ShawnEastTN Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 12Z NAM also seems to show the colder air penetrating faster into the moisture with longer duration of frozen precip for all of TN including East Tennessee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stovepipe Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 If you look at the last four runs of the NAM you can see the southward movement. My question is, what are your thoughts on this continuing say for example, into the Nashville area? Nashville looks great to me for frozen, no clue how much snow will pan out. The RAP sim radar is starting to get into range but it should be taken with a grain of salt until 8 hours out or so. Have to keep an eye on it throughout the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnEastTN Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Nashville looks great to me for frozen, no clue how much snow will pan out. The RAP sim radar is starting to get into range but it should be taken with a grain of salt until 8 hours out or so. Have to keep an eye on it throughout the day. The RAP seems pretty close to the NAM with the freezing line penetrating pretty far and fast into the precip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stovepipe Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 The 12z NAM p-type maps show sleet primarily with some snow on the back end, very little freezing rain at the onset. It does show all of that changing back over to light rain statewide as it moves out. No clue if that is accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 NAM/WRF 80Km FORECAST FOR: MEM LAT= 35.05 LON= -90.00 ELE= 285 TMP PRESSURE LEVELS SFC 1000 950 900 850 800 750 700 650 600 WED 7A 04-MAR 13 14 14 13 12 9 6 2 0 -3 WED 1P 04-MAR 8 7 4 10 8 5 3 -1 -3 WED 7P 04-MAR 0 -1 -5 1 7 6 4 3 0 -4 THU 1A 05-MAR -2 -3 -7 -4 2 3 2 2 0 -4 THU 7A 05-MAR -4 -6 -10 -9 -4 -2 -1 0 -2 -5 THU 1P 05-MAR -3 -6 -10 -10 -6 -3 -2 -3 -5 -7 THU 7P 05-MAR -4 -5 -9 -10 -6 -5 -3 -3 -5 -7 NAM/WRF 80Km FORECAST FOR: BNA LAT= 36.12 LON= -86.68 ELE= 591 TMP PRESSURE LEVELS SFC 1000 950 900 850 800 750 700 650 600 WED 7A 04-MAR 12 13 10 11 10 8 5 2 0 -4 WED 1P 04-MAR 10 10 7 10 9 6 2 -1 -4 WED 7P 04-MAR 2 2 -1 -1 6 6 5 3 0 -3 THU 1A 05-MAR -2 -2 -5 -5 0 2 2 1 -1 -4 THU 7A 05-MAR -4 -5 -8 -9 -3 0 -1 -1 -1 -5 THU 1P 05-MAR -4 -5 -9 -11 -6 -4 -3 -3 -4 -6 THU 7P 05-MAR -5 -5 -8 -12 -7 -6 -5 -4 -5 -7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnEastTN Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 The 12z NAM p-type maps show sleet primarily with some snow on the back end, very little freezing rain at the onset. It does show all of that changing back over to light rain statewide as it moves out. No clue if that is accurate. I wonder if that change back over to light rain, is related to diurnal temp fluctuations. Probably is, I also think that is why it shows the freezing line moving so quickly south and east essentially gobbling up all of the precip across the state during the overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnweathernut Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Man, the RGEM just refuses to show much snow in west and parts of middle TN. It shows quite a bit of sleet (over 1" of QPF northern middle TN), which would total 3 inches of sleet across much of the area around Nashville. Quite a bit different than some of the other modeling. It will be fascination to watch this play out. Parts of west TN are showing over 6 inches.......................... of