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June 20-21 and June 24-27 Heavy Rain/Severe Threats


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Storms in W IA are really all thats going on, CAPE is low here and only at 1,000 currently in IA.  Nothing to get excited about.

 

The sun is out here, but its not that muggy at all - in fact dewpoint is 59....  Looks to be more like a soaker than a stormer

SPC surprisingly still seems adamant about the Warm front lifting enough to enable all of the enhanced to be in the severe weather threat. 

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It's almost noon and winds are still out of the northeast at a pretty good clip (10kt). Hell, even Columbia, MO still has NE winds. Warm front has definitely struggled to lift north this morning. If that pile of activity over E. NE and SW IA gets going, it's going to ride much further south than originally progged. Basically, no guidance had a decent handle on this morning's convection (except the 00Z 4km WRF-NMM) and the monkey wrench is currently in the air.

Noon obs still show winds north of east at Columbia and Boonville. Almost have to wonder if the SPC shift S wasn't enough.
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Latest HRRR shows an interesting scenario.  The current complex in far western IA stretches out a trail of sups on it's southwest flank over south-central/southeast IA by late afternoon.  Now that I can believe.  Very impressive tor parameters in that area by then.  The northeasterlies at Columbia MO are from a shallow outflow boundary, and that should mix out in next few hours.  Winds north of there are already ripping out of the southeast.  

 

From a chasing perspective the smartest choice may be to play the southern end of that complex, where it will have access to the building buoyancy to the south/southwest, and tons of SRH.  The later (main) show this evening looks like more of an elevated event north of the front.  Don't know if we see anything surface-based behind this ongoing complex.  Tough forecast.

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FXUS63 KLOT 241718

AFDLOT

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL

1218 PM CDT WED JUN 24 2015

.UPDATE...

1217 PM CDT

ALL INDICATIONS THIS MORNING CONTINUE TO POINT TO A CLASSIC TYPE

HEAVY RAIN EVENT ACROSS THE AREA. THE THREAT OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS

IS ALSO DECENT WITH THIS ACTIVITY AS WELL LATER THIS EVENING...AND

THIS PRIMARILY LOOKS TO BE IN THE FORM OF STRONG STRAIGHT LINE WINDS.

SHOWERS...WITH SOME EMBEDDED THUNDERSTORMS CONTINUE TO WEAKEN OVER

CENTRAL ILLINOIS AS THEY MOVE AWAY FROM THE BETTER FOCUS OF LAST

NIGHTS LOW LEVEL JET. SATELLITE IMAGERY CONTINUES TO INDICATE CLOUD

TOPS WARMING WITH THIS ACTIVITY...AND EVEN INDICATES SOME BREAKS IN

THE CLOUDS OVER FAR NORTHERN ILLINOIS. FARTHER WEST...HOWEVER...AN

AREA OF CONVECTION OVER EASTERN NE AND NEAR FAR WESTERN IOWA

CONTINUES TO MAINTAIN ITSELF. IT IS CERTAINLY POSSIBLE THAT THIS

ACTIVITY COULD CONTINUE TO MOVE EAST OVER IOWA INTO THIS

AFTERNOON...THEN SHIFT MORE SOUTHEAST ALONG THE MLCAPE GRADIENT. THIS

ACTIVITY...SHOULD IT MAINTAIN ITSELF THOUGH THE DAY...WOULD LIKELY

MISS MOST OF MY AREA...POSSIBLY ONLY IMPACTING MY SOUTHWESTERN

COUNTIES. SOME OF THE LATEST HRRR SOLUTIONS ARE IN LINE WITH THIS

THINKING.

OTHERWISE...THE FOCUS CONTINUES TO CENTER ON THIS EVENING THROUGH

THE OVERNIGHT FOR THE POTENTIAL OF VERY HEAVY RAIN AND FLASH

FLOODING. IT IS STILL ANTICIPATED THAT RENEWED CONVECTION WILL

DEVELOP LATER THIS AFTERNOON/EARLY THIS EVENING OVER PORTIONS OF

EASTERN IOWA INTO NORTHWESTERN ILLINOIS ALONG AND ON THE COOL SIDE

OF A NORTHWARD MOVING WARM FRONTAL BOUNDARY. THIS ACTIVITY WOULD

THEN LIKELY CONTINUE TO GROW UPSCALE AS RENEWED DEVELOPMENT

CONTINUES UPSTREAM THANKS TO A PERSISTENT SOUTHWESTERLY 40+ KT LOW

LEVEL JET CONTINUALLY REPLENISHING THE DEEP MOISTURE. THESE STORMS

WILL OCCUR WITHIN AROUND A 2 INCH PRECIPITABLE WATER

ENVIRONMENT...SO EXTREMELY HEAVY RAIN RATES WILL BE A HIGH CONCERN.

