Brian5671 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 If it was us two, we would. Kids have been in an airport since 7am ugh. I feel your pain. Travel with young kids is tough enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Pretty intense gusts for the past hour--have to be pushing 50-60mph. Lost 2 downspout gutters that detached and a birch snapped. I'm in kind of sheltered area too, haven't seen much wind at all since I moved here in NOV. You are in a prime SE downslope wind spot there on the west slope. Up here all those towns that get great west side upslope usually get a couple severe SE wind events throughout the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 If you're along the western slopes of the Greens as your location icon suggests, you're in a prime SE-downslope zone. Why are the SE events produce damaging winds but NW flow doesn't do the same on the east side? SE events have stronger llvl jets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backedgeapproaching Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 If you're along the western slopes of the Greens as your location icon suggests, you're in a prime SE-downslope zone. You are in a prime SE downslope wind spot there on the west slope. Up here all those towns that get great west side upslope usually get a couple severe SE wind events throughout the year. Thanks guys, I guess that explains it. Its been pretty severe for a few hours now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klw Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Why are the SE events produce damaging winds but NW flow doesn't do the same on the east side? SE events have stronger llvl jets? Could it be that the Mtns are steeper to the west so there is less interference in the downward flow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Could it be that the Mtns are steeper to the west so there is less interference in the downward flow? I was wondering that, but the Greens are pretty steep on both sides no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I'm about 200 feet down the west slope of a 790' foot hill. Why can't I have any downslope wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlantStickers Anonymous Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I'm pro-cold and raw weather until summer break starts. Makes everyone glum and bitter around campus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 We pour, fire weather cancel this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Tell that to this past weekend. Hundreds of fires regionwide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Up to 1.75" of rain here! Impressive deluge today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Up to 1.75" of rain here! Impressive deluge today. That is the most in the state. DXR with .76 BDL .65 New London .24 .74 here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Wind gusts so far in the 50s in the Burlington suburbs and west slope communities. ... Chittenden County... 1 ENE Underhill Center 56 mph 0208 PM 04/20 44.52n/72.87w Nashville 1 E 53 mph 1223 PM 04/20 44.45n/72.93w Huntington 52 mph 0232 PM 04/20 44.29n/72.97w Burlington Intl Airport 47 mph 0330 PM 04/20 44.47n/73.15w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 crickets in the philly thread with a TORCON of 4, and twc has a live action reporter.....if it was up here this thread be hopping lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 crickets in the philly thread with a TORCON of 4, and twc has a live action reporter.....if it was up here this thread be hopping lol 70 dBZ over the freezing level just crossing into southern PA right now. I'd hit that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I was wondering that, but the Greens are pretty steep on both sides no? They are but there's secondary ridgelines so maybe that's what stops it? Like from Mansfield it drops to 700ft but then goes back up to 3,500ft on the Worecester ridge...all within the town of Stowe from west to east. So the air maybe doesn't have time to mix fully before it has to lift again? I guess the west slopes can provide much "cleaner" down/up slope flows...but it is interesting how that works. And it seems to happen better on SE winds rather than pure easterly flow or NE flow. Even in strong nor'easters, you don't hear about 60kts at H850 out of the NE causing downslope wind events. But 60kts out of the SE and there's damaging 50+ mph gusts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Tell that to this past weekend. Hundreds of fires regionwidelink? But what's that got to do with today's deluge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 70 dBZ over the freezing level just crossing into southern PA right now. I'd hit that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 So close to the watch but so far. Stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Stormy now winds ripping pouring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 crickets in the philly thread with a TORCON of 4, and twc has a live action reporter.....if it was up here this thread be hopping lol A certain couple of former staff stole quite a few posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Deluge after deluge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 They are but there's secondary ridgelines so maybe that's what stops it? Like from Mansfield it drops to 700ft but then goes back up to 3,500ft on the Worecester ridge...all within the town of Stowe from west to east. So the air maybe doesn't have time to mix fully before it has to lift again? I guess the west slopes can provide much "cleaner" down/up slope flows...but it is interesting how that works. And it seems to happen better on SE winds rather than pure easterly flow or NE flow. Even in strong nor'easters, you don't hear about 60kts at H850 out of the NE causing downslope wind events. But 60kts out of the SE and there's damaging 50+ mph gusts. There have to be some static stability issues at play too I would imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 This is just stupid now...beyond stupid. Wore a big sweatshirt on my way to the bus to class that covered my backpack...but I got wet...got wet going from the bus to class, from class to the bus then walking from the bus to work then work to the bus then the bus to the bar ahhhhhhhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 A certain couple of former staff stole quite a few posters. lol really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Drove down to my folks place in Albany, NY and they live 2 miles away from where a massive landslide took place today (at least 200 yards across). It is now blocking the Normanskill River, which is flooding the golf course upstream...water downstream has come to a stop. It's very odd to drive over the bridge separating Albany and Bethlehem and see no water, but that's what's happening haha. http://timesunion.com/news/article/Normans-Kill-blocked-by-collapses-bank-flooding-6211387.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Thinking we may TOR tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Good thing I out fertizer down yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Why are the SE events produce damaging winds but NW flow doesn't do the same on the east side? SE events have stronger llvl jets? You do get them to an extent. During some of the northwest flow events you'll see the MPV ob along with some Johnson and Stowe obs (I think you've noted it a few times too) have some pretty strong gusts in the 30-40 mph range. But they'll just never get to the intensity of the SE downslope winds, likely because of: 1.) Intensity of the LLJ, its not terribly uncommon to see 50-90 knot low level jets out of the SE. I think we were pushing 70 knots today, but luckily for those western slope communities, those strongest winds were above the inversion. You'd be really hard pressed to ever find a NW LLJ over 50 knots. 2.) The orientation of the terrain is much more conducive for the western slopes in the same it is for upslope. That is a sharp barrier on the western side, rather than the more varied terrain leading up the east side. 3.) The location of the low level jet in relation to the inversion and sharp mountain gradient that is necessary for downslope winds and mountain wave breaking. The best downslope winds also tend to happen in WAA regimes due to the increased stability and, especially locally because there's a critical level above mountain top where the winds veer to south (parallel the mountain, which is a critical level for mountain wave breaking). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 You do get them to an extent. During some of the northwest flow events you'll see the MPV ob along with some Johnson and Stowe obs (I think you've noted it a few times too) have some pretty strong gusts in the 30-40 mph range. But they'll just never get to the intensity of the SE downslope winds, likely because of: 1.) Intensity of the LLJ, its not terribly uncommon to see 50-90 knot low level jets out of the SE. I think we were pushing 70 knots today, but luckily for those western slope communities, those strongest winds were above the inversion. You'd be really hard pressed to ever find a NW LLJ over 50 knots. 2.) The orientation of the terrain is much more conducive for the western slopes in the same it is for upslope. That is a sharp barrier on the western side, rather than the more varied terrain leading up the east side. 3.) The location of the low level jet in relation to the inversion and sharp mountain gradient that is necessary for downslope winds and mountain wave breaking. The best downslope winds also tend to happen in WAA regimes due to the increased stability and, especially locally because there's a critical level above mountain top where the winds veer to south (parallel the mountain, which is a critical level for mountain wave breaking). It's long but NWS WDTB has a good pdf on downslope winds: http://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/winterawoc/documents/color_PDFs/IC8_Lesson1.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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