arlwx Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Link to summary and interview: http://www.npr.org/2015/06/01/410291173/10-years-since-katrina-a-look-back-at-the-busiest-hurricane-season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arlwx Posted June 2, 2015 Author Share Posted June 2, 2015 Dr. Knabb also was featured on C-SPAN Monday. Unidentified Speaker RICHARD NOW BY PHONE, THE NATION'S TOP 00:00:16 HOST HURRICANE FORECASTER. DR. KNABB THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. WHAT ARE WE IN FOR THIS YEAR GUEST:? ONE THING I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND IS THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WE MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT SEE OVERALL. HOW BUSY IT MIGHT BE IN THE GOAL FOR THE CARIBBEAN, AND HOW BAD IT COULD BE WHERE YOU LIVE. OVERALL, THE MOST LIKELY SCENARIO WILL BE A BELOW AVERAGE YEAR, BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE ME FEEL ANY BETTER IN TERMS OF WHAT MIGHT ACTUALLY HAPPEN OR HOW BAD YEAR I NEED TO HAVE SEEN MULTIPLE TIMES BELOW AVERAGE YEARS WITH VERY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT. 1992, HURRICANE ANDREW WAS IN A BELOW AVERAGE YEAR OVERALL. 1983 WAS ALICIA. I WENT THROUGH THAT IN HOUSTON AND THERE WERE ONLY FOUR TOTAL STORMS THAT YEAR, BUT ONE MAJOR HURRICANE THAT YEAR. I PREPARE EVERY YEAR FOR HURRICANE SEASON, BECAUSE NO ONE CAN TELL YOU WHAT WILL BE OR WON'T BE HIT. HOST: WHAT DOES A BELOW AVERAGE YEAR MEAN IN TERMS OF EXPECTED NUMBERS, AND WHY IS THAT THE PREDICTION THIS YEAR? GUEST: 00:01:42 HOST ONE THING DRIVING THE SEASONAL FORECAST IS THE PHENOMENA IN KNOWN AS EL NINO -- THE PHENOMENON KNOWN AS EL NINO AND THAT 00:01:51 GUEST IS WARMING THE TEMPERATURES IN THE PACIFIC OCEAN. IT HAS AN EFFECT ON THE CARIBBEAN AND ATLANTIC SIDE. ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL, YOU TEND TO SEE LESS HURRICANE ACTIVITY ON THE ATLANTIC SIDE IN EL NINO YEARS. BUT AGAIN, EVEN IN THE -- WITH THE NUMBERS DOWN, THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE HURRICANES THAT DO FORM CANNOT HIT LAND. HOST: YOU HAVE BEEN WITH NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER FOR ABOUT A DECADE NOW. ARE WE GETTING MORE ACCURATE IN OUR PRODUCTIONS? -- OUR PREDICTIONS? 00:02:25 HOST GUEST: THIS WILL BE MY 12 YEAR OVERALL WITH THE CENTER AND WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CONTINUE REDUCING THE FORECAST ERRORS WITH REGARD TO FORECASTING WHERE THE SYSTEMS ARE GOING TO GO. 00:02:37 GUEST WE HAVE STILL NOT MADE THE IMPROVEMENTS WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON FORECASTING INTENT THE. HOW -- THE INTENSITY, HOW STRONG THE CURRENT CANES WILL BE -- WITH FORECASTING THE INTENSITY, HOW STRONG THE HURRICANES WILL BE. WE DO HAVE SOME ENHANCED COMPUTER FORECAST MODELS AVAILABLE TO US OPERATIONALLY THIS YEAR. AND OVER THE NECK SEVERAL YEARS -- THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS WE ARE OPTIMISTIC WE WILL BE ABLE TO REDUCE THE INTENSITY FORECAST ERRORS, BUT THERE IS STILL A LOT OF WORK TO DO. REGARDLESS, I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE WITHIN MY CAREER THAT WE WILL HAVE A PERFECT FORECAST. WHAT WE DO IS ALSO EMPHASIZED THE IMPORTANCE OF COMMUNICATING THE FORECAST HAZARDS AND WHERE THEY COULD OCCUR AND WITH ENOUGH CERTAINTIES SUCH THAT PEOPLE NEED TO BE RESPONDING. WE HAVE A COLLECTION OF PRODUCTS AND WARNINGS THAT SHOW YOU WHERE THE WIND COULD OCCUR AND WHERE THE STORMS COULD OCCUR IN REAL TIME. BUT THE REST FORECAST, THE WARNINGS AND THE EVACUATION INSTRUCTIONS ACED ON THAT INFORMATION, ALL OF THAT WILL NOT BE AS GOOD AS IT COULD BE IF INDIVIDUALS DO NOT PREPARE IN ADVANCE. WE ARE WANTING FOLKS TO PREPARE FOR WHAT THEY CAN DO TODAY TO GET READY FOR THE NEXT HURRICANE. HOST: AND DR. KNABB, BEFORE WE LET YOU GO, WITH HAVE HEARD YOU -- WE HAVE HEARD YOU SAY YOU WANT PEOPLE TO FOCUS LESS ON THE CATEGORY OF THE STORM AND MORE ON THE INDIVIDUAL 00:04:11 HOST THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN TO THEM. GUEST: WE HAVE SEEN THAT YEARS. WITHOUT A BREAKING CANADA -- WITHOUT A CATEGORY THREE OR STRONGER, MOST OF THE 00:04:24 GUEST IMPACT IS FATALITY DUE TO WATER. STORM SURGE IS THE BIGGEST KILLER. THAT IS WHY I WOULD URGE FOLKS TO START TODAY BY FINDING OUT IF YOU LIVE AND -- IN AN