Jump to content
  • Member Statistics

    17,607
    Total Members
    7,904
    Most Online
    NH8550
    Newest Member
    NH8550
    Joined

Windspeed

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 617
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Hopefully the low dew points help achieve that.

 

It was interesting because they had the warm nose but it was going directly northeast into the the side of the apps rather then expanding, was screwing places like greene county, but it was narrow and stopped short of Washington county tn.  It even looked ok back towards Morristown...but I suppose it was an in house model so who knows.  A lot of today's maps were showing that solution as well

Link to comment
Share on other sites

May be of little consequence, but locations in MO and AR (Poplar Bluff, Little Rock) that were progged for SN/IP are starting off with ZR.

Their NWS office statement from a few minutes ago said that their forecast was on track, that their northern ares would switch to heavy snow. We'll see if it occurs. Everyone south of I-64 may get warm nosed.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The Euro looked better to me especially with the warm nose.

I traced out the 32 degree line on the Euro on the 2 frames where QPF is the most (hours 18 & 24). By hour 30 the precip is exiting and the freezing line has pushed east of the mountains. 32 degree line doesn't look to make it to Knoxville but the Euro runs in intervals of 6 hours and not 3 hours so it is hard to tell what happens around hour 27.

c263b7d60adb6eaa33b2df2613c8b57f.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think the problem we are having has to do with the CAD wedge east of the mountains. The low pressure doesn't want to push directly into the CAD. The warm nose will have a hard time penetrating the CAD. So it has to go somewhere. The low pressure and associated warm air aloft wants to take the path of least resistant. That happens to be the Valley since the low pressure is so far north over Alabama (thanks to the 500mb vort). The other path of least resistance would be south of the CAD but upper levels doesn't support a southern slider.

You can see the isobars stretching/pointing northeast up through the Valley on the Euro map I just posted. While the isobars in the NC/SC CAD regions are pointing southwestward. The low is trying to come up west of the Apps but at the last second doesn't.

The Appalachian/Smokey mountains are not helping at all in this situation. They are acting like a brick wall and funneling the warm nose straight at us. If those mountains were not there I fell like the warm air could be distributed more evenly to the east (then CAD would never be an issue for folks out east).

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think I get a solid snowfall on the GFS, Euro, RGEM, and GGEM. With the NAM being the least for me, around 4-5 inches.

I think you are in solid position as always John. You are in the best spot out of anyone. I'm thinking you could stay all snow with maybe some sleet mixed in. I'll say 8-10 for your area.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm from Georgia and haven't seen more than 4" of snow on the ground since 1993. And I've NEVER seen more than 10" ( saw 10" in 1993). Maybe we get lucky and get a foot.

I wouldn't move. I think it's good that you moved north some. 3z RAP is pushing a foot by 18z Monday. Here is the meteogram for Bowling Green (KBWG) including some 0z models(NAM/RAP/GFS).

2f2be093ae977ff11e5fdc4fcbc4216a.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

mcd0067.gifMESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0067
   NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
   0257 AM CST MON FEB 16 2015

   AREAS AFFECTED...NERN OK/SRN MO/SRN IL/SRN INDIANA/WRN AND CENTRAL
   KY/WRN AND MIDDLE TN/AR/NRN MS/NWRN AL

   CONCERNING...WINTER MIXED PRECIPITATION

   VALID 160857Z - 161500Z

   SUMMARY...A WIDESPREAD AREA OF WINTRY PRECIPITATION -- INCLUDING
   HEAVY SNOW ACROSS MO/SRN IL/SRN INDIANA AND KY...MIXED PHASES ACROSS
   NRN AR/FAR SERN MO AND PARTS OF NRN TN...AND MAINLY FREEZING RAIN
   ACROSS CENTRAL AND SRN AR/NRN MS/NWRN AL AND INTO SRN TN -- WILL
   CONTINUE THROUGH THIS MORNING.  HEAVY SNOW ACCUMULATIONS ARE LIKELY
   ACROSS NRN PORTIONS OF THE DISCUSSION AREA...WITH SUBSTANTIAL
   FREEZING RAIN ACCUMULATIONS OVER SRN PORTIONS OF THE AREA.

   DISCUSSION...A STRONG LOW-LEVEL BAROCLINIC ZONE CONTINUES TO TIGHTEN
   ACROSS THE SRN PLAINS/MID MS/TN VALLEY REGION EARLY THIS MORNING.
   THIS BAROCLINIC ZONE LIES AT THE INTERSECT OF SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE
   AND AN ASSOCIATED POLAR/ARCTIC AIRMASS SPILLING SEWD OUT OF CANADA
   INTO THE PLAINS/MIDWEST/NERN STATES...WHILE PRONOUNCED ADVECTION OF
   HIGHER THETA-E LOW-LEVEL AIR CONTINUES ACROSS TX/THE LOWER MS
   VALLEY/GULF COASTAL STATES. 