sleet, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 sref bumped BNA up to 4"..3" for MEM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnEastTN Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 12Z GFS seems to be showing a narrower band of zr, with larger band of snow as it crosses the state, on its ptype map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 The RAP seems pretty close to the NAM with the freezing line penetrating pretty far and fast into the precip. No warm nose at 700mb on the GFS AT 6Z unlike the NAM showed,it's now down to 800mb 1c,this is for BNA.MEM still is showing the 850-700 mb 1-2C same time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGENATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NASHVILLE TN1128 AM CST WED MAR 4 2015 ...A WINTER STORM WARNING HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR ALL OF MIDDLETENNESSEE... .A STRONG UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL BRING PLENTY OFRAIN TO THE MID STATE TODAY...WITH PRECIPITATION CHANGING TO A MIX OFFREEZING RAIN AND SLEET OVER THE NORTHWEST DURING THE AFTERNOONHOURS. DURING THE EVENING AND OVERNIGHT...AS COLDER AIR SPREADSSOUTHWARD...YOU CAN EXPECT THE RAIN TO CHANGE TO A MIX OF FREEZINGRAIN AND SLEET OVER THE REST OF MIDDLE TENNESSEE...AND THEN TO AMIX OF SNOW AND SLEET OVER MOST AREAS BY LATE NIGHT. THE MAINEXCEPTION WILL BE OVER SOME SOUTHERN AREAS...WHERE PRECIPITATIONMAY NOT MIX WITH SNOW UNTIL EARLY THURSDAY MORNING. AREAS NEAR ANDSOUTH OF A LINE FROM CROSSVILLE TO LAWRENCEBURG WILL PROBABLY SEEWINTRY PRECIPITATION STAY MAINLY IN THE FORM OF SLEET AND FREEZINGRAIN TONIGHT. FOLKS IN THIS AREA...WHERE POTENTIAL IS GREATEST FORAN EXTENDED PERIOD OF FREEZING RAIN...SHOULD REMAIN ALERT TO ANYCHANGE IN THE FORECAST REGARDING ICE ACCUMULATION AS UP TO AQUARTER OF AN INCH OF ICE IS POSSIBLE. MOST OF THE AREA IS EXPECTED TO SEE SNOWFALL AND SLEET ACCUMULATIONSBETWEEN 2 TO 6 INCHES...WITH MOST FREEZING RAIN CAUSING ICEACCUMULATION AROUND A TENTH OF AN INCH. AREAS SOUTH OF INTERSTATE40...ESPECIALLY AREAS NEAR THE ALABAMA BORDER...MAY SEE ICEACCUMULATIONS AROUND A TENTH OF AN INCH UP TO A QUARTER OF ANINCH. MAJOR TRAVEL IMPACTS ARE EXPECTED TO START DEVELOPING OVER THENORTHWEST AND HIGHLAND RIM BY MID TO LATE AFTERNOON TODAY...WITHTRAVEL CONDITIONS DETERIORATING OVER OTHER AREAS TONIGHT...AS THEWINTRY PRECIPITATION SPREADS FURTHER TO THE SOUTH AND EAST. INFACT...MAJOR TRAVEL IMPACTS WILL LIKELY LAST ALL THE WAY INTOFRIDAY AFTERNOON SINCE TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED TO REMAIN BELOWTHE FREEZING MARK THURSDAY AND MUCH OF FRIDAY. LOW TEMPERATURESFRIDAY MORNING ARE EXPECTED TO RANGE FROM THE SINGLE DIGITS INTOTHE TEENS. TNZ056>063-075-077>080-093>095-050600-/O.UPG.KOHX.WW.Y.0004.150305T0300Z-150305T1800Z//O.EXB.KOHX.WS.W.0004.150305T0300Z-150305T1800Z/PERRY-HICKMAN-LEWIS-WILLIAMSON-MAURY-MARSHALL-RUTHERFORD-CANNON-BEDFORD-COFFEE-WARREN-GRUNDY-VAN BUREN-WAYNE-LAWRENCE-GILES-INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...LOBELVILLE...CENTERVILLE...HOHENWALD...FRANKLIN...BRENTWOOD...COLUMBIA...LEWISBURG...MURFREESBORO...WOODBURY...SHELBYVILLE...TULLAHOMA...MANCHESTER...MCMINNVILLE...ALTAMONT...SPENCER...WAYNESBORO...LAWRENCEBURG...PULASKI1128 AM CST WED MAR 4 2015 ...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 9 PM THIS EVENING TO NOONCST THURSDAY... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NASHVILLE HAS ISSUED A WINTERSTORM WARNING FOR 1 TO 3 INCHES OF SNOW AND SLEET AS WELL AS UP TOA QUARTER INCH OF ICE...