EVACUATION ZONE. FIGURE OUT TODAY WHERE YOU WOULD GO AND HOW YOU WOULD GET THERE IS TOLD TO EVACUATE. -- IF TOLD TO EVACUATE. HOST: DR. KNABB, *The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning. People in this video Richard KnabbDirectorNational Weather Service->National Hurricane Center John McArdleHostC-SPAN Federal Disaster Relief 2015 Hurricane Season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arlwx Posted June 2, 2015 Author Share Posted June 2, 2015 Followed on C-SPAN by Michael Greenberger re disaster response. John McArdle WE ARE JOINED BY MICHAEL BRING BACK -- MICHAEL GREENBERGER. WE WANT TO DISCUSS HOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GIVES MONEY TO STATE AFTER NATIONAL DISASTERS OCCUR. -- NATURAL DISASTERS OCCUR. WITH THE FLOODING THAT HAPPEN IN TEXAS THIS PAST WEEK, CAN USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE TO TALK ABOUT HOW THE MONEY GOES TO RECOVERY? GUEST: YES, AND I SHOULD SAY FIRST, IN A NORMAL NONMAJOR DISASTER SITUATION, THE WAY THE GOVERNMENT IS 00:00:45 I. Michael Greenberger STRUCTURED, WE LOOK FIRST TO OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO SEE OF THEY CAN RESPONSE. -- CAN RESPOND. IF THEY CANNOT RESPOND, THEN WE LOOK TO THE STATES. WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE TEXAS AND OKLAHOMA STORM SITUATION LAST WEEK, THE DISASTER IS BEYOND THE CAPABILITIES OF THE STATE TO DEAL WITH WITHIN ITS OWN PERSONNEL. WHAT HAPPENED -- WHAT HAPPENS WITH WHEN THE STATE IS OVERWHELMED WITH THE KIND OF RESPONSE THEY SAW, THEY MAKE UP AN APPLICATION FOR RELIEF FUNDING. THE GOVERNOR DECLARES A STATE OF EMERGENCY WITHIN THE STATE AND THE STATE DECLARES -- PREPARES AN ACCURATE PATIENT -- PREPARES AN APPLICATION. THE PRESIDENT IS THE ONE WHO MAKES THE DECISION WHETHER OR NOT A MAJOR DISASTER SHOULD BE DECLARED. AND ON SATURDAY, PRESIDENT OBAMA DID DECLARE A MAJOR DISASTER IN THOSE AREAS. AND WHAT THAT DOES IS MAKE AVAILABLE TO THOSE STATES MONEYS IN THE SO-CALLED DISASTER RELIEF FUND, WHICH IS MONEY APPROPRIATED BY CONGRESS TO RESPOND TO MAJOR DISASTERS. DECISIONS ARE THEN MADE I FEMA ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY IS NEEDED AND HOW MUCH SHOULD BE USED WITHIN THOSE STATES. HOST: AND THIS IS OUR WEEKLY YOUR MONEY SEGMENT. LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY IS IN THAT FEMA DISASTER FUND. FISCAL 2013, $18 BILLION. 00:02:29 John McArdle THAT WAS FOR SOME OF THE RECOVERY EFFORTS AFTER HURRICANE HEADED. 13 GOING DOLLARS IN 2012. $45 BILLION IN 2005 WITH THE SERIES OF HURRICANES, KATRINA, RITA, AND WILMA. HOW DOES FEMA MAKE A DETERMINATION FOR WHO IS ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE THOSE DOLLARS FROM THAT FUND? GUEST: THE FIRST THING THAT HAS TO BE EMPHASIZES THAT THE PRESIDENT AND CONGRESS HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION TO HOW MUCH MONEY WILL BE IN THE FUND. THAT HAS PROVEN TO BE A TRICKY PROPOSITION. WE SAW DURING 00:03:03 I. Michael Greenberger SUPERSTORM SANDY THAT THE FUND WAS DEFLATED. THERE WAS A NEED FOR SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION. IT BECAME A POLITICAL PROCESS AND EVENTUALLY $60 BILLION BECAME APPROPRIATED. 2005, 2 THOUSAND SIX, YOU HAVE HURRICANE KATRINA. 2012 AND 2013 YOU HAVE SUPERSTORM STANDING. IT SHOULD BE -- SUPERSTORM SANDY. IT SHOULD BE EMPHASIZED THAT IN THE EARLY YEARS WE WERE TALKING TO BULLION DOLLARS TO $4 BILLION IN THE FUND. FOR HURRICANE KATRINA, WE HAD TO APPROPRIATE $120 BILLION TO RESPOND TO THAT MASSIVE DISASTER , AND SUPERSTORM SANDY, $60 BILLION. AND AS DR. KNABB SAID, IT WOULD BE VERY HARD TO PREDICT. HE PREDICTS IS LOWER SEASON, BUT IT IS DIFFICULT BECAUSE THE INDIVIDUAL INTENSITIES OF THESE DORMS -- STORMS IS UNPREDICTABLE. FOR EXAMPLE, WITH OKLAHOMA AND TEXAS, THE ROADS ARE STILL UNDER WATER. