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NNE Winter: just can't compete with Maple Hollow.


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I can trace its most recent issues back to at least last fall, but it seems to be getting worse now.  Some of the rain events this month with the big torrential TS rains it has done ok, but this recent event is almost laughable when home stations are putting a very expensive ASOS to shame, lol.

 

Within our local area, rainfall ranges from 0.80" to 1.28" on local private weather stations.  MVL with 0.31" is marked on the screen shot, and I also added my 1.11" (but that's not an automatic station).  Sucks that the actual "official" station in the county is essentially useless for rainfall.

 

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I have to believe they've noticed a problem. Maybe it's a delay on parts or something.

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Mansfield only came in with 0.71" this evening, surprised me quite a bit given we were over an inch at Mountain Operations and here at my house in town.  Winds gusting up to 60mph up there though...I know it severely under-catches in winter but doubt that plays a role in rain storms. 

 

Anyway, Mansfield is still looking for 0.41" to break the monthly record.  We've had some pulses of brief moderate rain moving through so I think the Co-Op can get the record.

 

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Maybe someone here can help me identify a bird. My New England Audubon book didn't help me.

It landed on my garden fence while I was preparing the bed for my pumpkin patch. It was an average sized bird that was primarily dark brown (granted it was 8pm). It's most distinguishing feature was a large head. I tried the whatbird search and the illustration is very close to what I saw.

http://identify.whatbird.com/obj/170/overview/Olive-sided_Flycatcher.aspx

The thing is, when I search the bird on google images it doesn't look as dark as the illustration or what I saw. The other, more common, option is eastern phoebe I suppose.

The immature female cowbird hangs out with recently fledged phoebes and makes a racket with them, as if it's trying to convince itself that it's a phoebe and not a cowbird.  It has a pretty large head and might be your mystery bird.

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The immature female cowbird hangs out with recently fledged phoebes and makes a racket with them, as if it's trying to convince itself that it's a phoebe and not a cowbird. It has a pretty large head and might be your mystery bird.

I considered that. We occasionally get a cowbird or two at the feeders. This looked like an adult bird though. Wish I had my phone on me to get a pic.
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Still only 63F so far with some peaks of sun. There was a subtle scent of wood smoke in the air this morning. Happy summer.

[TEMPERATURE DATA]      [PRECIPITATION DATA]       AVERAGE MONTHLY: 60.5   TOTAL FOR MONTH:   6.07    DPTR FM NORMAL:  -3.3   DPTR FM NORMAL:    2.03    HIGHEST:    85 ON 11    GRTST 24HR  1.42 ON 28-28      LOWEST:     42 ON  5                           
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[TEMPERATURE DATA]      [PRECIPITATION DATA]       AVERAGE MONTHLY: 60.5   TOTAL FOR MONTH:   6.07    DPTR FM NORMAL:  -3.3   DPTR FM NORMAL:    2.03    HIGHEST:    85 ON 11    GRTST 24HR  1.42 ON 28-28      LOWEST:     42 ON  5                           

Ran the woodstove yesterday and last night, did not re-light it this morning.  My stats thru June 28 are significantly cooler than LEW "metro":

 

Temp:  65.8; 46.5; 56.1

4.0 below my avg.  Coolest June 1998-2014 was 57.4 in 2009 (also 56.8 in 1985, in Ft. Kent)

High:  79 on 11th (Reached 80 or warmer 7 times in May)

Low:  34 on 7th (plus 3 other sub-40 minima, most recently on the 20th)

 

Precip:  6.92",  1.41 above my 17-yr avg, and I expect that to be the final total.  Will rank 6th of 18 Junes.

Grt 24-hr:  1.46" between 4 AM Sunday and the wee hours this morning - only 0.04" after 9 last night. 

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Ran the woodstove yesterday and last night, did not re-light it this morning.  My stats thru June 28 are significantly cooler than LEW "metro":

 

Temp:  65.8; 46.5; 56.1

4.0 below my avg.  Coolest June 1998-2014 was 57.4 in 2009 (also 56.8 in 1985, in Ft. Kent)

High:  79 on 11th (Reached 80 or warmer 7 times in May)

Low:  34 on 7th (plus 3 other sub-40 minima, most recently on the 20th)

 

Precip:  6.92",  1.41 above my 17-yr avg, and I expect that to be the final total.  Will rank 6th of 18 Junes.

Grt 24-hr:  1.46" between 4 AM Sunday and the wee hours this morning - only 0.04" after 9 last night. 

 

Those are GYX's, I have to check my numbers on my station

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Those are GYX's, I have to check my numbers on my station

 

Their hillside location (assuming the instruments are near the office rather than the hilltop dome) accounts for the 8F difference in our monthly minimums, and probably much of the overall temps.  I'm guessing you'll land somewhere in between.