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 9 PM THIS EVENINGTO NOON CST THURSDAY. THE WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IS NO LONGER INEFFECT. * TIMING...FROM 9 PM CST WEDNESDAY THROUGH NOON CST THURSDAY. * ACCUMULATIONS...1 TO 3 INCHES OF SNOW AND SLEET ARE EXPECTED WITH THE HIGHEST AMOUNTS CLOSER TO INTERSTATE 40 AND LOWEST AMOUNTS NEAR THE ALABAMA BORDER. FREEZING RAIN ACCUMULATIONS ARE EXPECTED TO BE AROUND A TENTH OF AN INCH TO A QUARTER OF AN INCH...WITH THE HIGHER AMOUNTS OF ICE TO BE FARTHER TO THE SOUTH. * MAIN IMPACT...PRECIPITATION WILL MAINLY BE RAIN DURING THE DAY TODAY...THEN MIX WITH FREEZING RAIN AND SLEET DURING THE LATE AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING. SNOW SHOULD MIX IN WITH THE PRECIPITATION IN MOST AREAS OVERNIGHT. THIS MIXED PRECIPITATION WILL CREATE MAJOR TRAVEL IMPACTS FROM LATE WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH FRIDAY AFTERNOON. * OTHER IMPACTS...TEMPERATURES ARE LIKELY TO STAY BELOW FREEZING FROM WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH MID DAY FRIDAY. THIS WILL LIKELY KEEP MANY ROADWAYS SLICK AND HAZARDOUS FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnEastTN Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Seems the surface front is now on the doorstep of East Tennessee, and the surface sub-freezing line is now inching into NW TN. Edit: If you overlay the radar with the surface temps, the majority of the precip with this is falling from the surface subfreezing line and northwest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnEastTN Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 John has your wind switched around up in Campbell county? Do we have anyone who lives near Union City or Dyersburg on the forum who can keep us posted with OBS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrgjeff Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 OHX adding all of Middle Tennessee to the WS Warning kind of tells the story. Looks like more ice accum southern Middle Tenn. Can't argue with more snow northern Middle Tenn. Ground truth in Kentucky, according to EMs and spotters, is a quick trans through freezing rain to sleet and snow. Nashville area snow lovers, wish this is the case down your way too. Memphis better hope that trend holds there because you got a lot of qpf in the hours between surface freezing and whole column freezing. Data points to mostly sleet and snow, so keeping ice glaze at/below .25" seems reasonable. North Alabama and East Tennessee is most interesting. Very back wave behind front now shown with more moisture Thursday morning daylight hours. Models perked up in North Texas and even central Texas with our feature upstream. One would look for that to verify. Wave in question is still digging in the southern Rockies, as of Noon Wednesday. Still the main moisture and robust waves pass over before 12Z Thursday. I have a hard time forecasting ice in Chattanooga post frontal with a weaker last wave like this. The only path is such deep cold air does roll over the Plateau. Look for sleet instead of ZR upstream for Chatty. Knoxvegas has better odds for sleet and snow. Tri Cities is a mess with that 800-700 mb warm layer hanging for so long. Note on model charts valid 12Z Thursday the 850 zero line is under greater than 552 thickness in northeast Tenn. Chart indicates warm air above 850 mb. Should be mainly sleet, not ZR, and still eventually ending as snow TRI. We'll