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TOTAL NEEDS ARE GOING TO BE OF THOSE THREE STATES. THERE IS A QUESTION AS TO WHATEVER MONEY WE HAVE IN THE FUND WILL BE ENOUGH AND IF IT'S NOT ENOUGH, THEN CONGRESS WILL HAVE TO SUPPLEMENT THOSE AMOUNTS TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE. AND THOSE PIECES OF LEGISLATION HAVE BECOME VERY CONTROVERSIAL. WE HAVE THE IRONIC SITUATION, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR MONEY TO BE APPROPRIATED FOR SUPERSTORM SANDY, SENATOR CRUZ IN TEXAS OPPOSE THE APPROPRIATION. NOW HE IS ACTIVELY SEEKING AND GOT A DECLARATION FROM THE PRESIDENT BECAUSE HIS OWN STATE IS UNDER SERIOUS SIEGE. HE OFFERS FOR HIS WISHING THIS. -- FOR DISTINGUISHING THIS. BUT IF ANYTHING, THE INTENSITY OF THE DISASTERS, AND THE FREQUENCY OF THE DISASTERS, ARE DEMONSTRATING THAT WE WILL BE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY IN THE FUTURE AND THE RATE OF INCREASE THAT WE HAVE BEEN, FOR EXAMPLE, SINCE 1990 WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE. HOST: MICHAEL GREENBERGER IS OUR GUEST IN THIS SEGMENT OF THE "WASHINGTON JOURNAL" TALKING ABOUT FUNDING FOR DISASTER 00:05:43 John McArdle RELIEF FOR FEMA SPECIFICALLY, BUT WE ARE HAPPY TO TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS. REPUBLICANS -- THE NUMBERS ARE ON THE SCREEN. WE WILL START ON OUR LINE FOR DEMOCRATS, CAROL CALLING IN FROM OHIO. GOOD MORNING. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. I HAVE A COMMENT ON THIS FEDERAL ASSISTANCE FOR TEXAS. IT HAS LIMITED TO OR THREE MONTHS AGO THAT THE TEXAS 00:06:13 CALLER GOVERNOR ACTIVATED THE NATIONAL GUARD BECAUSE HE GOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS GOING TO GO AFTER TEXAS. AND NOW, THEY WANT MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. I THINK THEY'RE A BUNCH OF HYPOCRITES. THANK YOU. HOST: TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE POLITICS THAT YOU WERE REFERENCING JUST NOW. GUEST: YES, I THINK THE LESSON THAT WILL BE LEARNED IS NO MATTER HOW WEALTHY ACE EIGHT IS, NO MATTER HOW -- A STATE IS, NO MATTER 00:06:40 John McArdle HOW WEALTHY THE INDIVIDUALS IN A STATE ARE, THIS 00:06:45 I. Michael Greenberger IS A SITUATION WHERE YOU CANNOT HAVE A GATED COMMUNITY THAT EXEMPT YOU FROM DISASTER. JOHN DONNE SAID, FORMING THE BELL TOLLS, IT TOLLS FOR THE. -- "FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS, IT TOLLS FOR THEE." SUPERSTORM SANDY INDEXES AND -- FROM TEXAS AND SAY, THAT ON THE IS GOES AND THAT'S THEIR PROBLEM. BECAUSE IN A COUPLE OF YEARS IT WILL BE YOUR PROBLEM AND YOU WILL HAVE TO CHIP IN FOR FUNDING. HOST: BEFORE IT GOT TO THAT DEBATE, SOME WERE OFFERING CUTS AND OTHERS VOTED NO. WAS THERE MUCH DEBATE OVER PREVIOUS DISASTER RELIEF FUNDS? 00:07:38 John McArdle GUEST: I THINK AS CONGRESS HAS BECOME MORE AND MORE PARTISAN OVER THE YEARS, AND THAT WAS WITH THE HEIGHT OF THE CONTROVERSY, OVER WHETHER 00:07:48 I. Michael Greenberger MONEY -- ONE PART OF THE COUNTRY WAS AFFECTED AND THE QUESTION WAS WHETHER THE REST OF THE COUNTRY SHOULD BE EXPECTED TO HELP THAT PART OF THE COUNTRY OUT. THAT IS AN OVERSUPPLY OF THE SITUATION, BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, AS WE ARE LEARNING WHEN YOU LOOK AT WILDFIRES, DROUGHTS, HURRICANES, THESE ARE SITUATIONS THAT CAN HAPPEN ANYWHERE. AND IN FACT, RECENTLY THERE WERE THE VIOLENT PROTEST IN BALTIMORE , AND THE MARYLAND DELEGATION IS NOW ASKING FOR DISASTER RELIEF FUND FOR THE MONEY SPENT TO RESPOND TO THAT INCIDENT. HOST: UNDER WHAT AUTHORITY QUESTION MARK THIS IS NOT A NATURAL DISASTER. GUEST: WELL, THEY WILL HAVE A HARD TIME FITTING WITHIN THE DEFINITIONS OF THE STATUTE. THERE IS A 00:08:37 John McArdle DEFINITION OF MAJOR DISASTER THAT IS VERY BROAD, BUT I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. IT WILL BE 00:08:41 I. Michael Greenberger DIFFICULT TO SAY THIS FALLS WITHIN THE DEFINITION. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, WILDFIRES ARE NOT WITHIN THE DEFINITION, BECAUSE THOSE ARE DOUBTLESS -- DEALT WITH BY THE FOREST SERVICE FROM A DIFFERENT FUND. AND THERE IS A MOVEMENT NOW TO BRING WILDFIRES WITHIN THE DEFINITION OF MAJOR DISASTERS. AND THE FINAL THING I WOULD SAY IS, THE STATES DO NOT GET 100% OF THEIR EXPENSES. A TYPICAL DISTRIBUTION IS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PAYS 75% AND THE STATE PAYS 25% AND THE STATES ARE INCREASINGLY HAVING MORE DIFFICULTY RAISING THEIR 25%. HOST: SPECIFICALLY ON THE BALTIMORE TOPIC, THE HILL NEWSPAPER. WE WILL GO TO WILMA WAITING IN 00:09:33 John McArdle ALABAMA, LINE FOR INDEPENDENTS. GOOD MORNING. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. MY QUESTION IS, WHEN FEMA GIVES MONEY TO THE STATE AND THE STATE DOES NOT DISTRIBUTE THAT MONEY IMMEDIATELY -- 00:09:49 CALLER YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A LONG TIME FOR THESE PEOPLE TO GET HELP. WHEN THEIR FISCAL YEAR ROLLS AROUND AND THEY STILL HAVE MONEY IN THAT FUND, WHAT HAPPENS TO IT? IS THAT STATE ALLOWED TO PUT THAT MONEY INTO THEIR GENERAL FUND AND USE IT AS THEY WISH TO? GUEST: THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. THE FEMA DISASTER RELIEF FUND IS NOT EXPIRE AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. IF THERE ARE MONEY FROM A PRIOR YEAR 00:10:19 I. Michael Greenberger STILL IN FEMA'S BANK ACCOUNT, LET'S SAY, THEY CAN CONTINUE TO SPEND FROM PRIOR YEARS. AND THE SAME IS TRUE FOR THE STATES. IN OTHER WORDS, IF THE MONEY IS DISTRIBUTED BY FEMA TO THE STATES, THE STATE CAN CONTINUE TO USE IT. BUT THERE'S ANOTHER POINT IMPLICIT IN YOUR QUESTION THAT IS OF GREAT CONCERN, WHICH IS THE STATES HAVING THE POWER ONCE THEY GET THE MONEY TO DISTRIBUTE IT. AND THERE HAVE BEEN ALLEGATIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, A NEW JERSEY. AND I EMPHASIZE ALLEGATIONS. THAT NEW JERSEY WAS PLAYING POLITICAL GAMES IN DISTRIBUTING THE MONEY. IN OTHER WORDS, WHERE YOU SUPPORTING THE GOVERNOR, AND ALLEGATIONS IF YOU DIDN'T. WITH HURRICANE KATRINA, $100 BILLION TAKEN OUT OF THE FUND FOR RELIEF FOR THE COAST STATES. IT WAS LATER PROVEN BY THE INSPECTOR GENERAL REPORTS AND THE GENERAL ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICE THAT ABOUT $500 BILLION OF THAT WAS FRAUDULENTLY DISTRIBUTED. THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THE STATES WERE DISTRIBUTING IT FRAUDULENTLY, BUT THAT PEOPLE ARE MAKING FRAUDULENT APPLICATIONS FOR FUNDING. THAT HAS CREATED GREAT CONCERN ON THE HILL THAT TOO LARGE A PERCENTAGE OF THIS MONEY HAS BEEN DISTRIBUTED ON A FRAUDULENT BASIS. HOST: MICHAEL GREENBERGER IS THE DIRECTOR AT THE CENTER FOR HEALTH AND HOMELAND SECURITY. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT YOUR BACKGROUND WITH THESE ISSUES? GUEST: I CAME TO IT LATER IN MY CAREER. 00:12:03 John McArdle I'M A LAWYER BY TRAINING WILL STOP -- BY TRAINING. I WAS WITHIN THE CLINTON JUSTICE DEPARTMENT BEFORE 00:12:11 I. Michael Greenberger THE 9/11 ATTACKS, BUT I GOT RECRUITED INTO SUPERVISING FIELD EXERCISES THAT TESTED THE READINESS OF THE CABINET TO RESPOND IN THOSE DAYS TO TERROR ATTACKS. AND AFTER 9/11, MOST OF THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT CONCERNS WERE RESPONDING TO TERROR ATTACKS. AFTER HURRICANE KATRINA, THE RESPONSE MECHANISM WAS CONSIDERED ALL HAZARDS THAT IS TO SAY, WHAT SHOULD YOU DO -- WHAT YOU SHOULD DO TO RESPOND TO A TERROR ATTACK WILL BE THE SAME IF YOU RESPOND TO A HURRICANE, EVACUATIONS AND THINGS OF THAT SORT. AND WITH THE WEATHER PATTERNS BECOMING SO FREQUENT AND INTENSE AND HUGE, MUCH OF OUR ATTENTION IS FOCUSED NOW ON NATURAL DISASTERS. AND WHEN I SAY NATURAL DISASTERS, INCLUDING THAT INFECTIONS -- INFECTIOUS DISEASE. WE HAVE BEEN CALLED UPON TO GIVE ADVICE CONCERNING EBOLA. WE HAVE DIFFERENT CONTRACTS WITH DIFFERENT LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT ALL THE WAY UP TO THE INTERNATIONAL LEVEL. AND WE PROVIDE TRAINING AND PROVIDE CONTINGENCY PLANS FOR EMERGENCIES. WE DO FIELD EXERCISES. AND WE DO THAT BOTH LOCALLY, COUNTYWIDE, STATE, AND WHEN I LEAVE HERE TODAY, I AM BRIEFING A DELEGATION FROM CAN'T EXTEND -- KAHAZAKSTAN. HOST: ON THE LINE FOR DEMOCRATS, PATRICIA. GOOD MORNING. CALLER: WHAT I REMEMBER DURING SANDY IS THAT CONGRESS WAS WORRIED ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT 00:14:00 John McArdle THEY WERE EVEN GOING TO PAY THE FLOOD INSURANCE MONEY THAT PEOPLE WERE GOING TO 00:14:04 CALLER TAKE OUT. CAN THEY GET AWAY WITH THAT? I'VE BEEN PAYING FOR FLOOD INSURANCE EVERY YEAR. I'M CONFUSED ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE TO PAY OUT THE FLOOD INSURANCE WE HAVE TAKEN OUT. GUEST: WELL, YOU KNOW, EVERY SOURCE OF FEDERAL MONEY HAS TO BE ACCOMPANIED BY AN APPROPRIATION. FOR EXAMPLE, 00:14:29 I. Michael Greenberger LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT FLOOD INSURANCE, BUT DISASTER RELIEF, AND A FUNDRAISER OUT. AND THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT WHETHER CONGRESS WOULD BE ABLE TO RESUSCITATE THE FUND AND PROVIDE DISASTER RELIEF. THAT IS TRUE OF EVERYTHING. IF CONGRESS DOESN'T APPROPRIATE, THEN NO MATTER WHAT "RIGHT" YOU HAVE, IF THERE IS NO MONEY TO GIVE THOSE BENEFITS, YOU ARE IN TROUBLE. WE SEE THAT IN PENSION