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2/21-2/23 Weekend Possible Storm


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Even SWF has mixing issues, that should tell you all you need to know

  Sorry for dumb question, but where is SWF?

150221/1900Z  49  18011KT  23.4F          0:1| 0.0|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.000    0:1|  0.0|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.00    0|  0|  0

150221/2000Z  50  17009KT  23.3F  SNOW    8:1| 0.1|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.015    8:1|  0.1|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.01  100|  0|  0

150221/2100Z  51  17009KT  24.3F  SNOW    9:1| 0.1|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.012    8:1|  0.2|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.03  100|  0|  0

150221/2200Z  52  18009KT  25.1F  SNOW    9:1| 0.1|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.013    8:1|  0.3|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.04  100|  0|  0

150221/2300Z  53  18008KT  25.1F  SNOW    9:1| 0.1|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.013    9:1|  0.5|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.05  100|  0|  0

150222/0000Z  54  18006KT  24.9F  SNOW    8:1| 0.1|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.012    8:1|  0.5|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.06  100|  0|  0

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150222/0100Z  55  16005KT  25.1F  SNOW    9:1| 0.2|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.020    9:1|  0.7|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.08  100|  0|  0

150222/0200Z  56  15003KT  25.4F  SNOW    9:1| 0.1|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.015    9:1|  0.9|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.10  100|  0|  0

150222/0300Z  57  VRB02KT  26.0F  SNOW   10:1| 0.3|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.027    9:1|  1.1|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.13  100|  0|  0

150222/0400Z  58  VRB01KT  28.1F  SNOW    6:1| 0.2|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.037    8:1|  1.3|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.16  100|  0|  0

150222/0500Z  59  VRB01KT  29.2F  ZRPL    0:1| 0.0|| 0.10|| 0.02|| 0.074    8:1|  1.3|| 0.10|| 0.02|| 0.24    9| 59| 32

150222/0600Z  60  VRB02KT  30.8F  ZRPL    0:1| 0.0|| 0.04|| 0.04|| 0.061    8:1|  1.3|| 0.15|| 0.06|| 0.30    4| 33| 63

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150222/0700Z  61  VRB02KT  31.9F  ZRSN    0:1| 0.0|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.057    8:1|  1.3|| 0.15|| 0.06|| 0.35   67| 10| 23

150222/0800Z  62  27003KT  30.8F  SNOW    4:1| 0.1|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.026    8:1|  1.4|| 0.15|| 0.06|| 0.38  100|  0|  0

150222/0900Z  63  25003KT  29.7F  SNOW    4:1| 0.0|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.009    7:1|  1.5|| 0.15|| 0.06|| 0.39  100|  0|  0

150222/1000Z  64  24004KT  30.1F          0:1| 0.0|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.000    7:1|  1.5|| 0.15|| 0.06|| 0.39    0|  0|  0

 

That would be Newburgh, NY.

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GFS and NAM fairly similar, 2-4 north and west of the city and 1-2 south and east...NAM slightly more robust.    What we weenies have to hope for is a slightly better front end dump and then only light rain/ drizzle at the end for a net snowpack gain....verbatim, the models are half and half with regard to qpf that falls as snow and qpf that falls as rain.   Both have approx .60 or so region wide total QPF.

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i usually like the clown maps but this one doesn't make sense. You'll have a moderate snow event for a several hours and that map shows spotty accumulations. I personally think it's underdone. I don't doubt we get more an hour or two of some sleet freezing rain or just plain rain but this map should show a stripe of at least 2-5 inches anywhere from philly and north!
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We badly need a storm where all areas get equally socked and there are no mixing or QPF issues. You know, something like PDII or 96' should do it :lol:

96 is the way to go. Cold and a big dump In areas where the most members live.

Even 1888 would have someone pissed as amounts were all over the place due to banding

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i usually like the clown maps but this one doesn't make sense. You'll have a moderate snow event for a several hours and that map shows spotty accumulations. I personally think it's underdone. I don't doubt we get more an hour or two of some sleet freezing rain or just plain rain but this map should show a stripe of at least 2-5 inches anywhere from philly and north!