see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnEastTN Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Thank you Jeff! I do wonder about ETN with this storm, generally speaking we don't see much with these but the pressure gradient with that strong High coming down out of the plains makes me wonder if we will actually do better than the average with this set up, and actually get decent spill over the plateau. I can't wait to watch what happens as the sub-freezing moves against the plateau tonight. Telling will be how quickly the surface cold makes it from the lower elevations on the west side of the plateau to places like Crossville. If it makes it pretty rapidly up the plateau then I think spill over will also be much more dramatic than normal from these type of storms. It'll be fun to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 ECMWF Deterministic FORECAST FOR: CHA LAT= 35.03 LON= -85.20 ELE= 689 00Z MAR04 2 M 2 M 2 M SFC SFC 6 HR FROZN TOTAL MXT MNT TMP DEW WIND QPF PCP CLOUD (F) (F) (F) (F) (KTS) (IN) (IN) (PCT)WED 00Z 04-MAR 51.1 49.7 17006 100 WED 06Z 04-MAR 55.6 50.0 55.8 55.4 17008 0.06 0.00 100 WED 12Z 04-MAR 60.6 55.8 60.3 59.8 20008 0.17 0.00 100 WED 18Z 04-MAR 69.2 60.2 69.5 59.5 22013 0.04 0.00 93 THU 00Z 05-MAR 71.3 61.2 60.2 55.3 26003 0.04 0.00 97 THU 06Z 05-MAR 60.3 39.4 39.3 38.5 02008 0.19 0.00 100 THU 12Z 05-MAR 39.2 31.7 31.2 29.3 00011 0.15 0.04 100 THU 18Z 05-MAR 31.2 25.4 26.9 18.4 35011 0.23 0.21 100 FRI 00Z 06-MAR 31.3 25.3 25.6 14.2 01008 0.00 0.00 97 FRI 06Z 06-MAR 26.2 19.7 20.1 8.8 01008 0.00 0.00 0 FRI 12Z 06-MAR 20.2 18.7 18.6 5.5 03007 0.00 0.00 2 Colder looking now for CHA,euro says so anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1122 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I haven't gotten nearly the warmth most of you have. It's currently 50 degrees here. Looks like many of you are mid 60s to low 70s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 ECMWF Deterministic FORECAST FOR: TRI LAT= 36.47 LON= -82.40 ELE= 1519 00Z MAR04 2 M 2 M 2 M SFC SFC 6 HR FROZN TOTAL MXT MNT TMP DEW WIND QPF PCP CLOUD (F) (F) (F) (F) (KTS) (IN) (IN) (PCT)WED 00Z 04-MAR 50.4 47.9 20004 100 WED 06Z 04-MAR 50.7 48.3 49.4 48.5 20004 0.17 0.00 99 WED 12Z 04-MAR 52.3 47.3 52.1 51.2 23006 0.10 0.00 99 WED 18Z 04-MAR 62.3 52.1 62.8 59.4 22008 0.09 0.00 88 THU 00Z 05-MAR 68.5 47.6 47.2 45.2 01006 0.03 0.00 100 THU 06Z 05-MAR 47.2 33.1 33.0 31.5 01006 0.11 0.01 100 THU 12Z 05-MAR 33.0 26.3 25.9 20.7 36009 0.05 0.05 100 THU 18Z 05-MAR 25.9 19.7 19.6 13.9 35006 0.31 0.30 100 FRI 00Z 06-MAR 20.3 16.9 16.8 11.2 34004 0.05 0.05 100 FRI 06Z 06-MAR 16.8 10.2 11.2 2.8 04004 0.00 0.00 3 FRI 12Z 06-MAR 11.5 4.7 5.3 -5.7 04004 0.00 0.00 1 ECMWF Deterministic FORECAST FOR: TYS LAT= 35.82 LON= -83.98 ELE= 981 00Z MAR04 2 M 2 M 2 M SFC SFC 6 HR FROZN TOTAL MXT MNT TMP DEW WIND QPF PCP CLOUD (F) (F) (F) (F) (KTS) (IN) (IN) (PCT)WED 00Z 04-MAR 53.3 51.3 20007 100 WED 06Z 04-MAR 57.1 52.1 57.2 56.0 20009 0.07 0.00 100 WED 12Z 04-MAR 59.0 57.1 59.0 58.1 22010 0.14 0.00 98 WED 18Z 04-MAR 67.2 59.0 67.5 58.8 22014 0.05 0.00 90 THU 00Z 05-MAR 69.8 50.2 49.2 48.0 34008 0.15 0.00 100 THU 06Z 05-MAR 49.3 35.4 35.3 34.7 02007 0.18 0.00 100 THU 12Z 05-MAR 35.3 27.2 26.9 22.9 01010 0.13 0.09 100 THU 18Z 05-MAR 26.9 20.8 21.3 15.6 36009 0.29 0.26 100 FRI 00Z 06-MAR 23.8 17.3 17.0 10.7 03008 0.01 0.01 89 FRI 06Z 06-MAR 17.3 11.2 13.1 4.8 04007 0.00 0.00 0 FRI 12Z 06-MAR 13.1 10.3 10.5 0.9 03006 0.00 0.00 0 ECMWF Deterministic FORECAST FOR: CSV LAT= 35.95 LON= -85.08 ELE= 1880 00Z MAR04 2 M 2 M 2 