FUNDS SITUATIONS TODAY, FOR EXAMPLE, DETROIT, WHERE IT JUST RAN OUT OF MONEY FOR ITS PENSION FUNDS AND A BANKRUPTCY COURT GAVE THE FORMER'S THE EMPLOYEES $.15 -- FORMER CITY EMPLOYEES $.15 ON THE DOLLAR FOR PENSIONS. YES, YOU HAVE INSURANCE, BUT WILL THE MONEY BE THERE? AND THAT IS TRUE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, TOO. IF YOU HAVE A COMPANY THAT IS NOT VERY STABLE, THEY COULD GO BANKRUPT AND THAT INSURANCE IS NOT WORTH MUCH. YOU HAVE TO KEEP YOUR EYE ON THAT SIDE OF THE BENEFITS. HOST: LARRY IN COLORADO ON THE LINE FOR INDEPENDENTS. CALLER: I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW AT YOU HAD A DISASTER LIKE THIS, 00:15:42 John McArdle FOR INSTANCE, KATRINA, WILMA, AND RITA, YOU SHOW 00:15:48 CALLER A LARGER MONEY -- AMOUNT OF MONEY AVAILABLE FOR THEM. MY QUESTION IS, HOW LONG AFTER THE DISASTER IS THIS MONEY AVAILABLE? AND IS THERE A TIME LIMIT THAT THE STATES HAVE TO DISTRIBUTE IT? GUEST: WE ARE STILL PENDING DOLLARS ON RECOVERY FROM THE KATRINA, WILMA, AND RITA SITUATION. THERE IS STILL MONEY APPROPRIATED FOR THAT. 00:16:13 I. Michael Greenberger THERE IS NO DEADLINE IN THE SENSE OF ONCE THE MONEY IS APPROPRIATED HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE TO EXTEND IT. OBVIOUSLY, IF FEMA IS GOING TO BE RIDICULOUSLY SLOW IN GETTING IT OUT TO THE FIELD, THAT WILL BE A SOURCE OF GREAT CONTROVERSY IN CONGRESSIONAL OVERSIGHT. BUT I THINK THERE HAVE BEEN CLAIMS THAT FEMA CAN BE QUICKER, OR MORE EFFICIENT, IN THE WAY THEY ALLOCATE THE FUNDS AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE ACTUALLY USED. BUT BY AND LARGE MY THINK THERE HAS BEEN SATISFACTION WITH THE WAY THAT HAS BEEN HANDLED. HOST: AND BY THE WAY, THERE IS CONTROVERSY OF BOTH OVERPAYMENTS FROM FEMA FUNDS AND UNDERPAYMENTS FROM FEMA FUNDS. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY DOES HARD TO GET IT JUST RIGHT? 00:17:07 John McArdle GUEST: FEMA IS DEPENDENT ON THE DATA OF THE DAMAGE THAT IS BEING DONE. -- HAS BEEN DONE. IF THE DATA IS NO 00:17:18 I. Michael Greenberger GOOD, OR FOR INSTANCE, IF IT IS PADDED, OR TO JUST CANNOT BE AN ACCURATE ASSESSMENT, YOU MAY END UP GIVING OUT MUCH MORE MONEY THAN WAS ACTUALLY NEEDED. ON THE SIDE OF HAVING TOO LITTLE MONEY, THAT IS PROBABLY MORE A CASE OF THE APPLICANTS NOT ADEQUATELY DOCUMENTING WHAT THEY NEED OR MAKING A CORRECT ESTIMATE AS TO WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE. BUT YOU ARE QUITE RIGHT, IN THIS SCENARIO THERE ARE COMPLAINTS ALL OVER THE PLACE. IT IS INTERESTING THAT SENATOR COBURN FROM OKLAHOMA, WHO IS CHAIR OF THE WATCHDOG COMMITTEE, HAS JUST RECOMMENDED THAT THE FUNDING FOR DISASTERS BE TIGHTENED UP. AND HE SECOND I COME FROM OKLAHOMA. OKLAHOMA IS ONE OF THE BIG BENEFICIARIES OF DISASTER RELIEF FUNDS. AND HE MADE THE ARGUMENT THAT IT HAS TO BE MADE MORE CAREFULLY AND CAN BE MADE SMALLER WITH EFFICIENCIES. THIS IS AN ACTIVE SORT OF DEBATE ON THE HILL. HOST: LET'S GO TO PAUL IN INDIANA. ON THE LINE FOR INDEPENDENTS. GOOD MORNING. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. I WAS A 00:18:35 John McArdle FEDERAL AUDITOR FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS 00:18:42 CALLER AND THE ARGUMENT OVER THAT 60 BILLION DOLLARS WAS NOT OVER THE AMOUNT THAT WENT FOR RELIEF. THAT WAS TO PROTECT FOR A FUTURE EVENT AND THE -- ABOUT 75% AT NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHEN TALKING ABOUT THIS MONEY. THANK YOU. GUEST: WELL, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR MONEYS TO BE SPENT IN DISASTER RELIEF FUND. 00:19:35 I. Michael Greenberger I WOULD SAY THAT PROTECTION IS NOT FOR A ONE IN 50 YEARS STORM. I WOULD SAY THESE STORMS ARE COMING FASTER AND FASTER AND ARE MORE INTENSE AND I THINK THE WHOLE SOUTHERN ASPECT WAS AFFECTED. HOST: ARE THESE KNOWN AS FEDERAL DISASTER MITIGATION GRANTS? GUEST: YES EXACTLY. HOST: AND THERE IS 00:20:16 John McArdle CONCERN ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE PLANNING IN ORDER TO GET THESE BENEFITS. 00:20:20 I. Michael Greenberger CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? 