Bozart Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Why does everyone who wants to refer to weather that is upstream of us always say "downstream?" It's everywhere now, like an epidemic virus. Who started that nonsense? It's to the point I almost wish people would call everything, in either direction, "upstream" for a year or so, just to even things out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Why does everyone who wants to refer to weather that is upstream of us always say "downstream?" It's everywhere now, like an epidemic virus. Who started that nonsense? It's to the point I almost wish people would call everything, in either direction, "upstream" for a year or so, just to even things out. Leave me alone!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 lol yea, no one cared. He tried to save my soul last year and threatened to get me fired from my job. Dude has legit power obviously. That was like the 4th time that quote from GSP has been posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilj4425 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I feel like I am reading the same crap over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherfide Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I need a US-80 storm for this to work south of Atlanta. Can we work on that for next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin NCwx Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 That was like the 4th time that quote from GSP has been posted.just wait till the rah AFD comes out. It usually gets posted at least there times in the span of 5 minutes. I wish there was a separate thread for those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMRoss Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 just wait till the rah AFD comes out. It usually gets posted at least there times in the span of 5 minutes. I wish there was a separate thread for those.Or at least just quote the important parts.. It's annoying when an entire Afd clogs the page multiple times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Sisk Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I feel like I am reading the same crap over and over again. Fab Feb Banter coming to a close with a Flurry!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NGA WINTER Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Two different news mets have rain in atl Wednesday, one has suppression. Neither have snow.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skbl17 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Great read from James Spann today, entitled, "Dear trolls, haters, and know-it-alls". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilj4425 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Two different news mets have rain in atl Wednesday, one has suppression. Neither have snow.... I knew it. It's over. Time to pack it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NGA WINTER Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I knew it. It's over. Time to pack it up. You'd think they'd wanna give the city a little heads up. This storm looks snowy for atl. Why not say anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilj4425 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 You'd think they'd wanna give the city a little heads up. This storm looks snowy for atl. Why not say anything? Birds are chirping, ducks are quacking, Brick Tamland is having a meltdown, Lookout is banning people, cats and dogs living together. It's chaos. Mass hysteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CherokeeGA Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 You'd think they'd wanna give the city a little heads up. This storm looks snowy for atl. Why not say anything? The media mets will not say much about this until/unless FFC says something concrete about it. So perhaps after this afternoon or tomorrow morning's updated forecast discussions, if FFC picks it up and puts a watch on it, they'll say something. Otherwise, nope. Media mets around here are crazy sensitive about busts, it has always seemed to me. So much so that they consistently underestimate events at least in public discussion (what they privately think, we of course do not know), until it's time for NowCasting when of course they are balls to the wall hype. This conservative position is bolstered by the fact that most potential events do bust here, compared to what models show in the days before. So on the theory that most modeled events never come to pass, they pretty much toe that line because most of the time, they'll end up on the right side of history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itunis Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I'm excited to see a couple decent shots at snow this week for the Atlanta area. I know FFC has been (understandably) a bit trigger happy with advisories/warnings since last winter, but it looks like at the very least the metro area should see more than a trace of snow from these events. Up here we have maybe 15 posters in the winter threads and we've been 1-2"ing our way to the seasonal average, I've missed the excitement of tracking a storm with y'all for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioguy3107 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 The media mets will not say much about this until/unless FFC says something concrete about it. So perhaps after this afternoon or tomorrow morning's updated forecast discussions, if FFC picks it up and puts a watch on it, they'll say something. Otherwise, nope. Media mets around here are crazy sensitive about busts, it has always seemed to me. So much so that they consistently underestimate events at least in public discussion (what they privately think, we of course do not know), until it's time for NowCasting when of course they are balls to the wall hype. This conservative position is bolstered by the fact that most potential events do bust here, compared to what models show in the days before. So on the theory that most modeled events never come to pass, they pretty much toe that line because most of the time, they'll end up on the right side of history. I've never been totally understanding about the reluctance to issue winter weather watches around here though. A watch is a watch, it doesn't mean that winter weather is or will happen. Now I do realize that the public can go bonkers and head to the store buying bread and milk, but no one has ever rushed to the store for bread, milk, and generators when a Tornado Watch is issued. Heck, I bet I've been under at least 200 Tornado watches in my lifetime and the only close call I've had was back in April 1998. I know severe weather impact and winter weather impact are totally different, but a watch is still the same concept. If the models or conditions change, then just drop the watch, it happens. It's not the NWS fault if Mr. and Mrs. Jones have 5 loaves of bread in their pantry! - Buck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CherokeeGA Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I've never been totally understanding about the reluctance to issue winter weather watches around here though. A watch is a watch, it doesn't mean that winter weather is or will happen. Now I do realize that the public can go bonkers and