M SFC SFC 6 HR FROZN TOTAL MXT MNT TMP DEW WIND QPF PCP CLOUD (F) (F) (F) (F) (KTS) (IN) (IN) (PCT)WED 00Z 04-MAR 51.4 49.8 19009 100 WED 06Z 04-MAR 54.6 51.0 54.7 54.4 19011 0.09 0.00 100 WED 12Z 04-MAR 58.7 54.7 58.6 58.1 22010 0.28 0.00 100 WED 18Z 04-MAR 65.0 57.4 61.3 58.4 24008 0.12 0.00 99 THU 00Z 05-MAR 61.4 38.7 38.3 37.7 35009 0.38 0.00 100 THU 06Z 05-MAR 38.3 31.5 31.5 29.6 02010 0.23 0.08 100 THU 12Z 05-MAR 31.5 20.8 20.4 16.9 00012 0.30 0.25 100 THU 18Z 05-MAR 20.9 16.9 20.6 12.1 35011 0.24 0.23 100 FRI 00Z 06-MAR 24.1 15.0 14.7 9.5 01009 0.00 0.00 65 FRI 06Z 06-MAR 14.7 5.4 5.4 1.4 04008 0.00 0.00 0 FRI 12Z 06-MAR 5.5 0.9 1.0 -3.5 04008 0.00 0.00 0 ECMWF Deterministic FORECAST FOR: HSV LAT= 34.65 LON= -86.77 ELE= 643 00Z MAR04 2 M 2 M 2 M SFC SFC 6 HR FROZN TOTAL MXT MNT TMP DEW WIND QPF PCP CLOUD (F) (F) (F) (F) (KTS) (IN) (IN) (PCT)WED 00Z 04-MAR 61.3 59.8 18007 80 WED 06Z 04-MAR 63.1 60.9 62.7 62.0 20010 0.08 0.00 98 WED 12Z 04-MAR 62.7 61.5 61.6 61.1 20009 0.09 0.00 100 WED 18Z 04-MAR 68.0 61.6 68.1 62.9 21012 0.04 0.00 96 THU 00Z 05-MAR 70.4 44.1 43.2 42.6 35010 0.36 0.00 100 THU 06Z 05-MAR 43.2 34.4 34.3 32.6 01009 0.07 0.01 100 THU 12Z 05-MAR 34.3 25.9 25.7 22.9 36011 0.32 0.17 100 THU 18Z 05-MAR 27.6 22.0 27.4 18.2 35012 0.24 0.17 100 FRI 00Z 06-MAR 31.2 22.0 21.6 12.6 00010 0.00 0.00 68 FRI 06Z 06-MAR 21.6 14.1 14.0 8.1 00010 0.00 0.00 0 FRI 12Z 06-MAR 14.4 10.9 10.9 4.8 01008 0.00 0.00 1 ECMWF Deterministic FORECAST FOR: BNA LAT= 36.12 LON= -86.68 ELE= 591 00Z MAR04 2 M 2 M 2 M SFC SFC 6 HR FROZN TOTAL MXT MNT TMP DEW WIND QPF PCP CLOUD (F) (F) (F) (F) (KTS) (IN) (IN) (PCT)WED 00Z 04-MAR 59.3 57.5 19007 100 WED 06Z 04-MAR 61.3 58.7 61.3 60.8 21008 0.11 0.00 100 WED 12Z 04-MAR 61.9 58.0 58.3 57.6 21005 0.07 0.00 100 WED 18Z 04-MAR 58.8 42.7 42.7 41.8 36008 0.32 0.00 100 THU 00Z 05-MAR 42.6 30.4 30.0 28.3 35010 0.57 0.16 100 THU 06Z 05-MAR 30.0 23.9 23.8 20.6 36010 0.27 0.25 100 THU 12Z 05-MAR 23.8 18.9 18.8 14.7 01009 0.54 0.50 100 THU 18Z 05-MAR 25.7 18.2 26.1 12.7 35009 0.08 0.08 90 FRI 00Z 06-MAR 28.4 16.9 16.3 9.6 35009 0.00 0.00 1 FRI 06Z 06-MAR 16.3 6.0 5.9 2.8 00008 0.00 0.00 0 FRI 12Z 06-MAR 5.9 -1.1 -1.0 -4.3 02007 0.00 0.00 0 FRI 18Z 06-MAR 27.1 -1.2 27.6 13.3 02001 0.00 0.00 0 SAT 00Z 07-MAR 33.6 27.0 27.7 18.4 24002 0.00 0.00 0 SAT 06Z 07-MAR 27.8 8.7 8.7 4.2 20007 0.00 0.00 0 SAT 12Z 07-MAR 9.8 7.5 8.1 3.9 20008 0.00 0.00 0 ECMWF Deterministic FORECAST FOR: MEM LAT= 35.05 LON= -90.00 ELE= 285 00Z MAR04 2 M 2 M 2 M SFC SFC 6 HR FROZN TOTAL MXT MNT TMP DEW WIND QPF PCP CLOUD (F) (F) (F) (F) (KTS) (IN) (IN) (PCT)WED 00Z 04-MAR 60.2 58.6 20006 100 WED 06Z 04-MAR 60.3 56.7 60.3 59.2 20009 0.00 0.00 92 WED 12Z 04-MAR 61.9 56.9 56.6 56.2 33005 0.16 0.00 100 WED 18Z 04-MAR 56.7 41.1 40.6 39.1 01012 0.22 0.00 100 THU 00Z 05-MAR 40.6 25.4 25.2 22.3 02014 0.61 0.26 100 THU 06Z 05-MAR 25.2 21.7 21.6 17.6 02016 0.58 0.39 100 THU 12Z 05-MAR 21.6 19.2 19.3 14.2 01012 0.35 0.31 100 THU 18Z 05-MAR 28.0 19.3 28.2 12.1 01011 0.02 0.02 0 FRI 00Z 06-MAR 29.7 20.4 19.6 11.2 01008 0.00 0.00 0 FRI 06Z 06-MAR 19.6 8.5 8.3 3.0 05009 0.00 0.00 0 FRI 12Z 06-MAR 8.3 1.3 1.3 -2.8 07008 0.00 0.00 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John1122 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 John has your wind switched around up in Campbell county? Do we have anyone who lives near Union City or Dyersburg on the forum who can keep us posted with OBS? My winds are out of the north at 9 currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0114 