It does show that strip lol.. Blue is 2-5" dependi on shade

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We badly need a storm where all areas get equally socked and there are no mixing or QPF issues. You know, something like PDII or 96' should do it :lol:

Just a 6-10 inch snow before mixing would be enough....I'm sick of front end "dumps" of 2.5 inches of slush followed by rain followed by ice. With frigid air beforehand...I'd rather have 60 degrees followed by a big snow followed by a big melt like Feb 06....

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It does show that strip lol.. Blue is 2-5" dependi on shade

no I know that but how come its spotty. A setup like this usually brings a wall of snow which means there shouldn't be anyone philly and north up to Maine having at least 2-5 but obviously more north. Parts of upstate ny are in the 1-2 range in some spots. This is why I stopped giving these maps credit. You look at the guidance, pattern, snowpack, time of the year, trends and you come with your own forecast! Lol...Yep u guessed 3-6 is my call for philly up to Boston!
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This is the forecast as of now for this area..

  • Snow likely, mainly after 1pm. Cloudy, with a high near 29. Wind chill values as low as -9. South wind 3 to 8 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches possible.
  • Saturday NightSnow, freezing rain, and sleet likely before 2am, then a chance of snow. Cloudy, with a low around 28. South wind 3 to 5 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New ice accumulation of less than a 0.1 of an inch possible. New snow and sleet accumulation of 1 to 3 inches possible.
  • SundayA chance of snow and freezing rain before 11am, then a chance of rain between 11am and 1pm. Cloudy, with a high near 41. Chance of precipitation is 30%. New precipitation amounts of less than a tenth of an inch possible.

I think rain is going to end up being very minimal or a non factor. by the time this is upon us..

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no I know that but how come its spotty. A setup like this usually brings a wall of snow which means there shouldn't be anyone philly and north up to Maine having at least 2-5 but obviously more north. Parts of upstate ny are in the 1-2 range in some spots. This is why I stopped giving these maps credit. You look at the guidance, pattern, snowpack, time of the year, trends and you come with your own forecast! Yep u guessed 3-6 is my call for philly up to Boston!

Read snowgooses post above it will explain why it's spotty

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I don't think I've ever seen a snow map like that before with more snow in Cumberland County in South Jersey than here in Monmouth.  

 I guess because the precip arrives earlier down there before the warm air arrives but still.  Doesn't happen too often when we both flip to rain like that and they end up with more snow than us.

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I don't think I've ever seen a snow map like that before with more snow in Cumberland County in South Jersey than here in Monmouth.

I guess because the precip arrives earlier down there before the warm air arrives but still. Doesn't happen too often when we both flip to rain like that and they end up with more snow than us.

Much stronger signature down there before the warm push, they drop 1+ qpf but then change over

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As a nonweather expert, I've gotta say...I come here and within two days I'm reading rainstorm, then snowstorm, then solid dump to rain, and now back to mostly rain. And we won't really know until the storm gets going. For the most part storms have underperformed here in north-central NJ this year. Is there any reason to think this won't continue? Seems like people talking about snow here are all in the upper northern tiers of the area. I expect tomorrow I will be reading something different....

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As a nonweather expert, I've gotta say...I come here and within two days I'm reading rainstorm, then snowstorm, then solid dump to rain, and now back to mostly rain. And we won't really know until the storm gets going. For the most part storms have underperformed here in north-central NJ this year. Is there any reason to think this won't continue? Seems like people talking about snow here are all in the upper northern tiers of the area. I expect tomorrow I will be reading something different....

models have been really bad outside of 2-3 days.   But the seasonal trend has been for no big cutters, so guess you could see how yesterday's runs were going to not work out.   I think Snowgoose brings up a good point on this type of storm, which we have seen quite a few over the years....surely southern areas won't get as much, but I think most folks see a good thump on the front end similar to the storm of 1/24/15....

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Exactly why I'm worried about higher snow amounts before the changeover further north, nothing is stopping that explosive precip shield from occurring further north in the warm advection

I agree these setup tend to really thump. Last February was the ultimate example. Not saying that's happening here because it's not just an example.

I think an average of 3" is good for the NYC area. I think there woulnt be as step a gradient this time as everyone warms at a similar time

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