ALSO...WITH CONTINUAL UPSTREAM DEVELOPMENT LOOKING LIKELY...TRAINING

AND BACKBULDING OF CELLS COULD RESULT IN PROLONGED PERIODS OF THESE

VERY HEAVY RAIN RATES OCCURRING OVER THE SAME AREAS. AS SUCH...SOME

ISOLATED AREAS OVER THE AREA COULD EXPERIENCE 4-5+ INCH AMOUNTS OF

RAIN BEFORE THIS ACTIVITY ABATES LATER TONIGHT OR EARLY THURSDAY

MORNING. THERE ARE STILL SOME UNCERTAINTIES ON WHERE EXACTLY THE

HEAVIEST RAINFALL AMOUNTS WILL FALL. HOWEVER...WITH THE ACTIVITY

LIKELY TO MOVE EAST-SOUTHEAST WITH TIME...IT WOULD APPEAR THAT AREAS

ALONG AND SOUTH OF INTERSTATE 88 WOULD LIKELY STAND THE BEST

POTENTIAL TO EXPERIENCE RAINFALL AMOUNTS IN EXCESS OF 1 TO 2 INCHES.

WITHIN THESE TRAINING THUNDERSTORMS...THE KINEMATIC FIELDS OVER THE

AREA WILL ALSO LIKELY SUPPORT FORWARD PROPAGATING EAST-SOUTHEASTWARD

MOVING BOWING SEGMENTS OVER THE AREA. THEREFORE...STRONG DAMAGING

WINDS...PERHAPS IN EXCESS OF 70 MPH...WILL ALSO BE A THREAT WITH

THESE STORMS. A TORNADO OR TWO CAN ALSO NOT BE RULED OUT. HOWEVER...

THIS THREAT APPEARS TO BE THE HIGHEST OVER MY SOUTHEASTERN CWA THIS

EVENING IN CLOSER PROXIMATELY TO THE APPROACHING WARM FRONTAL

BOUNDARY.

KJB

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Against my better judgement took off of work and planned to chase today, and guess I still will despite the fairly murky prospect for success.  Probably one of the last chases of the season so why not.

 

Gonna go out and play the southern end of that incoming complex.  Could see a few sups take root there.  

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lol, so true.  

 

And yeah, sleep/rest is at a bare minimum right now. It's very taxing on everyone.

 

 

You might've already thought of this but if your parents don't have a generator, now would be a good time to get one.  Have had that problem before when helping out my mom...storm knocks out the power, there's a rush on generators and then you're kinda screwed with trying to get one.

 

Still enough variance in the model solutions for tonight, but even if IKK avoids high winds, gonna be tougher to avoid heavy rain.

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WPC moved the moderate excessive rainfall threat area further west and south, from this morning's update. Hopefully they're on to something. Regardless, some are gonna get smoked.

 

 

EXCESSIVE RAINFALL DISCUSSION

NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD
940 AM EDT WED JUN 24 2015

...VALID 15Z WED JUN 24 2015 - 12Z THU JUN 25 2015...
...REFERENCE AWIPS GRAPHIC UNDER...DAY 1 EXCESSIVE RAINFALL...


SLIGHT RISK OF RAINFALL EXCEEDING FFG TO THE RIGHT OF A LINE FROM
10 NE DPA 30 WSW ASW 10 NW AID 10 NNE BMG FOA 10 WNW CPS
35 N COU 10 WSW FNB 15 W FET 15 SSW SPW 10 S PDC 10 NE DPA.

MODERATE RISK OF RAINFALL EXCEEDING FFG TO THE RIGHT OF A LINE FROM
20 S LWD 10 SE RDK 15 NNW ADU 15 WNW MIW 10 N DVN 10 ESE C75
15 WSW CMI 15 SW TAZ 10 ESE UIN 20 S LWD.


...NEBRASKA / IOWA / ILLINOIS / MISSOURI / INDIANA...

CONCERNS FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL THIS PERIOD WILL BE FOCUSED WITHIN
THE SLIGHTLY ELEVATED FRONTAL ZONE FROM 925-850 MB ACROSS SOUTHERN
IOWA/ FAR NORTHERN MISSOURI / WEST-CENTRAL ILLINOIS...AND
EXTENDING INTO ADJACENT PARTS OF NEBRASKA AND INDIANA. THE 00Z
CYCLE OF MESOSCALE MODELS PRODUCED UNUSUALLY HIGH RAIN TOTALS
ACROSS THE BOARD. IN FACT...THE SSEO MEAN...AN AVERAGE OF SEVERAL
MODELS...PREDICTS 3 INCHES OF RAIN IN EASTERN IOWA THROUGH 12Z
THURSDAY. INDIVIDUAL MODELS PREDICT SMALLER SCALE...COUNTY
LEVEL...TOTALS OF 5 TO 7 INCHES. GIVEN THE OVERALL CONSISTENCY OF
THE PLACEMENT AND INTENSITY OF THE RAIN IN OUR PREFERRED MODELS
FOR THIS EVENT /WRF ARW---NMMB---NSSL WRF AND ECMWF / A MODERATE
RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IS FORECAST OVER MUCH OF SOUTHERN IOWA
/ FAR NORTHERN MISSOURI / WEST-CENTRAL ILLINOIS.