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 0134 PM CST WED MAR 04 2015 AREAS AFFECTED...NRN ARKANSAS...SRN MISSOURI...SRN ILLINOIS...WRN KENTUCKY...NWRN TENNESSEE CONCERNING...HEAVY SNOW VALID 041934Z - 042330Z SUMMARY...HEAVY SNOW...AT RATES OF 1 TO 2 INCHES PER HOUR...APPEARS POSSIBLE WITHIN A DEVELOPING BAND...FROM THE BOSTON MOUNTAINS OF NORTHWEST ARKANSAS EAST NORTHEASTWARD ACROSS THE MISSOURI BOOTHEEL AND ADJACENT PORTIONS OF THE LOWER OHIO VALLEY THROUGH 00-01Z. DISCUSSION...SLOW...STEADY SOUTHWARD ADVANCEMENT AND DEEPENING OF THE SURFACE BASED COLD INTRUSION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE THIS AFTERNOON ACROSS THE OZARK PLATEAU AND MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...COINCIDENT WITH THE CONTINUED EASTWARD PROGRESSION OF THE LARGE...POSITIVELY TILTED NORTHERN STREAM UPPER TROUGH. THE LATEST RAPID REFRESH AND NCEP SREF OUTPUT SUGGEST THAT COOLING OF A REMNANT WARM LAYER BETWEEN 850 MB AND 700 MB WILL BE ACCOMPANIED BY THE CONTINUED TRANSITION OF PRECIPITATION TO ALL SNOW ACROSS THE REMAINDER OF SOUTHERN MISSOURI INTO NORTHERN ARKANSAS THROUGH THE 21-23Z TIME FRAME. AT THE SAME TIME...STRENGTHENING LOWER/MID TROPOSPHERIC FRONTOGENETIC FORCING FOR UPWARD VERTICAL MOTION IS EXPECTED TO SUPPORT INTENSIFYING PRECIPITATION RATES. IT APPEARS THAT THIS WILL BE ENHANCED BY FORCING IN THE RIGHT ENTRANCE REGION OF A HIGH LEVEL JET OVERSPREADING THE REGION...INCREASING LIFT WITHIN THE FAVORABLE MIXED PHASE LAYER FOR LARGE DENDRITIC ICE CRYSTAL GROWTH. GIVEN THE AVAILABLE MOISTURE /PW ON THE ORDER OF .50-.75 INCHES/ WHICH CONTINUES TO RETURN ON THE NORTHERN PERIPHERY OF SUBTROPICAL RIDGING...IT APPEARS THAT A HEAVY SNOW BAND...AT RATES OF 1-2 INCHES PER HOUR...MAY EVOLVE THROUGH EARLY EVENING...WHILE TENDING TO DEVELOP EAST NORTHEASTWARD TOWARD THE LOWER OHIO VALLEY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnEastTN Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 MRX dropped the Watch for most of the remaining counties under it and put up a WWA for all of East TN. They upgraded to warnings central and southern plateau counties. Interesting read between the two advisories. WWA issued for calling for up to a .1 of an inch of ZR, and less than 2" of snow sleet. Then neighboring central plateau counties under WSW up to .25 ZR, and less than an inch of snow sleet. Seems they think plateau counties at least central and southern plateau counties will get more ZR, and less snow sleet, and higher potential for more snow/sleet in the valley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1122 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Apparently MRX thinks tomorrow could be a little more snowy for the Valley and points East. MODELS SNOW FALL OUTPUT AND CURRENT FORECASTMAY BE UNDERDONE FOR MID DAY THURSDAY FOR CENTRAL VALLEY AND EAREAS. WEAK LIFR REMAINS INTO THE EARLY AFTERNOON WITH MODESTAVAILABLE MOISTURE. TEMPERATURES WILL FALL THROUGH THURSDAY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234snow Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Amazing temp contrast across the Tri-Cities. 73 in Johnson City and 40's in SWVA. My car read 41 earlier where there is snowpack. 