UlsterCountySnowZ Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I'm not sure how creating the threads affects ones snow goggles but I agree it's ridiculous how many different threads get created. Creating a thread that far in advanced is bound to cause people to grasp on to 1 or 2 model runs in that time frame, that show "big storm" instead of letting them play their flip flop game as always, then zero in on what the models really say in the 72-96hr time frame... Doing PBP of 18z model runs 7-10 days out is just begging for madness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Good day weather fans, High today was 16 low was 10 below. noticed many HVAC & plumbers out today. current temp is 8F Really impressve cold for the month. Temps look to continue to drop below zero this week. Friday is predicted to crack negative 7 on the point and click. To polish off the cold an inch or 2 of snow is possible to boot late tonight into tomorrow. Best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Here we go with the final call from Wxrisk take it to the bank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Here we go with the final call from Wxriskl take it to the bank 4-6" LMFAO posting on this site for storm threads has been deplorable, by both newbies and veterans alike... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Here we go with the final call from Wxrisk take it to the bank A weenie map if I've ever seen one, not a shred of this for the nyc area has a single bound of model guidance, pure wish casting at its finest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 4-6" LMFAO posting on this site for storm threads has been deplorable, by both newbies and veterans alike... I am hoping that one of his maps is accurate for my area at some point this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 DT is always good for a laugh.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 DT is always good for a laugh.. All that time and effort to put the maps together you think the focus would be on accuracy lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 I am hoping that one of his maps is accurate for my area at some point this season Has anyone saved all of his last call maps this season? lol.. Im pretty sure we would all be approaching 100" by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIN Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Dt's got me right at the 3 inch line...i'd love it but i doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Dt's got me right at the 3 inch line...i'd love it but i doubt it. If he thinks that 3" is making it all the way up to me and further north he is smoking crack, I guess this is how you get a cult of weenie followers, call for big snow and pretend you didn't the next day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chietanen Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Creating a thread that far in advanced is bound to cause people to grasp on to 1 or 2 model runs in that time frame, that show "big storm" instead of letting them play their flip flop game as always, then zero in on what the models really say in the 72-96hr time frame... Doing PBP of 18z model runs 7-10 days out is just begging for madness Generally, discussion of storm threats occurs in the monthly thread, then when the threat is legit (lets say consistency inside of 3 to maybe 4 days at best), a storm thread is created. This hasn't really been happening lately (as you said, some of them, like for this "storm" have existed for over a week), but it may be due to the fact that there hasn't been as much moderator coverage in this region until recently. Maybe things will change now. If you read the NE forum, they created a thread for the same event a few days ago, but it was locked by one of the moderators until it was in closer. In any event, whether the threads are created a day or a week in advance, there is still going to be the same drama, arguing about who gets the most snow, who gets shafted, how much Boston is getting, someone posting it will never snow again in the history of the planet, someone wishing for winter to end already, and the typical bs between a few posters that continually like to throw each other under the bus. Honestly, I've found that if you don't like what someone has to say, just let it go. By engaging them, it often just makes things worse. By and large, many here on this forum think they are amateur weather people and know more than the next guy. So when you say something they don't agree with, the natural inclination is to argue about it, not engage in meaningful debate over it. That's one reason why I love this thread so much, we have a nice mix of incredibly knowledgeable posters along with some enthusiast types that are willing to take off their snow goggles once in a while, learn from others, and embrace the weather for what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Generally, discussion of storm threats occurs in the monthly thread, then when the threat is legit (lets say consistency inside of 3 to maybe 4 days at best), a storm thread is created. This hasn't really been happening lately (as you said, some of them, like for this "storm" have existed for over a week), but it may be due to the fact that there hasn't been as much moderator coverage in this region until recently. Maybe things will change now. If you read the NE forum, they created a thread for the same event a few days ago, but it was locked by one of the moderators until it was in closer. In any event, whether the threads are created a day or a week in advance, there is still going to be the same drama, arguing about who gets the most snow, who gets shafted, how much Boston is