sferic Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 How about April 25th, 1983? NYC had winter storm warnings hoisted and we received a couple of inches of snow as NW Jersey received over half a foot. Anybody recall this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Disagree. Don't see the pleasure in 45-50F and rain. I'd rather it be snow. Gonna have to agree strongly here. If it is going to rain, I'd rather it'd be 60+ out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Well, well, what have we here? That's 3 significant storms in April in the last 33 years. Extremely rare? Hardly. I had completely forgotten about this one. Thank you Northshore. Well, well, I believe we were discussing NYC proper (i.e. KNYC), and 0.7" does not constitute significant by any reasonable stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Well, well, I believe we were discussing NYC proper (i.e. KNYC), and 0.7" does not constitute significant by any reasonable stretch. Well, well, well, the last time I checked JFK was part of NYC, and 4.0 inches or up is significant for April 10th. Unless there has been a successful cession movement in southern Queens in the last 24 hours that I'm not aware of I believe the storm Northshore referenced qualifies. And I’m not even mentioning the storms Isotherm referenced. Three storms in 33 years hardly qualifies as extremely rare, and that's just in NYC proper. If we expand beyond those borders the floodgates really open. However as I said earlier maybe it's just semantics and 3 significant storms in 33 years qualifies as extremely rare by your definition. It's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Well, well, well, the last time I checked JFK was part of NYC, and 4.0 inches or up is significant for April 10th. Unless there has been a successful cession movement in southern Queens in the last 24 hours that I'm not aware of I believe the storm Northshore referenced qualifies. And I’m not even mentioning the storms Isotherm referenced. Three storms in 33 years hardly qualifies as extremely rare, and that's just in NYC proper. If we expand beyond those borders the floodgates really open. However as I said earlier maybe it's just semantics and 3 significant storms in 33 years qualifies as extremely rare by your definition. It's all good. The one thing that you can say is the 6" or greater April snowfalls in NYC have become very rare after WW2. NYC April 6" snows 1875 1915 1917 1924 1938 1944 1982 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 How about April 25th, 1983? NYC had winter storm warnings hoisted and we received a couple of inches of snow as NW Jersey received over half a foot. Anybody recall this? I do (the snow....not the WSW) . 2" on LI. I also recall one around that same date in April 1986 that was rain in NYC but up to 20" in a few locations in western NJ. EDIT: Video from 4/23/1986 (I-84 in the Poconos shut down): http://wnep.com/2012/04/23/april-snowstorm-1986/ More on this storm: http://philadelphiaweather.blogspot.com/2012/04/weather-history-april-1986-snow.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 The only thing that I'm hoping for is active weather if it's going to be warm. And yeah I wouldn't get so giddy about consistent warmth for all you coastal folks either with a still frigid ocean out there. Too many times have forecasts called for warm and sunny only to end up 50 or lower and foggy and showery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 It will be interesting to see the new Euro weeklies as the CFS has the -EPO returning for late April after a brief hiatus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 It will be interesting to see the new Euro weeklies as the CFS has the -EPO returning for late April after a brief hiatus. cfs-avg_z500a5d_nhem_5.png Let's hope not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeWeatherGeek Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Let's hope not-epo would be great in April and the rest of spring and summer for all I care. It would result a cooler than average summer which is always good. Who in their right minds likes 99 degrees with 50% humidity or higher. Come on. A negative epo would give us an average to even below average summer like last summer. Last summer was actually decent! Only one heat wave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 We really don't need to debate the merits of summer heat every time somebody posts about the long range. It was fun the first dozen times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Still think we'll see flakes tomorrow evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnionWeatherWx Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Still think we'll see flakes tomorrow evening. Same, more in NWNJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Gonna have to agree strongly here. If it is going to rain, I'd rather it'd be 60+ out.Could care less about temps, I want a rain storm that drops 3"+ areawide. The last big rain event out here was Irene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsplex Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Could care less about temps, I want a rain storm that drops 3"+ areawide. The last big rain event out here was Irene. Why do you want