00:20:25 John McArdle GUEST: THERE IS CONTROVERSY OVER WHETHER CLIMATE CHANGE EXISTS OR IS CAUSED 00:20:35 I. Michael Greenberger BY CLIMATOLOGY. FROM OUR OWN LIVES WE CAN SEE THIS COMING MORE FREQUENTLY. THINGS ARE LIKELY TO GET WORSE IN THE FUTURE. FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVE THERE IS NO CLIMATE CHANGE, OR THAT IT CANNOT BE CONTROLLED OR THAT IT'S A HUMAN OCCURRING EVENT, THERE'S LESS AND THAT PRORATING FUNDS IN ANTICIPATION OF CLIMATE CHANGE ACTIVITIES. BUT I THINK THE PREDICTIONS BY CLIMATOLOGISTS ARE THAT THE OCEANS ARE GOING TO RISE AND WHAT WAS BEACHFRONT PROPERTY MAY BE PART OF THE OCEAN IN 20 TO 40 YEARS. THAT IS WHY THIS PROBLEM DESERVES A LOT OF ATTENTION. BUT THIS IS NOT BEHIND US. WE WILL FACE THINGS ON A REGULAR BASIS, AND THE FEDERAL DOLLARS AS I SAID CAN LET LOOK BACK TO 1990, $2 BILLION WOULD HAVE DONE IT. IF YOU LOOK AT HURRICANE SANDY, $60 BILLION WAS USED. IT IS TRUE AS ONE OF THE COLLARS SAID, WHEN YOU HAVE FILIBUSTERS TO GET THE MOTION THROUGH, THERE WAS SOME MONEY SPRINKLED AROUND. BUT MOST OF THAT WAS FOR HAZARD MITIGATION. I WOULD ARGUE IT WAS APPROPRIATELY -- IT WILL PAY OFF IN THE FUTURE BY MAKING FUTURE DISASTERS LESS DAMAGING. BUT IT'S TRUE THAT THERE WERE AMOUNTS SPENT WITHIN THEIR TO GET VOTES. AND NOT ONLY WERE THEIR AMOUNTS STRUGGLED IN THEIR TO GET VOTES, BUT SENATOR CRUZ NOW SAYS THAT THE REASON HE OPPOSED SANDY WAS THAT THEY WERE TOO MANY IRRELEVANCIES IN THE STATUTE, CHAIR OF PICKING -- CHERRY PICKING DIFFERENT STATUTES THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DISASTER. AND HE SAYS HE BASED HIS VOTE AGAINST THE RELIEF ON THAT. OF COURSE, THE MONEY PROBABLY NEED NOW HOPEFULLY IS WITHIN THE DISASTER RELIEF FUND AND IT WILL NOT BE A NEED FOR A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION. BUT AS I SAID EARLIER, WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD ESTIMATE NOW OF WHAT THE DAMAGE WAS IN TEXAS AND OKLAHOMA. HOST: WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DISASTER RELIEF IN OUR WE REOPEN YOUR MONEY" AND MEANT -- IN OUR WEEKLY "YOUR MONEY" SEGMENT. 00:23:13 John McArdle WE ARE TALKING WITH MICHAEL GREENBERGER. TERRY, GO AHEAD. CALLER: GOOD MORNING EVERYONE IN THE UNITED STATES. HOST: CALLER: GO AHEAD. CAN YOU HEAR ME? --HOST: GO AHEAD. 00:23:29 CALLER CALLER: CAN YOU HEAR ME? 00:23:32 John McArdle HOST: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD. CALLER: I HAVE A DOCUMENT THAT 00:23:39 CALLER TALKS ABOUT TESTS ON MINOR -- ON MARIJUANA BECAUSE DOCTORS 00:23:42 John McArdle HAVE PATIENCE THAT HAVE SEIZURES. IT HELPS 00:23:47 CALLER THEM GET AWAY FROM THE SEIZURES MORE THAN EVER BEFORE. HOST: WE WILL HOLD OFF ON THE MARIJUANA DEBATE FOR JUST A BIT. WE WANT TO STICK WITH THE NATURAL DISASTER 00:24:00 John McArdle FUNDING SINCE WE HAVE OUR EXPERT MICHAEL GREENBERGER WITH US. JOHN, GOOD MORNING. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. THE GENTLEMAN IS RIGHT. THERE WAS A LOT OF STUFF IN THAT BILL AND THERE WAS A LOT OF NOISE MADE ABOUT TED CRUZ VOTING AGAINST IT. 00:24:16 CALLER I WAS LOOKING AT HR 152 AND THEY HAD MONEY AND THEREFORE CONSTRUCTION THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HURRICANE SANDY. IT WAS THE SMITHSONIAN, AND FISH AND WILDLIFE THINGS. THEY HAD FUNDING FOR THE EPA, WHICH DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH SANDY. IF ONE LOOKS AT JUST THE VAST AMOUNTS OF STUFF OTHER THAN THE PURELY PAYING FOR DAMAGE IN THE AREA OF HURRICANE SAY BECOME I THINK I WOULD HAVE VOTED AGAINST THE DARN THING TO. -- TOO. WHEN I HEAR COMMENT LIKE OUR GUEST MADE ABOUT THE SCIENTISTS, I'M ALWAYS LOOKING AT THIS LIST OF WHO THOSE SCIENTISTS ARE BY NAME AND WHAT THEIR QUALIFICATIONS ARE. IT IS EASY TO SAY THAT ALL SIZES AGREE. -- ALL SCIENTISTS AGREE. BUT I REALLY DON'T THINK THEY DO. IF WE CAN COME UP WITH AN OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT LIST OF THE SITE IS AND WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT MAN-MADE GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE, I WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE TO MAYBE BELIEVE IN IT, BUT RIGHT NOW I'M KIND OF GO. HOST: MICHAEL GREENBERGER, I WILL A YOU JUMP IN. GUEST: FOR MY PURPOSES, NOT GOING TO TAKE ON THE BURDEN OF WHETHER CLIMATE CHANGE IS CAUSED BY HUMAN ACTIVITY 00:25:42 John McArdle OR NOT. WHAT WE 00:25:44 I. Michael Greenberger KNOW IS, THERE IS A HEAVY CONSENSUS THAT THERE IS CLIMATE CHANGE. CANDIDATE JEB BUSH SAID RECENTLY THERE IS CLIMATE CHANGE. HE DISPUTED THE CERTAINTY OF WHETHER OR NOT IT IS CAUSED BY HUMANS. IF THERE IS