getting, someone posting it will never snow again in the history of the planet, someone wishing for winter to end already, and the typical bs between a few posters that continually like to throw each other under the bus. Honestly, I've found that if you don't like what someone has to say, just let it go. By engaging them, it often just makes things worse. By and large, many here on this forum think they are amateur weather people and know more than the next guy. So when you say something they don't agree with, the natural inclination is to argue about it, not engage in meaningful debate over it. That's one reason why I love this thread so much, we have a nice mix of incredibly knowledgeable posters along with some enthusiast types that are willing to take off their snow goggles once in a while and embrace the weather for what it is. I don't even mind the thread being started early as oppose to the fact that PBP are done for and expected 5+ days out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Threads are much more enjoyable if people can have conversation and that doesn't mean everyone agrees. It's ok to agree to disagree but there are some thin skinned overly defensive folks in those threads. And why the hell do they feel like they HAVE to be right all the time? To steal some U2 lyrics if I may, "I knew much more then than I do now" which to me means, the more I learn the more I realize there's so much more to learn and understand. Unfortunately though there's a ton of 'experts' there who don't need to learn anything else... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Threads are much more enjoyable if people can have conversation and that doesn't mean everyone agrees. It's ok to agree to disagree but there are some thin skinned overly defensive folks in those threads. And why the hell do they feel like they HAVE to be right all the time? To steal some U2 lyrics if I may, "I knew much more then than I do now" which to me means, the more I learn the more I realize there's so much more to learn and understand. Unfortunately though there's a ton of 'experts' there who don't need to learn anything else... Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chietanen Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I don't even mind the thread being started early as oppose to the fact that PBP are done for and expected 5+ days out. I don't believe that PBP's should be done for any model except the Euro, but that's just my opinion. I'm not sure how it adds to the overall discussion, other than creating tension about trivial things like maximum QPF placement 3 days out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chietanen Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Threads are much more enjoyable if people can have conversation and that doesn't mean everyone agrees. It's ok to agree to disagree but there are some thin skinned overly defensive folks in those threads. And why the hell do they feel like they HAVE to be right all the time? To steal some U2 lyrics if I may, "I knew much more then than I do now" which to me means, the more I learn the more I realize there's so much more to learn and understand. Unfortunately though there's a ton of 'experts' there who don't need to learn anything else... I'm not sure if this "I'm always right" mentality always existed and it wasn't blatantly obvious before social media due to the inability to interact with thousands of people at any one time, or if it's a by-product of such and always having the defense of a computer screen. I've significantly cut down on the amount of time I spend on Facebook for that reason. Everyone thinks they are an expert at everything. It's fun when you're in the medical profession and people think they know more than you do. I'm very open-minded and I always give my patients a say in their management, but sometimes they go a bit too far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Threads are much more enjoyable if people can have conversation and that doesn't mean everyone agrees. It's ok to agree to disagree but there are some thin skinned overly defensive folks in those threads. And why the hell do they feel like they HAVE to be right all the time? To steal some U2 lyrics if I may, "I knew much more then than I do now" which to me means, the more I learn the more I realize there's so much more to learn and understand. Unfortunately though there's a ton of 'experts' there who don't need to learn anything else... Yeah i try not to delete to much "banter" in the storm threads during down time, or when the feelings are good, lol. I dont want this to turn into s2k, so im trying to be careful not to overmoderate, even if i should lean that way for now. That being said, im gonna be coming down hard on any whining and any personal attacks...even the rampant weenieism isnt a big deal if people would just discuss it rationally. If science cant sway a position, then its time for deletions lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chietanen Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Has anyone saved all of his last call maps this season? lol.. Im pretty sure we would all be approaching 100" by now. Who do you think has given us more fake snow in the past year? DT or the SREF's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Yeah i try not to delete to much "banter" in the storm threads during down time, or when the feelings are good, lol. I dont want this to turn into s2k, so im trying to be careful not to overmoderate, even if i should lean that way for now. That being said, im gonna be coming down hard on any whining and any personal attacks...even the rampant weenieism isnt a big deal if people would just discuss it rationally. If science cant sway a position, then its time for deletions lol.I hope you have a waterproof device so you can mod while playing with bubbles in the hot tub... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 And to think there is a thread in the Philly forum about merging back to the NYC forum loll... Don't do it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I'm not sure if this "I'm always right" mentality always existed and it wasn't blatantly obvious before social media due to the inability to interact with thousands of people at any one time, or if it's a by-product of such and always having the defense of a computer screen. I've significantly cut down on the amount of time I spend on Facebook for that reason. Everyone thinks they are an expert at everything. It's fun when you're in the medical profession and people think they know more than you do. I'm very open-minded and I always give my patients a say in their management, but sometimes they go a bit too far. I think it has everything to do with communicating to a screen, there's a lot of Keyboard Kowboys out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I don't believe that PBP's should be done for any model except the Euro, but that's just my opinion. I'm not sure how it adds to the overall discussion, other than creating tension about trivial things like maximum QPF placement 3 days out. +10. It's just a way for people to boost their post counts. Nobody benefits from rapid-fire snippets of out-of-context model interpretations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 Who do you think has given us more fake snow in the past year? DT or the SREF's? Im starting to think maybe DT is ARN3 of the SREFs lol.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I hope you have a waterproof device so you can mod while playing with bubbles in the hot tub... Youre just jealous. Im not sure what of, but im sure you are. Im pretty awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 +10. It's just a way for people to boost their post counts. Nobody benefits from rapid-fire snippets of out-of-context model interpretations.And that's a feeding circle because I'm willing to bet that the folks who purposely try to boost their post count also assume that someone who has a high post count must really know what they are talking about...not necessarily true at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I think it has everything to do with communicating to a screen, there's a lot of Keyboard Kowboys out there. Yup, and the internet is a veritable breeding ground for confirmation biases. Online, one can read countless webpages and documents, speak with thousands of people, and perpetuate an entire belief system, all without ever encountering a differing viewpoint... or even an intellectually stimulating one, for that matter. Then when you do have to reemerge into the real world, you have no reason to entertain a new idea or defer to an expert on anything. As more and more of these renegades band together, you have to fight to convince the open-minded that vaccines don't cause autism, a planetary syzygy can't negate the effects of gravity, and you won't get 6" of snow with no model support for any precipitation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Youre just jealous. Im not sure what of, but im sure you are. Im pretty awesome. All true, green is a favorite color of mine. You are my hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chietanen Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Im starting to think maybe DT is ARN3 of the SREFs lol.. Ha! You might be on to something there! Yup, and the internet is a veritable breeding ground for confirmation biases. Online, one can read countless webpages and documents, speak with thousands of people, and perpetuate an entire belief system, all without ever encountering a differing viewpoint... or even an intellectually stimulating one, for that matter. Then when you do have to reemerge into the real world, you have no reason to entertain a new idea or defer to an expert on anything. As more and more of these renegades band together, you have to fight to convince the open-minded that vaccines don't cause autism, a planetary syzygy can't negate the effects of gravity, and you won't get 6" of snow with no model support for any precipitation Does this mean I'm not getting the 5" of snow that the SREF's are promising me? Seriously though, you hit the nail on the head. Very well said. As far as the weather goes, about a year ago today we were tracking our last meaningful snowfall of the season (2/18 I believe). Let's hope that late February and March produce this year for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Gorilla Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Yup, and the internet is a veritable breeding ground for confirmation biases. Online, one can read countless webpages and documents, speak with thousands of people, and perpetuate an entire belief system, all without ever encountering a differing viewpoint... or even an intellectually stimulating one, for that matter. Then when you do have to reemerge into the real world, you have no reason to entertain a new idea or defer to an expert on anything. As more and more of these renegades band together, you have to fight to convince the open-minded that vaccines don't cause autism, a planetary syzygy can't negate the effects of gravity, and you won't get 6" of snow with no model support for any precipitation "There's so many different worlds So many different suns And we have just one world But we live in different ones" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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