this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Why do you want this? I'm sure we'd all rather have a nice pyroclastic flow event, but a torrential rainstorm is the next best thing I suppose. Why do you care what he wants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 ECMWF weeklies flip the pattern to a predominately +EPO for mid and late April, effectively erasing the arctic chill from W Canada. However, I don't like the persistent negative height anomalies progged over SE Canada throughout the period. This tends to implicate surface high pressure hanging out near Maine/Nova Scotia, and given the snow cover / cold SST's, that high pressure will probably be enhanced more than usual. In fact, it's a pretty unfavorable look for New England / coastal Northeast sustained warmth prospects. I think we're definitely going to see a significant improvement, but we're going to be very backdoor prone w/ the SE Canadian trough pattern. We'll probably be back and forth / near normal overall for mid/late April w/ the warmth trying to balloon from the SW and backdoors fighting down the coast. April's final temp departures are liable to be colder than normal for the Northeast US due to a chilly Apr 1-10, and enough cooling from backdoors to prevent prolonged positive departures. The CFS V2 illustrates this well. I like its depiction overall for the CONUS. ECMWF weeklies backdoor potential with the cool air lurking to our NE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeWeatherGeek Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Look at the GFS yes warm but I think NYC and east to Long Island changes to some snow tomorrow night... Coating to an inch. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 The Gfs and Nam show a more organized, stronger system so a changeover to snow is possible. I don't expect any accumulation but a trace of snow is probable. Elevation will help greatly with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 How about April 25th, 1983? NYC had winter storm warnings hoisted and we received a couple of inches of snow as NW Jersey received over half a foot. Anybody recall this? Close, it was actually April 19th - 20th, 1983. Up to 3 inches on Long Island. Albany had 8 inches before they went to rain...New England was mostly rain as the storm hugged the coast...huge snows in the Poconos & NW Jersey. Really, just two days prior to this storm, there was a flooding rainstorm over Jersey that changed to snow in NW CT and put down up to 8 inches or so in Litchfield County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxWeatherwatcher Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 hmm that little shortwave looks juicy and falling dew points with incoming cold,i like my chances for a bit of snow around here later on tonight.might bare watching because no one has even mentioned a possible rapid bomb developing once it hits the open waters of the Atlantic. n.y.c and l.i are in the positive bust zone with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 0z Euro backed off the highs for Friday a bit as the storm will track a little closer to the region with less WAA during the day. Day 6-10 also shows high pressure pressing from the north as the warm front approaches so there are back door issues. This is how the SST's in the upper 30's come into play with very cool onshore flow just ahead of where the warm front stalls out. It's the type of back door pattern with troughing near or just east of New England that the CFS is picking up on for April. At this time during 2012 the SST's were in the upper 40's instead of the upper 30's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sferic Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Close, it was actually April 19th - 20th, 1983. Up to 3 inches on Long Island. Albany had 8 inches before they went to rain...New England was mostly rain as the storm hugged the coast...huge snows in the Poconos & NW Jersey. Really, just two days prior to this storm, there was a flooding rainstorm over Jersey that changed to snow in NW CT and put down up to 8 inches or so in Litchfield County. You are 100% right, it was 4.19 to 4.20 1983 I do believe though that was the latest date a WSW was ever hoisted for NYC though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Clipper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 6z GFS for the clipper shows 1-3 for the NYC area with more to the north on the snowfall map Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelocita Weather Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 Looks like an elevation dependent nice snowstorm for areas above about 300-400'. Would not be surprised for many tonight at the level or higher to have a good 2"-4"...maybe a coating to 1/2" near sea level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelocita Weather Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 What a little storm....32F and mod/heavy snow in State College, 50F in Harrisburgh, and pushing 70F in DC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgwp96 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 started snowing here from the start and get this with the temp at 44 when it started Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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