IN THE 15Z UPDATE THE SLIGHT AND MODERATE RISK AREAS WERE EXPANDED
WESTWARD...AND THE MODERATE RISK AREA WAS DROPPED SLIGHTLY
SOUTHWARD...ALL BASED ON OBSERVATIONAL TRENDS AND HRRR CAPE
FORECASTS. ONGOING ELEVATED CONVECTION THIS MORNING WAS FRACTURED
AND SHOULD NOT ENTIRELY INHIBIT THE NORTHWARD TRANSPORT OF
UNSTABLE AIR THROUGH NEBRASKA AND WESTERN IOWA. THE CONVECTION WAS
EXTENSIVE ENOUGH...HOWEVER...THAT THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW
FAR NORTHEAST THE UNSTABLE AIR WILL BE ABLE TO
DEVELOP...ESPECIALLY WITH THE HRRR NOW KEEPING THE CAPE AXIS MORE
NARROW AND CONFINED THROUGH EARLY EVENING. WPC TRIMMED THE EASTERN
PORTION OF THE MODERATE RISK TO REMOVE INDIANA AND EASTERN
ILLINOIS...AS INFLOW WILL BE MORE FOCUSED ON THE SOUTH AND WEST
SIDES OF THE CONVECTION TODAY/TONIGHT. THESE AREAS DO REMAIN
WITHIN THE SLIGHT RISK AREA AS THE EVENT WILL MIGRATE IN THAT
DIRECTION BY THURSDAY MORNING.

WITH WARM MID LEVEL TEMPERATURES AND DRIER AIR CAPPING THE
ENVIRONMENT NEAR THE SURFACE FRONT FROM SOUTHERN NEBRASKA TO
CENTRAL MISSOURI...LARGE SCALE CONVECTION IS EXPECTED FARTHER
NORTH...WHERE LOW LEVEL MOISTURE AND THETA-E ADVECTION WILL BE
MAXIMIZED. A LOW AMPLITUDE BUT WELL DEFINED MID LEVEL TROUGH WILL
ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO HEIGHT FALLS AND AN INCREASING AMOUNT OF UPPER
DIFFLUENCE THIS AFTERNOON/EVENING. THERE IS A LIKELIHOOD OF
TRAINING OF CELLS IN A WEST TO EAST DIRECTION ACROSS THE MODERATE
RISK AREA...ESPECIALLY IN THE 0000 TO 1200 UTC THURSDAY TIME FRAME
WHEN THE LOW LEVEL FLOW BECOMES INCREASINGLY ORIENTED WEST TO
EAST. ONE COMPLICATING FACTOR WAS AN ONGOING MCS IN NORTHERN
NEBRASKA WHICH HAD RACED AHEAD OF THE PRIMARY HEIGHT FALLS AND
TROUGH AXIS. THE MCS WAS RELATIVELY SMALL AND HAS SHOWN WEAKENING
TRENDS AS OF 13Z...BUT WARM ADVECTION MAY SUSTAIN SOME SEMBLANCE
OF AN MCS INTO THE AFTERNOON AS IT TRACKS TOWARD WESTERN IOWA.
THIS COULD BE A FACTOR IN DETERMINING TIMING AND FOCUS OF THE
FLASH FLOOD POTENTIAL...WHICH IS OTHERWISE EXPECTED TO INCREASE
DURING THE LOW LEVEL JET CYCLE OVERNIGHT. WITH ABOVE AVERAGE PW
VALUES ALONG THE ELEVATED FRONTAL ZONE...AND AN OVERALL FAVORABLE
PATTERN...WIDESPREAD HEAVY PRECIPITATION APPEARS LIKELY. EXPECT
SHORT TERM PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS OF 1-2" AND ISOLATED TOTALS OF
5"+ POSSIBLE.

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Against my better judgement took off of work and planned to chase today, and guess I still will despite the fairly murky prospect for success.  Probably one of the last chases of the season so why not.

 

Gonna go out and play the southern end of that incoming complex.  Could see a few sups take root there.  

 

 

Thats my most recent thinking too just stay south and hope for the WF to retreat further north....  I'd sit somewhere around Osceola, IA. Most recent iterations of the HRRR don't really convect anything significant behind/ south of this current MCS though... But there's no reason to not believe that the current MCS wouldn't leave behind an OFB to provide a focus point for a bit later as a secondary quasi-warm front, OR just reinforce the current warm front. 

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You might've already thought of this but if your parents don't have a generator, now would be a good time to get one.  Have had that problem before when helping out my mom...storm knocks out the power, there's a rush on generators and then you're kinda screwed with trying to get one.

 

Still enough variance in the model solutions for tonight, but even if IKK avoids high winds, gonna be tougher to avoid heavy rain.

 

That's good advice for sure. I finally talked them into calling/hiring a professional service too. Unfortunately, it looks like it's going to get worse before it gets better. 

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Iowa complex marching eastward, not showing any signs of making a turn yet.

 

 

I wonder when it will turn. Still marching E if not ENE

 

the warm front turns hard southeast towards the river...strong southerly flow under the complex will be cutoff soon and we'll see the  turn

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