Thrasher Fan Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Wrapping up again big time west of Shawnee. ....and still no TOR warnings in the area. Sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Nothing all month and things just exploding tonight in OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disc Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 ....and still no TOR warnings in the area. Sigh No reason to right now. Little to no rotation at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeEater Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 No reason to right now. Little to no rotation at the moment.Yup, was a nice hook, but didn't show much on velocity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormsfury Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Glass door shattered on 1st floor where the Tulsa WFO resides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 People are absolutely destroying OUN on their facebook page already. They had just posted about 20 minutes before the tornado that the storms will have little to no tornado potential. I saw the same tweet. Said no warnings west of OKC and none expected, all storms were well behind cold front. 30 min later, tornado in Moore. Oops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indystorm Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Hopefully these remaining storms will line up and become outflow dominant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I saw the same tweet. Said no warnings west of OKC and none expected, all storms were well behind cold front. 30 min later, tornado in Moore. Oops Yeah, the problem is they didn't expect the storms to catch the front. When you work in definite terms you corner yourself into getting it wrong more often than not. They should have seen the front slowing down and the storm accelerating eastward though. When that started to happen the tornado potential increased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewxmann Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Yeah, the problem is they didn't expect the storms to catch the front. When you work in definite terms you corner yourself into getting it wrong more often than not. They should have seen the front slowing down and the storm accelerating eastward though. When that started to happen the tornado potential increased. 9 out of 10 times the storms don't catch up to the front because the outflow reinforces the cold frontal surge, but the one time you say the storms are not going to catch up is the 1 out of 10 times that they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Yeah, the problem is they didn't expect the storms to catch the front. When you work in definite terms you corner yourself into getting it wrong more often than not. They should have seen the front slowing down and the storm accelerating eastward though. When that started to happen the tornado potential increased. Saw on Twitter that apparently the sirens went off in the city before the actual warning was issued. TV mets were all over it while Norman played catch up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Saw on Twitter that apparently the sirens went off in the city before the actual warning was issued. TV mets were all over it while Norman played catch up. Yeah I was watching the feeds, pretty incredible. But the thing they have that NWS doesn't have is eyes in the sky, the choppers were on this thing very fast. 9 out of 10 times the storms don't catch up to the front because the outflow reinforces the cold frontal surge, but the one time you say the storms are not going to catch up is the 1 out of 10 times that they do. Very true, but the big thing I have learned when it comes to making forecasts. Try not to use definite language. There is always that time it will not work out for you. If they had said the tornado thread was low/very low at the present time, that would have been better. It at least allows for the opportunity of ramping up if and when needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Just incredible I don't think I've seen so many power flashes in one clip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natester Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 James Aydelott @jamesaydelott 12m12 minutes ago Tragic news, @FOX23 able to confirm one tornado fatality near Sand Springs. http://www.fox23.com/news/news/local/dozens-homes-destroyed-sand-springs/nkfXr/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indystorm Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Fayetteville may be under the gun shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OUGrad05 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 James Aydelott @jamesaydelott 12m12 minutes ago Tragic news, @FOX23 able to confirm one tornado fatality near Sand Springs. http://www.fox23.com/news/news/local/dozens-homes-destroyed-sand-springs/nkfXr/ No power here, tethered to my phone so limited bandwidth. Not good. Western AR needs to stay weather aware the next couple of hours. I'm streaming some local news here in Tulsa, definitely some damage in/around the Sand Springs area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Just incredible I don't think I've seen so many power flashes in one clip. Wow... that's rather apocalyptic-looking. Certainly more activity today than I anticipated, I'll admit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeEater Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Reported TOG west of Fayetteville, per 4029tv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OUGrad05 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Wow... that's rather apocalyptic-looking. Certainly more activity today than I anticipated, I'll admit. I agree, I chose not to chase today...oops. Wondering if we won't have an active spring though. So far this year as a nation has been very very quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernNJ Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Still a few good storms out there. The one near Harrison and Bergman AR has a solid circulation on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxKevinM Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 So I believe 2-3 confirmed today thus far? One thing I will say, which I saw by Stebo, it is hard to be 100% definite when issuing a forcast, no matter how experienced the forecaster(s) is(are). I didn't catch everything that went down in Moore as I was desktop chasing Tulsa region, but I and a few others I talked kind of thought those that were blowing up near OKC were going to be completely undercut and not yeild much other that wind and hail. Just goes to show how hard it is still to forecast/nowcast these systems given the unprecidented amount of data we can get these days. Thought's with those in the OKC and Tulsa regions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 So I believe 2-3 confirmed today thus far? One thing I will say, which I saw by Stebo, it is hard to be 100% definite when issuing a forcast, no matter how experienced the forecaster(s) is(are). I didn't catch everything that went down in Moore as I was desktop chasing Tulsa region, but I and a few others I talked kind of thought those that were blowing up near OKC were going to be completely undercut and not yeild much other that wind and hail. Just goes to show how hard it is still to forecast/nowcast these systems given the unprecidented amount of data we can get these days. Thought's with those in the OKC and Tulsa regions. This point confuses me a little. I've heard several times today that the cells were only able to produce strong mesos after they caught up with the front. What am I overlooking? Were there two distinct boundaries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indystorm Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 This point confuses me a little. I've heard several times today that the cells were only able to produce strong mesos after they caught up with the front. What am I overlooking? Were there two distinct boundaries? When the storms caught up with the front they were able to tap into moisture rich boundary inflow from the south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 This point confuses me a little. I've heard several times today that the cells were only able to produce strong mesos after they caught up with the front. What am I overlooking? Were there two distinct boundaries? Basically when they were behind the front the cold air at the surface creates an inversion and you can't get the surface buoyancy to produce the tornadoes, once the storm caught the front the air mass didn't have an inversion and had ample buoyancy to produce tornadoes. The Tulsa cells were ahead of the front as was the one in AR which is why it was able to produce tornadoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Basically when they were behind the front the cold air at the surface creates an inversion and you can't get the surface buoyancy to produce the tornadoes, once the storm caught the front the air mass didn't have an inversion and had ample buoyancy to produce tornadoes. The Tulsa cells were ahead of the front as was the one in AR which is why it was able to produce tornadoes. That makes sense. Thanks for the explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Just incredible I don't think I've seen so many power flashes in one clip. Wow 25 seconds to the end was crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Is it even worth having an above ground home in Moore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgidd8 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Screenshot from the brief video I got of the Sand Springs tornado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettjrob Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 Screenshot from the brief video I got of the Sand Springs tornado. Very nice. This certainly exceeded the expectations I had for today's event by this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Well this is interesting... https://twitter.com/NWSNorman/status/580876216904744961 Followed by: https://twitter.com/NWSNorman/status/580876799241904129 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huronicane Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Some tornado stats for a few Tornado Alley cities...because there will be talk of how unlucky Moore is: Numbers came from NCDC Storm Data and local NWS Forecast Office Pages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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