yhbrooklyn Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Hey, Upton raised it. NYC now at 3.6" woohoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlirish Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 It's not a joke it's a travesty. It's screwing up the climatological record big time. I hope someone important sees this. Totally agree. Just make LGA official of record until someone can get it right!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Hey, Upton raised it. NYC now at 3.6" woohoo. Maybe the zookeeper lives in Carle Place? They only reported 1.9" today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 6 inches here in brooklyn not bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCSNOWMAN2020 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 6 inches here in brooklyn not badtotally agree especially for a storm that was looking like a rain event ..for city/,coast .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sock Puppet Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 I don't know how you got to that total. 6 inches here in brooklyn not bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 1.15" LE with this storm and already 6.30" precip for the year..hi temp today 34 and low 13 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEXtreme Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 totally agree especially for a storm that was looking like a rain event ..for city/,coast .. It only looked like rain if you were model hugging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Finished with 8 inches. Hope the storm this Friday works out for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCG RS Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 It only looked like rain if you were model hugging.Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlirish Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 It only looked like rain if you were model hugging. Bingo. I was fulling expecting 4-6" with ice and no to little rainSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 6 inches here in brooklyn not bad what part of brooklyn?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlirish Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 People have to remember it's not snow depth it's snow accumulation. Rarely are they one and the same unless it's measured right after an event. Compacting, temps, mixing, etc all cause issues in depth. The proper way to measure is to do it during the storm and use a board or average spots together that are protected. CPK issues likely had to do with the wet snow and then mixing (frz rain). Then there was a significant break and more snow. The new snow was probably just measured as total depth. It should have been measured like a new storm and added to the precious report, which likely didn't happen. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Temps busting already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 what part of brooklyn?... Multiple reports of 6 inches all over brooklyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 It's like a skating rink outside. Everything is iced over. I tried shovel but it was no use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 It's like a skating rink outside. Everything is iced over. I tried shovel but it was no use. You needed to do it earlier last time we had a situation like this was feb 94 so this stretch out here is now with the greats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Humidity Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 4.3" total front end and back end. Was forecasted for an inch. Temp never rose above 37 and despite roughly .8 of rain, snowpack increase overall. Not what I was expecting once the warming trend torched. Forecast high busted by 8 degrees. Good storm fellas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 It only looked like rain if you were model hugging. It rained plenty near the coast and it got above freezing there and in the city. The coastal low developed sooner than most models expected and turned the winds back around to the north, and helped develop the heavy snow band that tacked on 2-4 more inches. It wasn't "model hugging" at all to think there would be more rain. That's how many of these SWFE type events end up for our area, and the NAO/AO/PNA still aren't in a favorable place for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 It's like a skating rink outside. Everything is iced over. I tried shovel but it was no use. You pretty much have to figure out a way to get ice melt. Unless you have a metal edged shovel there's no way you're getting through this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 It rained plenty near the coast and it got above freezing there and in the city. The coastal low developed sooner than most models expected and turned the winds back around to the north, and helped develop the heavy snow band that tacked on 2-4 more inches. It wasn't "model hugging" at all to think there would be more rain. That's how many of these SWFE type events end up for our area, and the NAO/AO/PNA still aren't in a favorable place for us. JM . It was absolutely model hugging . BY OTHERS I argued on here for 3 days that the set up was ripe for the cold to hold . You had a NEG PNA which argued for progression , you had a NEGA NAO, Confluence through the lakes a POS tilted trough and you saw the isobars aimed east off the Delmarva which argued to redevelopment there . ALL pointed to the cold holding . I said NYC would get 8 from 3 days ago . The city and immediate burbs got 5 to 7 with up to 9 on the N shore of Long Island . This was ALL MODEL HUGGING . The warm card was NOT supported aloft at all . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 You pretty much have to figure out a way to get ice melt. Unless you have a metal edged shovel there's no way you're getting through this. Flamethrower would help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 JM . It was absolutely model hugging . I argued on here for 3 days that the set up was ripe for the cold to hold . You had a NEG PNA which argued for progression , you had a NEGA NAO, Confluence through the lakes a POS tilted trough , you saw the isobars aimed east off the Delmarva which argued to redevelopment there . ALL pointed to the cold holding . I said NYC would get 8 from 3 days ago . The city and immediate burbs got 5 to 7 with up to 9 on the N shore of Long Island . This was ALL MODEL HUGGING . The warm card was NOT supported aloft at all . But JM wasn't model hugging. He gave meteorological reasons as to why he believed it would be warmer for NYC. It's not as if he was just basing his opinion on warm model runs. He ended up being wrong, and you ended up being right. Excellent job by you, but it's not fair to say JM was model hugging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 But JM wasn't model hugging. He gave meteorological reasons as to why he believed it would be warmer for NYC. It's not as if he was just basing his opinion on warm model runs. He ended up being wrong, and you ended up being right. Excellent job by you, but it's not fair to say JM was model hugging.No. Didn't say he did. I said others did. If it came across that way I apologizeThe calls for rain in the city and long island were based on the models and understandable. I just took a different approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBG Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 It only looked like rain if you were model hugging.Storm overperformed. Look, at KHPN it was near or above freezing much of Sunday. The secondary development cut the warm air advection just after the nick of time but we did go back to snow. We would up with about 10". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCG RS Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 It rained plenty near the coast and it got above freezing there and in the city. The coastal low developed sooner than most models expected and turned the winds back around to the north, and helped develop the heavy snow band that tacked on 2-4 more inches. It wasn't "model hugging" at all to think there would be more rain. That's how many of these SWFE type events end up for our area, and the NAO/AO/PNA still aren't in a favorable place for us.I don't believe you were model hugging brother. However, there were plenty in here who were. All they kept saying was the trend and that the models were showing it so it therefore must be true, etc. The teleconnections implied otherwise, though. Yes the PV elongated, but it just did not make sense the storm was going to just ride up as the models were indicating. Furthermore, the coastal redeveloping more quickly than expected was a result of the PV forcing the storm to stop it's progression. The storm could no longer push north and all the energy it had was forced to transfer more quickly to the redeveloping storm. Climatology was on our side. Teleconnections were on our side. And for those of us who have seen a similar set up, it was well understood that such artic low level cold air would be exceedingly hard to scour out and that an significant ice event in addition to a good bit of snow was in store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 No. Didn't say he did. I said others did. If it came across that way I apologize The calls for rain in the city and long island were based on the models and understandable. I just took a different approach. You didn't say that specifically and responded to JM's post, so it was easy to assume that you were including him in that model hugging. But I guess my post should have been targeted at NEXtreme since he said it only looked like rain to people that were model hugging. I'm sure there was some model hugging going on, but there definitely were people that were not model hugging that thought a warmer solution would happen. But of course, we're talking about NEXtreme here. In following this board the last few years, I don't think I've seen one snow threat that he wasn't bullish on. He always thinks the best case scenario will happen for snow lovers and tends to criticize people that think otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntenseBlizzard2014 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 After that intense banding of snow yesterday afternoon, Mount Vernon, NY ended up with 9.5" of snowfall in total for the storm. Now there's 19.5" of snowcover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 No. Didn't say he did. I said others did. If it came across that way I apologize The calls for rain in the city and long island were based on the models and understandable. I just took a different approach. I see you edited the post to make it more clear. It's no problem. And again I should have directed it at NEXtreme since he said that it looked like rain to only people that were model hugging. The key thing that made the difference was the backend snow, obviously. Take away those 2 to 4 inches on the backend, and 2 to 4 forecasts for the event would have verified. The mixing line came in on schedule after the front end thump. Maybe even slightly ahead of schedule. I went over to sleet a little after 3am, and NYC was shortly after that. I only got 3.5 here because that backend snow missed me to the east. So JM was on the money as far as the mixing coming in quickly as it warmed upstairs, but people that called for more ended up being right because of the impressive back end. We know back end snows rarely work out for NYC, but thankfully for snow lovers it did this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 I see you edited the post to make it more clear. It's no problem. And again I should have directed it at NEXtreme since he said that it looked like rain to only people that were model hugging. The key thing that made the difference was the backend snow, obviously. Take away those 2 to 4 inches on the backend, and 2 to 4 forecasts for the event would have verified. The mixing line came in on schedule after the front end thump. Maybe even slightly ahead of schedule. I went over to sleet a little after 3am, and NYC was shortly after that. I only got 3.5 here because that backend snow missed me to the east. So JM was on the money as far as the mixing coming in quickly as it warmed upstairs, but people that called for more ended up being right because of the impressive back end. We know back end snows rarely work out for NYC, but thankfully for snow lovers it did this time. Yes the front end was still 4 to 5 up on the N shore . 3.5 at JFK and 5 LGA . Just that those BL got stuck and them the show commenced . Back end fail here about 90 % of the time . So I look them as a typical non event . Hey this turned into a good storm and for the guys up on the N shore they threw 7 to 9 on top of the 15 plus that was on the ground up there . Nice pack and it`s not going anywhere . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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