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End of February/ Early March Discussion Thread 2015


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We haven't had a major system have we? Incorrect the -EPO/+PNA were very favorable for delivering constant cold but the +AO in particular didn't allow us to cash in on many major storms. The city east got extremely lucky with the New England blizzard while just to the west we got shut out.

Who cares about big snowstorms. Moderate snowstorms are just fine.

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This winter has ended up being very solid and if we get another 3-6" it will just reinforce that notion.

We're getting close to 30" with some already over, weeks of snow cover, brutally cold temps, and a huge comeback from December, majority of January.

Had the AO correlation worked out we'd probably have just as much snow as last year along with the brutal cold.

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This winter has ended up being very solid and if we get another 3-6" it will just reinforce that notion.

We're getting close to 30" with some already over, weeks of snow cover, brutally cold temps, and a huge comeback from December, majority of January.

Had the AO correlation worked out we'd probably have just as much snow as last year along with the brutal cold.

We would have been crushed if the AO and NAO worked out this winter.

 

5 days out the euro has been terrible

Euro has been terrible really close to an event ( Juno )

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No model has been stellar this winter. Some have nailed a storm and missed badly on others. IMO, it's hard to write off a threat so many days out this winter. Just two days ago, most had written tomorrow off as a more wet than white cutter. Now those same people are arguing about how many inches of snow will fall.

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The miller B threat looks interesting. We're going through some major changes in the teleconnections so we're bound to see something going on.

If it's not the miller B then it's the early March storm the Gfs has, which is currently shown to be a big time flooding cutter and a disaster if it verified.

However cutters have trended weaker over time like this weekend and it's way too far out in fantasy land to speculate.

Eventually the warmth and rains will come though the gfs is still quite cold in the LR once you take out 1-2 days with the cutter.

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Lets start a thread and get the snowfall maps up tonight

 

12-18" on a line from I-78 through Manhattan along Canal, cutting up closer to Delancey, across the Williamsburg Bridge through Brooklyn, lollies of 24.

 

Heaviest snow rate exactly between 3z and 8z.  Boston gets 60 and rain.

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12-18" on a line from I-78 through Manhattan along Canal, cutting up closer to Delancey, across the Williamsburg Bridge through Brooklyn, lollies of 24.

Heaviest snow rate exactly between 3z and 8z. Boston gets 60 and rain.

Yes Boston would get 60" from rain ;)
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I can see the very cold and snowy pattern still locked into around 3/ 16-18 /2015, then maybe a slow pattern shift to warmer.  Pattern strongly supports a MECS or better ? snowstorm next weekend, not a cutter. Anybody agree with these thoughts? I think March is a -10 to -12 month and 20-30 inches of snowfall my best guess.

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So does the 06z GFS. The coastal low needs to strengthen more quickly or it's going to slide out to sea. The GFS has been consistently showing this feature and is starting trend a little stronger with it along with a (slightly) more northerly track.

 

gfsUS_prec_prec_126.gif

 

 

 

 

Still, you can't help but look at this upper air pattern and not get a little excited. There is plenty of room for the trough to come around and swing negative, giving the Mid-Atlantic the snowstorm it deserves.

gfsUS_500_avort_120.gif

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