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Their hillside location (assuming the instruments are near the office rather than the hilltop dome) accounts for the 8F difference in our monthly minimums, and probably much of the overall temps.  I'm guessing you'll land somewhere in between.

 

The readings are all done from the parking lot/building area, about 25-30 feet lower in elevation than the RDA.

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Their hillside location (assuming the instruments are near the office rather than the hilltop dome) accounts for the 8F difference in our monthly minimums, and probably much of the overall temps.  I'm guessing you'll land somewhere in between.

 

I looked at AUG as well, I lie between both stations

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Rainfall total map....regarding our forum, I noticed that they have J.Spin's total correctly listed as 1.24" in the PNS but this graphic for some reason has 0.5".

 

Also I noticed they threw out the MVL total and didn't include the ASOS in any precipitation listing.  Hopefully that equipment will get fixed or assessed.  I ended up with 1.26" and the Stowe Mesonet was 1.21" so pretty darn close.  Morrisville Mesonet site had 1.36" which was a full inch higher than the MVL ASOS, haha.

 

11539576_891080257630543_867639113928167

VERMONT

...ADDISON COUNTY...
   2 E SOUTH LINCOLN     1.68   715 AM  6/29  NWS
   1 E ADDISON           1.62   800 AM  6/28  CWOP
   1 NW HANKSVILLE       1.29   747 AM  6/29  CWOP
   3 N SOUTH LINCOLN     1.24   715 AM  6/29  NWS
   WEST ADDISON          1.24   700 AM  6/29  MESONET
   1 WNW ORWELL          1.24   700 AM  6/29  COCORAHS
   CORNWALL              1.14   700 AM  6/29  MESONET
   FERRISBURG            1.03   700 AM  6/29  MESONET
   2 SE LINCOLN          1.01   700 AM  6/29  COCORAHS

...CALEDONIA COUNTY...
   4 WSW GROTON          1.42   600 AM  6/29  COCORAHS
   BARNET                1.40   700 AM  6/29  MESONET
   ST. JOHNSBURY         1.17   754 AM  6/29  ASOS
   WALDEN 4N             1.13   700 AM  6/29  CO-OP OBSERVER
   ENE HARDWICK          1.04   500 AM  6/29  COCORAHS
   LOWER WATERFORD       1.00   700 AM  6/29  MESONET

...CHITTENDEN COUNTY...
   BOLTON                1.33   700 AM  6/29  MESONET
   JONESVILLE            1.25   700 AM  6/29  MESONET
   SHELBURNE             1.19   700 AM  6/29  MESONET
   NORTH UNDERHILL       1.18   700 AM  6/29  MESONET
   1 ESE SAND BAR STATE  1.16   730 AM  6/29  RAWS
   SOUTH BURLINGTON      1.11   700 AM  6/29  MESONET
   BURLINGTON            1.08   700 AM  6/29  MESONET
   2 NE SHELBURNE        1.02   748 AM  6/29  CWOP

...ESSEX COUNTY...
   2 NNW LUNENBURG       1.13   800 AM  6/29  COCORAHS
   GALLUP MILLS NEPP     1.06   710 AM  6/29  CO-OP OBSERVER

...LAMOILLE COUNTY...
   JOHNSON               1.70   700 AM  6/29  MESONET
   MORRISVILLE           1.36   700 AM  6/29  MESONET
   STOWE                 1.21   700 AM  6/29  MESONET
   3 SSE STOWE           1.12   735 AM  6/29  COCORAHS
   LAKE ELMORE RAWS      1.02   702 AM  6/29  RAWS

...ORANGE COUNTY...
   VERSHIRE              1.85   700 AM  6/29  MESONET
   2 ESE VERSHIRE        1.64   800 AM  6/29  COCORAHS
   4 WNW BRADFORD        1.61   700 AM  6/29  COCORAHS
   BRADFORD              1.60   700 AM  6/29  MESONET
   3 SW BRAINTREE        1.59   800 AM  6/29  COCORAHS
   CORINTH               1.54   700 AM  6/29  CO-OP OBSERVER
   UNION VILLAGE DAM     1.43   730 AM  6/29  USARMY-COE
   4 E ORANGE            1.43   748 AM  6/29  CWOP
   WASHINGTON            1.40   700 AM  6/29  MESONET
   1 WNW RANDOLPH        1.40   900 AM  6/29  COCORAHS
   RANDOLPH              1.39   745 AM  6/28  UCOOP
   EAST ORANGE           1.11   745 AM  6/29  UCOOP
   UNION VILLAGE NEPP    1.00   700 AM  6/28  CO-OP OBSERVER

...ORLEANS COUNTY...
   GREENSBORO            1.15   700 AM  6/29  MESONET
   2 NNE GREENSBORO      1.08   700 AM  6/29  COCORAHS