head to the store buying bread and milk, but no one has ever rushed to the store for bread, milk, and generators when a Tornado Watch is issued. Heck, I bet I've been under at least 200 Tornado watches in my lifetime and the only close call I've had was back in April 1998. I know severe weather impact and winter weather impact are totally different, but a watch is still the same concept. If the models or conditions change, then just drop the watch, it happens. It's not the NWS fault if Mr. and Mrs. Jones have 5 loaves of bread in their pantry! - Buck I was referring to the (tv/radio) media mets, who aren't really talking about Wednesday yet, and won't until/unless FFC gets into the game. With references to watches and more, of course that is all in FFC's court as media mets have nothing to do with issuance. And in all fairness to FFC, I think they are being much more impactful this winter in their discussions and issuance of watches and advisories than they have in the past. As a citizen I'm very pleased by their issuances this last couple of weeks. To your point, I think one of the reasons that in the past, there was a panicked "bread run" at any winter watch/warn was because they were fairly rare and generally often only issued at the last minute with only hours left to go when the event was virtually guaranteed to happen - almost a nowcasting situation. The thing last winter was almost a nowcast, that's why people were at work and on school buses. They warned too late after people were already asleep for the night. FFC is doing hugely better this year, ensuring that if a watch goes up, it goes up such that there are some daylight hours between the watch/adv/warn and the timing of the event. That gives people time to make decisions and communicate widely about it. As for general public "bread run" panic vs. other kinds of watches, like tornado - with winter watches being issued when there is an appropriate level of RISK (not once it's a virtual guarantee that the event will happen), which is similar to what happens with warm weather storm systems, people will get used to hearing about potential winter threats and taking the appropriate level of precautions (which might not be entirely filling the pantry in a panic spree). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookout Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 alright guys lets drop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NGA WINTER Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Lookout why are we so warm in Nega? Looks like we may miss out tonight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalicwx366 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I don't see what anyone is complaining about. Some folks are never satisfied. I'm the only one who should be complaining,but I don't ever expect snow here so no use in that. Also I'm getting a lot of rain this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CherokeeGA Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I don't see what anyone is complaining about. Some folks are never satisfied. I'm the only one who should be complaining,but I don't ever expect snow here so no use in that. Also I'm getting a lot of rain this week. I'm with you. I'm tickled that we might see a little bit of snow this winter after all. And not just once this week but maybe two or three times. A little worried about our trees, some of them are injured from the freezing rain. As much as I want to see that 6" of snow I hope it doesn't bring any more limbs down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookout Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Lookout why are we so warm in Nega? Looks like we may miss out tonight... right now the mountains are blocking the low level cold. Flow turns northeasterly this evening which brings in the cold air..hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparklecity Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 WSPA says mostly rain for the upstate and just updated around 1:30. I wonder what model they are basing that off of. I don't think any models are showing all rain for the upstate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfan98 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Does anyone else get tired of reading posts where someone seems 100% certain that a potential storm will be north/south/east/west, colder/warmer, wetter/drier, etc...? Obviously none of us know exactly what is going to happen. Wishcasting or poo-poo-ing models, storms, mets, or other posters is not useful and makes folks look silly. I know I read the forums too much and the cumulative effect of the same attitudes by the same posters just gets old by the end of the season. Ok, rant over. Now I'll go back to reading and watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilj4425 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 WSPA says mostly rain for the upstate and just updated around 1:30. I wonder what model they are basing that off of. I don't think any models are showing all rain for the upstate. My forecast from WSPA says 36 and snow for Wednesday. 70% chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparklecity Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 My forecast from WSPA says 36 and snow for Wednesday. 70% chance. Really? This is what they just posted at 1:30. I didn't look at their grids so maybe it's different. Wednesday & Thursday An area of low pressure looks to track to our south Wednesday afternoon through Thursday morning. We'll be on the northern end of the precipitation shield, so there's some question as to how much we'll receive. Temperatures Wednesday night could also become an issue; right now this looks mostly like rain for the Upstate with snow in the mountains...but this could change if we see changes in the expected temperature profiles. Overall confidence on wintry precipitation in the Upstate is low as of now but continues to be a definite possibility we will need to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilj4425 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Yeah, I just checked it with the WSPA weather app. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Sisk Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I didn't know anyone even watched or paid attention to WSPA. Apologies to my Spartanburg friends....but I just find their news/weather/sports to be very cheesy. And upgrade from WLOS however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormyClearweather Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Yeah, I just checked it with the WSPA weather app. I honestly am amazed that people even use these apps, other than perhaps to check a radar or something. I overheard a girl here talking about how all three of her weather apps gave a different forecast for tonight. One said rain, another snow, and another nothing at all. So what happens? Meteorology as a whole gets a black eye because of The Weather Channel's dumb app with its computer generated forecasts. Not sure why they don't just pull the NWS forecast and regurgitate that. It's more accurate and doesn't negatively affect anyone. Wow, I got a lot more angry typing that than I expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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