   THIS BACKGROUND SCENARIO IS UNFOLDING DUE TO A BRIEF TRANSITIONAL
   STAGE OF THE ERN U.S. LONG-WAVE TROUGH...AS A STRONG/SMALLER-SCALE
   TROUGH/LOW MOVES OUT OF THE NERN U.S. INTO THE CANADIAN MARITIMES
   AND A SECOND/REINFORCING TROUGH DIGS SEWD OUT OF CANADA AND ACROSS
   THE NRN INTERMOUNTAIN REGION.  BETWEEN THESE TWO SYSTEMS...A BRIEFLY
   MORE ZONAL/WLY FLOW FIELD ALOFT IS MANIFESTING OVER THE S CENTRAL
   AND SERN CONUS. 

   AS THE WRN TROUGHING DIGS SEWD...SURFACE CYCLOGENESIS OVER THE S
   CENTRAL U.S. ALONG THE AFOREMENTIONED BAROCLINIC ZONE IS YIELDING A
   ZONE OF STRONG WARM ADVECTION -- DRIVING THE ISENTROPIC ASCENT AND
   RESULTING WINTRY PRECIPITATION EVENT THAT IS ONGOING.  WHILE
   MIXED-PHASE PRECIPITATION IS INDICATED ACROSS A SIZABLE PORTION OF
   THE DISCUSSION AREA ATTM -- IN PART DUE TO CONVECTIVE NATURE OF THE
   PRECIPITATION...CURRENT THINKING IS THAT THE BAND OF HEAVIEST
   SNOWFALL -- WITH RATES OF 1-2" PER HOUR -- WILL OCCUR FROM NERN OK
   ENEWD ACROSS NWRN AR AND SRN MO...AND EWD INTO SRN IL/WRN KY.  WITH
   TIME...EWD EXPANSION OF THE HEAVY SNOW BAND IS EXPECTED TO
   CONTINUE...SPREADING INTO SRN INDIANA AND CENTRAL/WRN KY WITH TIME.

   FARTHER S -- A ZONE OF MIXED-PHASE PRECIPITATION WILL PERSIST --
   MAINLY ACROSS NRN AR AND PARTS OF WRN TN.  HOWEVER...A TRANSITION TO
   PRIMARILY SNOW IS EXPECTED TO GRADUALLY OCCUR LATER THIS MORNING
   OVER WRN PORTIONS OF THIS AREA...I.E. NWRN AR...AS THE EVOLVING
   SURFACE LOW -- AND PRECEDING ZONE OF STRONGEST WARM ADVECTION --
   SHIFTS EWD OUT OF TX AND ACROSS THE LOWER MS VALLEY WITH TIME.
   ACROSS SRN PORTIONS OF THE AREA -- INCLUDING PARTS OF CENTRAL AND
   SRN AR/NRN MS/NWRN AL AND SRN TN...SUBSTANTIAL FREEZING RAIN
   ACCUMULATIONS ARE EXPECTED TO CONTINUE.  WHILE ERN PORTIONS OF THE
   AFOREMENTIONED AREA -- I.E. NERN MS/NWRN AL/SRN MIDDLE TN -- REMAIN
   ABOVE FREEZING...DEWPOINTS IN THE SINGLE DIGITS SUGGEST SUBSTANTIAL
   WET-BULB COOLING IS LIKELY -- SUPPORTING THE EXPECTATION THAT
   FREEZING RAIN WILL PREDOMINATE ACROSS THESE AREAS INTO THE
   MID-MORNING HOURS.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

you are more N than us,not sure we see much depends on how fast the colder air gets in.KY/TN line looks to be close to the jack pot

 

edit:good luck though,maybe someone in our area will cash in for a change

I saw something similar to this as a kid, cant recall what year it was, in the 1980's but they were calling for big snow and all we ever got was sleet and freezing rain.

 

I am sitting at 24 right now - I know if we get snow on top of the good layer of sleet, you might as well shut us down until at least wed.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I saw something similar to this as a kid, cant recall what year it was, in the 1980's but they were calling for big snow and all we ever got was sleet and freezing rain.

 

I am sitting at 24 right now - I know if we get snow on top of the good layer of sleet, you might as well shut us down until at least wed.

I know temps are forecast to remain below freezing for the next few days, but maybe if we get some sunshine on Tuesday the roads will improve a bit. The sun angle is getting stronger so even with temps below freezing there may be some melting on roads.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...