...RUTLAND COUNTY...
   WEST BRIDGEWATER      2.00   700 AM  6/29  MESONET
   EAST WALLINGFORD      1.26   700 AM  6/29  MESONET
   3 ESE SHREWSBURY      1.24   758 AM  6/29  CWOP
   DANBY                 1.14   714 AM  6/29  RAWS
   1 N WEST RUTLAND      1.13   815 AM  6/28  COCORAHS
   WEST RUTLAND          1.10   700 AM  6/29  MESONET
   RUTLAND               1.07   700 AM  6/29  MESONET
   2 SSE PITTSFORD       1.05   800 AM  6/29  COCORAHS

...WASHINGTON COUNTY...
   FAYSTON               1.62   700 AM  6/29  MESONET
   MONTPELIER AIRPORT    1.46   751 AM  6/29  ASOS
   3 NE WATERBURY        1.39   615 AM  6/29  COCORAHS
   2 SE WAITSFIELD       1.37   700 AM  6/29  COCORAHS
   2 N NORTHFIELD        1.37   600 AM  6/29  COCORAHS
   3 SSE WARREN          1.31  1030 AM  6/29  COCORAHS
   WATERBURY CENTER      1.27   702 AM  6/29  CWOP
   1 E EAST WARREN       1.26   756 AM  6/29  CWOP
   PLAINFIELD            1.26   700 AM  6/29  CO-OP OBSERVER
   MONTPELIER            1.25   700 AM  6/29  MESONET
   3 NW WATERBURY        1.24   600 AM  6/29  COCORAHS
   2 SW EAST CALAIS      1.23   700 AM  6/29  COCORAHS
   CALAIS                1.16   700 AM  6/29  MESONET
   SUGARBUSH             1.15   700 AM  6/29  MESONET
   MORETOWN              1.04   700 AM  6/29  MESONET
   2 N MONTPELIER        1.03   800 AM  6/29  CWOP

...WINDSOR COUNTY...
   3 S LUDLOW            2.14   700 AM  6/29  COCORAHS
   1 WSW LUDLOW          2.01   800 AM  6/29  COCORAHS
   3 N POMFRET           1.84   700 AM  6/29  COCORAHS
   ASCUTNEY              1.65   700 AM  6/29  MESONET
   1 W QUECHEE           1.62   745 AM  6/29  CWOP
   WILDER                1.57   700 AM  6/29  MESONET
   NORTH SPRINGFIELD DA  1.52   730 AM  6/29  USARMY-COE
   NORTH HARTLAND DAM    1.49   730 AM  6/29  USARMY-COE
   ROCHESTER             1.48   632 AM  6/29  CO-OP OBSERVER
   1 ESE WESTON          1.47   749 AM  6/29  CWOP
   SPRINGFIELD AIRPORT   1.47   754 AM  6/29  ASOS
   NORWICH               1.39   700 AM  6/29  MESONET
   1 NW SOUTH POMFRET    1.37   752 AM  6/29  CWOP
   WEATHERSFIELD         1.13   751 AM  6/28  CWOP
   2 W SPRINGFIELD       1.11   759 AM  6/28  CWOP
   2 NNE NORWICH         1.09   700 AM  6/28  COCORAHS
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Rainfall total map....regarding our forum, I noticed that they have J.Spin's total correctly listed as 1.24" in the PNS but this graphic for some reason has 0.5".

 

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VERMONT
 
3 NW WATERBURY        1.24   600 AM  6/29  COCORAHS

 

Unfortunately we were traveling over the weekend, so I wasn’t around Sunday morning to make the usual 6:00 A.M. observations.  I really hate rolling an entire day’s precipitation into the next morning’s as a multi-day report if I can help it, since if you do that you’ve lost any possible information on the intermediate periods of precipitation during an event.  So if I can, I always try to get a late report in for that date, which at least preserves some of that information.  I set the correct observations time and document the deviation from the norm in the notes section of the observations report, but I suspect it still confounds some of the automated or semi-automated reporting systems.  In this case I reported 1.20” of rain at 6:00 P.M. on 6/28, and then another 0.04” at 6:00 A.M. on 6/29.  Thus the event total in the text is correct.  I wonder if the 0.5” on the map comes from some algorithm that tries to account for any deviations from the usual morning reporting times?  That had to be generated somewhere though, because there was never a 0.5” entered for any interval in my data.

 

In any event, technically this morning’s report is the final one for this month, so the liquid comes in at 10.96” for our station:

 

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There was no June record here, since this month’s total is still behind the 11.13” from a couple of Junes ago.  However, this wet month has pushed the June average liquid to 7.68” for the six seasons I have in my data set.  At halfway through the calendar year, precipitation for our site is now at 25.48”.  This month has helped catch up on liquid after the dry winter, but it’s still about an inch behind average using my data.