CLIMATE CHANGE, WHATEVER ITS CAUSE, IT IS CAUSING MUCH MORE FREQUENT AND INTENSE AND DAMAGING WEATHER EVENTS, WHETHER IT BE HURRICANE, SUPERSTORM'S, TROPICAL DEPRESSIONS, WHILE FLYERS, DROUGHT -- WILDFIRES, DROUGHTS, YOU NAME IT, WE ARE EXPERIENCING IT. IF YOU TALK TO THE CITY OR STATE EMERGENCY MANAGERS, THEY WILL TELL YOU 20 YEARS AGO, AND EMERGENCY CAME UP MAYBE TWO OR THREE TIMES A YEAR AT MOST. NOW MOST OF THOSE EMERGENCY MANAGERS ARE FACING THINGS THAT COME UP ONCE A MONTH OR SOONER. AND REMEMBER, YOU CAN HAVE AN EMERGENCY IN A CITY OR COUNTY THAT DOESN'T RISE TO THE LEVEL OF A MAJOR DISASTER, WHICH THE PRESIDENT ALLOWS FEDERAL FUNDS FOR. BUT IT CAN BE WITHIN A COMMUNITY A SERIOUS INCIDENT THAT REQUIRES A RESPONSE, AND EITHER CITY OR STATE TAXPAYER MONEY WILL BE USED FOR IT. TALK TO AN EMERGENCY MANAGER ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY AND THEY WILL TELL YOU THAT THEY'VE GOT THEIR HANDS FULL AND THEY ARE UNDERFUNDED AND UNDER RESOURCED. AND THEN YOU PUT ON TOP OF IT EBOLA, WHICH IS A POTENTIALLY DEADLY WORLDWIDE DISEASE, AND GOVERNMENTS ARE -- IN TERMS OF FACING CRISES WITH TERRORISM ASIDE, IS AN OVERWHELMING RESPONSIBILITY THAT UNFORTUNATELY CITIZENS ONLY SEE WHEN THEY ARE DIRECTLY AFFECTED. BUT THERE IS A LOT OF WORK BEING DONE WHEN THERE IS VERY LITTLE MONEY APPROPRIATED FOR IT. AND WITH REGARD TO SUPERSTORM SANDY, AND YOU NEED TO GET 60 VOTES IN THE SENATE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE MAKING FILIBUSTERS, DEALS HAVE TO BE TRUCK. -- HAVE TO BE STRUCK. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE LEGISLATION, YES THERE WAS MONEY THAT MAY BE DID NOT GO TO RESPONDING TO OR MITIGATING DISASTERS, BUT THE OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF MONEY WAS DIRECTED THAT WAY. HOST: ON OUR NEWSMAKERS PROGRAM THIS PAST WEEKEND, WE TALKED TO THE NATION'S TOP EMERGENCY MANAGER, FEMA ADMINISTRATOR CRAIG FEW GATE WAS 00:28:21 John McArdle OUR GUEST. HE TALKED ABOUT WHAT KEEPS HIM UP AT NIGHT. HERE'S A BIT OF WHAT HE HAD TO SAY. [VIDEO CLIP] >> YOU TAKE ANY AREA WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH A LOT OF TRAFFIC CONGESTION, AND THAT WILL BE A PROBLEM AREA. IN THE 00:28:40 Unidentified Speaker NEW JERSEY-NEW YORK AREA, THAT IS SOME OF THE HIGHEST DENSITY, SO AGAIN COME A VERY CHALLENGING AREA. BUT THE AREAS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN HIT WITH HURRICANES IN A LONG TIME ALSO HAVE CHALLENGES. ONE IS IN VIRGINIA IN THE HAMPTONS ROADS -- CANTON ROADS REGION. -- THE HAMPTON ROADS REGION. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO TENDED TO THINK THEY DID NOT HAVE A HURRICANE PROBLEM, BUT IT IS AN AREA WHERE YOU HAVE TO EVACUATE. THAT IS WHAT IS SO CRITICAL TO TAKE THE TIME NOW AS WE GO INTO HURRICANE SEASON TO FIND OUT IF YOU LIVE IN EVACUATION ZONE. NOT EVERYONE REALIZES IT'S NOT JUST ALONG THE COAST. OFTEN TIMES WILL HAVE FLOODING WELL LIVED -- WELL INLAND BECAUSE OF CANALS AND FLOODING AT THE BAYS. WATER COMING INTO AN URBAN AREA CAN CAUSE TREMENDOUS DETERMINED -- TREMENDOUS DISRUPTION IN AN AREA WHERE PEOPLE HAVE LIVED THEIR WHOLE LIVES AND NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT. HOST: TO WATCH THE FULL INTERVIEW, GO TO WWW.C-SPAN.ORG. THAT WAS LAST SUNDAY'S NEWSMAKERS PROGRAM. YOUR THOUGHTS ON THESE SCENARIOS? 00:30:04 John McArdle GUEST: THE MINISTRY AT HER WAS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. IF SUPERSTORM SANDY -- THE ADMINISTRATOR WAS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. IF SUPERSTORM SANDY HAD 00:30:16 I. Michael Greenberger BEEN 200 MILES TO THE SOUTH, IT WOULD HAVE IMPACTED MARYLAND AND DELAWARE, ETC.. WE WOULD HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS. NOBODY KNEW WHERE IT WAS GOING TO LAND. WE WERE VERY LUCKY. WE DODGED A BULLET. AND AS THE ADMINISTRATOR SAID, YOU CANNOT SIT THERE SAYING TO YOURSELF, OH, THIS IS SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROBLEM. WITHIN A SERIES OF YEARS IT WILL BE YOUR PROBLEM WILL STOP -- YOUR PROBLEM. HOST: VISIT IS WAITING IN TULSA ON THE LINE FOR REPUBLICANS. VINCENT, GOOD MORNING. 00:30:59 John McArdle CALLER: AS FAR AS ON THE BEACH IN CALIFORNIA WERE THIS OIL PIPE LOU UP AND SPREAD, HOW MUCH MONEY WOULD YOU GIVE -- THAT BLEW UP AND SPREAD, HOW MUCH MONEY WOULD YOU GIVE TO THAT? 00:31:10 CALLER GUEST: I DON'T THINK IT HAS BEEN DECLARED A FEDERAL DISASTER, BUT I'M NOT UP TO DATE ON THAT. HOST: LET'S GO TO GEORGE IN FROSTBURG, MARYLAND, LINE FOR INDEPENDENTS. 