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This is what I've been saying all night lol..I've always thought Jersey does well as well as Long Island, I said it many time in many posts, my concerns were for the nyc and points North folks, thinking that band etc was gonna make it up here

Ha , then we are on the same page . I think MC could see 4 , but the city was 1 to 2 . That`s why I said if KNYC gets 2 , guys should kiss the ground .

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Didn't like this from Mt. Holly - and it's very poorly written, too.  WTF does, "BANKING ON THE QPF FROM 06Z-12Z TO DRIVE THE AMOUNTS UP TO AN INCH OR SO OF THE BOTTOM OF OUR RANGES." mean?  Are they saying if you're in a 3-4" zone, that you should expect an inch less than the bottom of the range, i.e., 2"?  

 

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOUNT HOLLY NJ

1154 PM EST MON FEB 16 2015

 

.NEAR TERM /THROUGH TUESDAY/...
BASED ON RADAR AND THE 00Z/17 GFS/NAM/RGEM AND 02Z HRRR...FLUFF
FACTOR WILL HAVE TO GET US OUR AMOUNTS I-95 NWWD. SNOW GROWTH
DOES NOT LOOK VERY GOOD TO ME IN ANY OF OUR AREA OVERNIGHT AND AM
BANKING ON THE QPF FROM 06Z-12Z TO DRIVE THE AMOUNTS UP TO AN INCH
OR SO OF THE BOTTOM OF OUR RANGES. NO CHANGES TO THE FCST ATTM
PENDING REEVALUATION OF REALITY COMPARED TO THE MODEL FORECAST FOR
06Z-09Z.

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Didn't like this from Mt. Holly - and it's very poorly written, too.  WTF does, "BANKING ON THE QPF FROM 06Z-12Z TO DRIVE THE AMOUNTS UP TO AN INCH OR SO OF THE BOTTOM OF OUR RANGES." mean?  Are they saying if you're in a 3-4" zone, that you should expect an inch less than the bottom of the range, i.e., 2"?  

 

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOUNT HOLLY NJ

1154 PM EST MON FEB 16 2015

 

.NEAR TERM /THROUGH TUESDAY/...

BASED ON RADAR AND THE 00Z/17 GFS/NAM/RGEM AND 02Z HRRR...FLUFF

FACTOR WILL HAVE TO GET US OUR AMOUNTS I-95 NWWD. SNOW GROWTH

DOES NOT LOOK VERY GOOD TO ME IN ANY OF OUR AREA OVERNIGHT AND AM

BANKING ON THE QPF FROM 06Z-12Z TO DRIVE THE AMOUNTS UP TO AN INCH

OR SO OF THE BOTTOM OF OUR RANGES. NO CHANGES TO THE FCST ATTM

PENDING REEVALUATION OF REALITY COMPARED TO THE MODEL FORECAST FOR

06Z-09Z.

 

 

Looks like a drunk person wrote that, LOL. Radar is encouraging, so I think we're on track for 2 to 4 inches.

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Looks like a drunk person wrote that, LOL. Radar is encouraging, so I think we're on track for 2 to 4 inches.

Whoever wrote the Mt Holly afd looks as if they were texting a colleague. It's mostly shorthand and not exactly coherent; not to mention the grammar is just horrific. Very interesting to say the least.
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Whoever wrote the Mt Holly afd looks as if they were texting a colleague. It's mostly shorthand and not exactly coherent; not to mention the grammar is just horrific. Very interesting to say the least.

And it would be odd to lower snowfall amounts now, with how good radar looks. The moderate snow has really made a nice push to the north.

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For Long Island and CT Thursday AM

 

UPTON

AM LONG TERM /WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY/...
AN UPPER TROUGH AND ARCTIC FRONT WILL APPROACH WED EVENING.
THE FRONT WILL MOVE ACROSS WED NIGHT ACCOMPANIED BY SCT SNOW
SHOWERS. THEN A STRONG VORT MAX ROUNDING THE BASE OF THE UPPER
TROUGH STILL TO THE WEST SHOULD INDUCE CYCLOGENESIS S OF CAPE GOD
LATE WED NIGHT INTO THU MORNING. MODELS HINT AT EITHER AN INVERTED
TROUGH EXTENDING NW OF THE LOW OR INTERACTION BETWEEN THE LOW AND
ARCTIC FRONT THAT COULD BRING A CHANCE FOR A STEADY ACCUMULATING
LIGHT SNOW THU MORNING...MAINLY ACROSS CENTRAL/ERN SECTIONS OF SRN
CT AND LONG ISLAND.
THE UPPER TROUGH MAY ALSO SPARK ISOLD SNOW
SHOWERS FARTHER WEST AS IT MOVES ACROSS THU INTO THU EVENING.

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Trying to learn.. Is there a general consensus on why this is over-performing?

Surface low intensified slightly faster and ~50 miles further northwest than expected.

Mid level frontogeneis is occurring right over LI and coastal NJ, instead of further southeast over the Atlantic, which will def cause forecasts to bust to the upside.

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/mesoanalysis/new/viewsector.php?sector=19

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Surface low intensified slightly faster and ~50 miles further northwest than expected.

Mid level frontogeneis occurring right over LI and coastal NJ, which will def cause forecasts to bust to the upside.

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/mesoanalysis/new/viewsector.php?sector=19[/quote

Great to get analysis from a met. Appreciate it

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Surface low intensified slightly faster and ~50 miles further northwest than expected.

Mid level frontogeneis is occurring right over LI and coastal NJ, instead of further southeast over the Atlantic, which will def cause forecasts to bust to the upside.

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/mesoanalysis/new/viewsector.php?sector=19

 

Great insight.  Color me pleasantly surprised, nice way to return from a holiday weekend!

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Surface low intensified slightly faster and ~50 miles further northwest than expected.

Mid level frontogeneis is occurring right over LI and coastal NJ, instead of further southeast over the Atlantic, which will def cause forecasts to bust to the upside.

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/mesoanalysis/new/viewsector.php?sector=19

 

This is a good example of why we shouldn't take model output verbatim.  Things change short term good and bad.

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