LocoAko Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 (This could obviously also go in politics, but thought it'd do well here): http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2015/06/16/senate-bill-proposes-centralizing-weather-service-forecasting-into-6-regional-offices/?postshare=1311434483613350 Thoughts? Causing quite the stir on Twitter and other social media this AM... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 These people are out of their f*cking minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvantHiatus Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Every sub-region has micro-climates, etc. The system works well enough as it exists now, i'm sure most would agree. The government seems to have a habit of cutting back on programs that are not budget intensive. The NWS budget is 1% of military spending for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSUBlizzicane2007 Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 This is called the step to degradation of products that leads to privatization of weather services. Republicans just can't help themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isohume Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I got dibs on Super WFO San Diego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 (This could obviously also go in politics, but thought it'd do well here): http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2015/06/16/senate-bill-proposes-centralizing-weather-service-forecasting-into-6-regional-offices/?postshare=1311434483613350 Thoughts? Causing quite the stir on Twitter and other social media this AM... I strongly oppose it. I don't see any meaningful value created by such a move. On the other hand, it could impair the service the NWS currently provides, which is top-notch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Humidity Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Wow, getting local, that would end all interior Monmouth County NJ jackpot zone forecasts for winter storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 That is a horrible idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Central Illinois Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Horrible idea...I don't need someone from a regional office in Milwaukee to be issuing warnings during a tornado outbreak for the state of IL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 So 0.1% roughly of the military budget? The Republicans are pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainman Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Just more republican filth. This isn't going to go anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather.St Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 I was shocked when I heard this proposal. However, most of you are correct on how bad the forecasting would get if you centralized all the offices into 6 locations. It would be absurd for anyone with half a degree in meteorology to think that 6 locations could forecast for all regions around those locations. This became apparent during the super lake effect snow even where over 70 inches fell into the Buffalo area. These kind of mesoscale weather patterns cannot be derived from a location outside of the event. Therefore, having regional offices like we currently have seems to be a bit more reliable. In fact, I could make the argument that we need a couple more offices in certain areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isohume Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 On the bright side...no more enhanced near-term fcsts, aviation grids, or dorky public calls. Sign me up Scotty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillB Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 On the bright side...no more enhanced near-term fcsts, aviation grids, or dorky public calls. Sign me up Scotty. Sadly, we'd still be expected to do that. On orders by those who feel they know more about front-line operations than the people who actually work ops. After all, we can automate everything! (For those who don't get the joke, imagine generating 120 aviation forecasts (TAFs) per centralized office using: 1) model gridded data that routinely overforecasts IFR conditions, and 2) forecast formatters that are immature. The aviation community is going to be SO impressed!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocoAko Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 Update: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2015/06/22/senate-backs-off-nws-restructuring-proposal-puts-emphasis-on-severe-weather-communication/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Marusak Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 well, the screaming of the meteorological community must have meant at least something. that being said though, if the mandating of the changes in weather alerts were to go though, would we do warnings like proposed in facets? would warn-on-forecast actually be proposed as more than a longshot idea? and would congress cough up the cash for the actual computer power needed to go all-out warn-on-forecast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I say double the budget. And add 4 billion to NASAs budget. Let the nws and NASA to decide where the funding goes. A ballpark estimate that is like 0.25% of the military budget I think the military will continue on fine with 5 billion less per year. And more lives will be saved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isohume Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I'd like to see this call to action implemented... TO REPEAT...THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HAS ISSUED A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING CAPABLE OF PRODUCING LIFE THREATENING CONDITIONS IN YOUR AREA THROUGH 600 PM. IT IS NOW UP TO YOU TO MAKE WHATEVER DECISIONS YOU DEEM NECESSARY FOR THE SAFETY OF YOURSELF AND/OR YOUR FAMILY. WE WISH YOU WELL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biodhokie Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I say double the budget. And add 4 billion to NASAs budget. Let the nws and NASA to decide where the funding goes. A ballpark estimate that is like 0.25% of the military budget I think the military will continue on fine with 5 billion less per year. And more lives will be saved But, but the army needs those tanks built to populate the graveyard of current Abrams tanks. You don't want them to be lonely now do you? Think of those 90 jobs you put out of business! /s. In all seriousness though, agreed 100% with the quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApacheTrout Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I'd like to see this call to action implemented... TO REPEAT...THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HAS ISSUED A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING CAPABLE OF PRODUCING LIFE THREATENING CONDITIONS IN YOUR AREA THROUGH 600 PM. IT IS NOW UP TO YOU TO MAKE WHATEVER DECISIONS YOU DEEM NECESSARY FOR THE SAFETY OF YOURSELF AND/OR YOUR FAMILY. WE WISH YOU WELL. Maybe you could add: IF YOU'D LIKE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE AND WHEN THE SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WILL HIT, PLEASE $UB$CRIBE TO ACCUWEATHER WHERE YOU CAN ACCESS RADAR PRODUCTS AND WEATHER MODELS THAT YOUR TAX DOLLARS HAVE ALREADY PAID FOR... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 This is a terrible idea and I am a federal government executive who is a proponent of consolidation in the federal space. It's just a bad idea on so many levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 This is the America and the world. How cut and save $$$$$. You better go back to school and get PHD....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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