00:31:23 I. Michael Greenberger CALLER: GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN. 00:31:28 John McArdle YOU HAVE BEEN TOO NICE TO SOME OF THESE POLITICIANS. I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST TO 00:31:33 CALLER YOU, LIKE RONALD REAGAN AND ABRAHAM LINCOLN USED TO DO. THEY COULD TAKE A COMPLEX IDEA AND PUT IT ACROSS TO THE AVERAGE AMERICAN IN WAYS THEY COULD UNDERSTAND. THOSE CONGRESSIONAL POLITICIANS FROM THOSE DISTRICTS HAVE TO RESPOND TO PEOPLE AROUND THE COUNTRY. WHY DON'T THEY GO TO THESE CORPORATE BOSSES THAT THEY ARE TAKING MONEY FROM THE TAXPAYERS TO? HOST: GETTING INTO THE POLITICAL DEBATE. GUEST: I THINK AN EXAMPLE, AND WHETHER SENATOR CRUZ HAS AN 00:32:25 John McArdle ADEQUATE EXPLANATION FOR VOTING AGAINST THE FUNDING 00:32:29 I. Michael Greenberger OR NOT, I WILL LEAVE THAT TO THE SIDE. BUT I THINK THE PEOPLE ON THE SOUTHWESTERN STATES THOUGHT THE SANDY WAS ANY COAST PROBLEM, AND THEN THREE YEARS LATER IT IS A SOUTHWEST PROBLEM. I THINK THIS LESSON IS BEING LEARNED. AND I THINK THE LESSON WILL BE LEARNED VERY QUICKLY THAT THESE DISASTERS -- AND WE TALKED ABOUT PROTECTING THE NEW YORK CITY HARBOR FROM OVERFLOW. IT'S A ONE IN 50 YEARS THING, BUT IT'S NOT ONE IN 50 YEARS. IT'S GOING TO BE ONE IN THREE YEARS, ONE IN FOUR YEARS. AND THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THAT HOWEVER HIGH THEY BUILD IT, IT WILL NOT BE HIGH ENOUGH. AND I THINK THE COUNTRY HAS TO ACCLIMATE ITSELF TO THE PRESSURES WE ARE UNDER. HOST: WE HEAR SO OFTEN ABOUT HURRICANE DISASTER PLANNING AND WORSE WANT. IS THERE A NEXT FRONTIER IN YOUR MIND FOR FEDERAL 00:33:29 John McArdle DISASTER? THERE HAVE BEEN STORIES IN THE PAPERS RECENTLY ABOUT TRAIN DERAILMENT AND OIL TRAIN DERAILMENT WITH THE UPTAKE OF -- THE UPTAKE OF OIL CARRYING AROUND THE COUNTRY. GUEST: THAT IS AN INTERESTING EXAMPLE WITH TRAINS DERAILING FILLED WITH OIL OR DANGEROUS 00:33:53 I. Michael Greenberger CHEMICALS. IT'S A PROBLEM. AND WHO'S WRONG -- WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY TO RESPOND TO THAT? IT'S THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT RESPONDERS. LET ME BE QUICK TO SAY THAT A LOT OF THE LACK OF FUNDING HERE IS BECAUSE WE ARE INCREASINGLY AS A POLICY MATTER TRYING TO SOFTEN THE TAX BURDEN ON OUR WEALTHIEST CITIZENS. AND A LOT OF THE SHORTFALL IN THE MONEY AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO FLOODS, HURRICANES, WILD FIRES, OIL SPILLS, COMES FROM THE FACT THAT OUR TAX BASE IS HISTORICALLY LOW AND IT IS PENNY WISE AND POUND FOOLISH. WHEN YOU ARE PAYING YOUR TAXES AND LOOKING FOR GOVERNMENT SERVICES, PART OF THE GOVERNMENT SERVICES WHEN ANYTHING GOES WRONG, YOUR FIRE, POLICE, AND EMERGENCY MANAGERS, YOU EXPECT THEM TO BE THERE ASAP. THEY ARE ONLY GOING TO BE THERE ASAP IF THERE IS MONEY FOR THEM. AND THE ONLY WAY THERE IS MONEY FOR THEM IS REVENUES GENERATED ON THE TAX BASE. HOST: WITH A LOWER THAN EXPECTED STORM SEASON, IS THERE MONEY FREED UP TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THESE OTHER POTENTIAL DISASTERS? GUEST: I THINK DR. 00:35:11 John McArdle KNABB HAD IT EXACTLY RIGHT. YOU CANNOT TAKE COMFORT FROM A LESS THAN USUAL HURRICANES -- HURRICANE SEASON BECAUSE THEY CANNOT PREDICT 00:35:23 I. Michael Greenberger THE DAMAGE FROM THESE HURRICANES. I THINK THERE IS A BETTER THAN 50-50 CHANCE THAT BY THE TIME HURRICANE SEASON IS OVER -- SUPERSTORM SANDY WAS IN OCTOBER, 2012. WE WILL HAVE STATE DECLARING EMERGENCIES FOR THE DISASTER RELIEF FUND. THE CHANCES ARE, WHATEVER IS THERE WILL NOT BE ENOUGH. HOST: MICHAEL GREENBERGER IS THE DIRECTOR FOR THE CENTER FOR HEALTH AND HOMELAND SECURITY AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND. YOU CAN FOLLOW THEM ON TWITTER. 00:36:02 John McArdle WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. GUEST: THANK YOU. HOST: AND THAT IS OUR SHOW ON THIS MONDAY, JUNE 1. WE WILL SEE YOU BACK HERE TOMORROW MORNING AT EVAN :00 00:36:16 I. Michael Greenberger A.M. EASTERN, 4:00 A.M. -- 00:36:20 John McArdle 7:00 A.M. EASTERN, 4:00 A.M. PACIFIC. HAVE A GREAT DAY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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