH WILL BE MODULATED BY CONVECTIVEOUTFLOW ATTENDANT TO EARLY-DAY STORMS WILL ATTEMPT TO MOVE NWD INTOTHE GREAT LAKES WHILE A TRAILING COLD FRONT SWEEPS EWD THROUGH THEUPPER MS VALLEY AND UPPER GREAT LAKES. THE TRAILING EXTENSION OFTHIS FRONT WILL MOVE MORE SLOWLY SEWD THROUGH THE MID/LOWER MOVALLEY AND CNTRL PLAINS....UPPER MIDWEST EWD THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES AND NRN OH VALLEY...A COMPLEX-STRUCTURED MCS ONGOING OVER SRN MN/NRN IA WILL CONTINUEEWD ALONG THE SYNOPTIC WARM FRONT THROUGH PORTIONS OF CNTRL/SRN WIAND NRN IL THIS MORNING...AND EVENTUALLY INTO LOWER MI BY AFTERNOON.THIS SYSTEM HAS A WELL-DEFINED MCV WITH THE FSD VAD INDICATING60-80 KT WINDS WITHIN THE DESCENDING REAR-INFLOW JET AT 1 KM AGL.GIVEN THE VERY MOIST AND MODERATELY UNSTABLE AIR MASS FEEDING INTOTHIS SYSTEM ALONG A 40-50+ KT SWLY LLJ...EXPECT DAMAGING WINDPOTENTIAL TO PERSIST...AND POSSIBLY INCREASE LATER TODAY AS THEBOUNDARY LAYER WARMS AND DESTABILIZES.DUE TO THE EXPANSIVE COLD POOL GENERATED BY THE MCS...CONSIDERABLEUNCERTAINTY REMAINS WITH REGARD TO THE INTENSITY AND LOCATION OFDIURNALLY ENHANCED TSTM DEVELOPMENT THIS AFTERNOON. A NUMBER OFCONVECTION-ALLOWING MODELS SUGGEST THAT STORMS WILL REDEVELOP BYEARLY AFTERNOON ALONG THE COLD FRONT FROM PORTIONS OF W-CNTRL WIINTO N-CNTRL/NERN IA AS LARGE-SCALE FORCING FOR ASCENT/DCVAOVERSPREADS THE AREA. WHILE THE CHARACTER OF THE THERMODYNAMICENVIRONMENT REMAINS UNCLEAR...BOTH LOW-LEVEL AND DEEP-LAYER SHEARWILL BE QUITE STRONG /I.E. EFFECTIVE VALUES OF BULK SHEAR AND SRH OF50-60 KT AND 300-400 M2 PER S2...RESPECTIVELY/ AND SUPPORTIVE OFSUPERCELLS CAPABLE OF LARGE HAIL AND TORNADOES /SOME POSSIBLYSTRONG/...NAMELY OVER CNTRL/SRN WI INTO NERN IA AND NRN IL.OTHER STORMS MAY DEVELOP LATER TODAY FROM THE VICINITY OF THE COLDFRONT EWD ALONG THE OUTFLOW BOUNDARY TRAILING THE EARLY-DAY MCS FROMPORTIONS OF IA INTO NRN IL. AND WHILE A FAVORABLE OVERLAP OF3000-4000+ J/KG MLCAPE AND STRONG VERTICAL SHEAR WILLEXIST...PRONOUNCED CAPPING /SEE THE 12Z OAX SOUNDING/ MAY BECOMEPROBLEMATIC TO STORM DEVELOPMENT...ESPECIALLY IF THE BOUNDARYCONTINUES TO SETTLE SWD. AS SUCH...A CONDITIONAL RISK FORSUPERCELLS CAPABLE OF VERY LARGE HAIL...A FEW TORNADOES AND DAMAGINGWINDS WILL EXIST GIVEN DIURNAL STORM DEVELOPMENT AND SUSTENANCE.BY THIS EVENING...ONGOING STORMS ALONG THE COLD FRONT MAYCONSOLIDATE INTO A MIXED-MODE MCS /I.E. EMBEDDED SUPERCELLS ANDBOWS/ WITH THE THREAT FOR DAMAGING WINDS...LARGE HAIL AND POSSIBLY ATORNADO OR TWO SPREADING SEWD ACROSS CNTRL/SRN LOWER MI AND PORTIONSOF IL...IND...OH. THIS MCS MAY AFFECT PARTS OF THE LOWER GREATLAKES LATE TONIGHT INTO EARLY TUESDAY.AN UPGRADE TO A MODERATE RISK REMAINS POSSIBLE IN LATER DAY ONEOUTLOOKS...ONCE MESOSCALE DETAILS REGARDING THE DESTABILIZATIONPROCESS IN THE WAKE OF THE MCS BECOME MORE CLEAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I'm here at LOT. Tough call on the morning MCS. 850-300 mb mean winds and Corfidi vectors argue that maybe our northern tier gets clipped. But boundary layed out, assuming it doesn't get completely washed out, could make things interesting later. 11z HRRR actually brings a beastly looking cell into northern IL early afternoon on trailing portion of the complex. i think the southern part of the bow crosses right over the heart of the metro...if you're right and it only skirts the northern fringe this afternoon becomes much more interesting. I fully expect to see a beautiful shelf from a weakening bow lout my window later this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 nice write up with the new D1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 A couple storms along the surging warm front woke me up early this morning. The first got me, but was modest and pretty small, the second one had large hail and just missed to the north of the city. The big MCS should largely miss north as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargers09 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Newest day 1 looks pretty great. Mentioned upgrade to mod once details are ironed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbertfly Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 hatched tor expanded decently also... initiation of the stronger storms later have always been progged in and around 00z with the strengthening slp....I think tonight will provide a fine show still...regardless of the MCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCNYILWX Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 i think the southern part of the bow crosses right over the heart of the metro...if you're right and it only skirts the northern fringe this afternoon becomes much more interesting. I fully expect to see a beautiful shelf from a weakening bow lout my window later this morning. Not seeing much evidence of southeastward bowing yet. Also can't rule out it either weakening over us or being prevented from developing further south as the EML gets advected in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Perry Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Looks like we'll have at least a couple hours of clear skies. That can't hurt. Air did actually feel "storm's a brewin'" like this morning, despite dew around 60*F and temps in the low/mid 60s. I can't believe it. This is the first morning in weeks that features full sun - good for later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE QUAD CITIES IA IL 836 AM CDT MON JUN 22 2015 .TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON .DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE. ..REMARKS.. 0831 AM NON-TSTM WND GST INDEPENDENCE 42.47N 91.89W 06/22/2015 M93.90 MPH BUCHANAN IA EMERGENCY MNGR HIGH SCHOOL ON WEST SIDE OF INDEPENDENCE MEASURED SUSTAINED WIND SPEEDS OF 93.9 MPH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE QUAD CITIES IA IL 836 AM CDT MON JUN 22 2015 .TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON .DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE. ..REMARKS.. 0831 AM NON-TSTM WND GST INDEPENDENCE 42.47N 91.89W 06/22/2015 M93.90 MPH BUCHANAN IA EMERGENCY MNGR HIGH SCHOOL ON WEST SIDE OF INDEPENDENCE MEASURED SUSTAINED WIND SPEEDS OF 93.9 MPH. hell yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 MPX talking about a wake low trailing behind the existing MCS. High wind warning up - Worthington, MN (along 90 in the SW part of the state) went to 74mph . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanDe680 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Looks like the winds will bow this line out enough to clip the city.... I'd say 12-1pm, hopefully gone by 2 in order to recover nicely. Could make for a good setup come 5-6pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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