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Nittany, if you lurk in this thread, do you know if anyone in the WFO BTV is looking into the MVL precipitation gauge? 

 

Again today, light rain is its worst enemy as I've got 0.05" so far, MPV is showing 0.05", BTV with 0.02", while MVL shows "Trace" amounts each hour. 

 

I've figured that the issue has been in place since at least last fall, with MVL's obs consistently standing out against the rest in those light to moderate rain events.  This was back on November 7th.

 

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Kinda interesting start to the warm season...my averages so far...

 

May 2015 Max: 73.8 Min: 46.4 Avg: 60.1

Jun 2015 Max: 63.0 Min: 44.4 Avg: 53.7

 

We'll close that gap quite a bit this week, but if there was a year where we could pull off a cooler (max or mean) June than May it would be this. My May avg max was +6.9F and this June is running way below normal.

 

Looking at CON data back to 1903...these are the years where the avg max T in June were equal to or cooler than May...

 

1903

May: 71.7 June: 68.1

 

1918

May: 73.8 June: 71.7

 

1944

May: 76.0 June 76.0

 

1959

May: 74.9 June: 74.1

 

1975

May: 77.1 June: 77.1

 

1977

May: 75.1 June: 75.0

 

1918 was the only year where the June mean was cooler than the May mean (60.9 vs 61.0). This was the warmest May on record so this is the highest statistical chance in awhile to pull it off again.

Well we accomplished this with the avg maxes.

Month    Max  (Dep)  Min  (Dep)  Mean (Dep)
May 2015 73.8 (+7.6) 46.4 (+3.0) 60.1 (+5.2)
Jun 2015 71.3 (-3.1) 52.0 (-1.0) 61.6 (-2.1)

Not even close either.

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Hooray, it's a new month, the one with summer, sunshine, fireworks, boating, suntans, outdoor grillin!    Let's go outside and play!  Surely, it stopped raining and is sunny out, no?  What's that you say?  It's raining AGAIN??????  Mudderfluckker.... :underthewx::snorkle::raining::maprain::angry:

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Well we accomplished this with the avg maxes.

Month    Max  (Dep)  Min  (Dep)  Mean (Dep)
May 2015 73.8 (+7.6) 46.4 (+3.0) 60.1 (+5.2)
Jun 2015 71.3 (-3.1) 52.0 (-1.0) 61.6 (-2.1)

Not even close either.

 

Avg max AND avg temp here.  Not only is this the first time I've recorded an upside-down May-June temp sequence, my mildest May recorded (1976-on, Ft.Kent, Gardiner, and New Sharon) has been cooler than my coolest June, until now.   Mildest May:  56.34 in 1991 (Gardiner), coolest June:  56.80 in 1985 (Ft. Kent.)

 

Month...Max.....Min.....Mean

MAY....71.26...42.26...56.76

JUNE...66.00...46.67...56.33

 

June 2009, of the 21-for-22 rainy day streak, had a lower avg max (65.83) but an avg min of 49.00, mean 57.42.

 

Precip:  6.96", +1.37"   YTD is still only 84% of avg, but it was only 71% at the end of May.

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i was okay with the first nine inches of rain in June, but this last 0.3 inch or so today is killing me.

 

Holy crap have I had enough.  Spent the better part of last week working in the woods and needless to say, it's very very wet out there.  Every spring is bubbling and the ground is super-saturated.  Definitely need some drying days.  Poor folks trying to get hay in right now are having a hell of a time.

 

Shades of the summer of 2013 in progress--I had almost 25" of rain in the May-August period that year...

 

Looks pretty good for the next few days--after today, that is.

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Avg max AND avg temp here.  Not only is this the first time I've recorded an upside-down May-June temp sequence, my mildest May recorded (1976-on, Ft.Kent, Gardiner, and New Sharon) has been cooler than my coolest June, until now.   Mildest May:  56.34 in 1991 (Gardiner), coolest June:  56.80 in 1985 (Ft. Kent.)

 

Month...Max.....Min.....Mean

MAY....71.26...42.26...56.76

JUNE...66.00...46.67...56.33

 

June 2009, of the 21-for-22 rainy day streak, had a lower avg max (65.83) but an avg min of 49.00, mean 57.42.

 

Precip:  6.96", +1.37"   YTD is still only 84% of avg, but it was only 71% at the end of May.

Pretty impressive. Like I mentioned in that post, I could only find 1 year in the last 110+ where that happened at CON. Considering monthly averages climb about 10F/month in the Spring it's tough to do. It almost worked perfectly with the very warm May and then the flip to 40s for highs 6/1-6/2.

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