53 at my house. Flooding has been a issue today and the main show isn't even here yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nrgjeff Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 MRX dropped the Watch for most of the remaining counties under it and put up a WWA for all of East TN. They upgraded to warnings central and southern plateau counties. Interesting read between the two advisories. WWA issued for calling for up to a .1 of an inch of ZR, and less than 2" of snow sleet. Then neighboring central plateau counties under WSW up to .25 ZR, and less than an inch of snow sleet. Seems they think plateau counties at least central and southern plateau counties will get more ZR, and less snow sleet, and higher potential for more snow/sleet in the valley. Thanks for the props earlier. MRX may be thinking about the warm layer above 850 mb from 800-700 mb. Plateau at a higher elevation puts less cold air between surface and the warm layer. Valley floor has thicker cold air - if it can get over the Plateau in time. On paper is makes sense, but we will find out tomorrow. Though most of the system(s) depart(s) by 12Z that last piece coming from North Texas and arriving in East Tennessee in the morning is key. If cold air really makes it over the Plateau in time qpf confidence is pretty good. We sent Texas the Volunteers. Will they send East Tenn one last winter show? Oh 18Z NAM says back to reality - cold chasing rain southeast Tenn. It goes with a more southern track out of central Texas. Watch actual events in Texas to see if 18Z is a fluke or a quality update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneR4 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I love it, it's 74 here and under a Winter Storm Warning(primarily for Ice). Also, the Gov declared another State of Emergency for AL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnEastTN Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Thanks for the props earlier. MRX may be thinking about the warm layer above 850 mb from 800-700 mb. Plateau at a higher elevation puts less cold air between surface and the warm layer. Valley floor has thicker cold air - if it can get over the Plateau in time. On paper is makes sense, but we will find out tomorrow. Though most of the system(s) depart(s) by 12Z that last piece coming from North Texas and arriving in East Tennessee in the morning is key. If cold air really makes it over the Plateau in time qpf confidence is pretty good. We sent Texas the Volunteers. Will they send East Tenn one last winter show? Oh 18Z NAM says back to reality - cold chasing rain southeast Tenn. It goes with a more southern track out of central Texas. Watch actual events in Texas to see if 18Z is a fluke or a quality update. That makes perfect sense! It would be nice to have one last little snow event before climatology beats winter out of the picture. I'm certainly happy to have less odds of ZR after the last couple ice storms. Still have trees to cut up on my property from damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234snow Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Who likes green and pink? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestTennWX Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 John has your wind switched around up in Campbell county? Do we have anyone who lives near Union City or Dyersburg on the forum who can keep us posted with OBS? Just made the drive home from work in Western Kentucky- around a tenth of an inch of zr- then a quick changeover to some of the hardest sleet I have ever experienced. Some flash freezing of the rain on the roads, temp at 29 at my place here in UC now. Sleet quickly accumulating, will upload some pics a little later as long as I have power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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