snowfan Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 My average is 18-20...pretty much in line with BWI. I'd think that you'd average more than 2-4" more than me. It was a pretty noticeable difference last year. I had 46.5" and I believe you had just over 60". BWI was about 39.5" or so. Sorry? (Not sorry...) Yeah, LWX climo map has Columbia as 22", which I think is reasonable. I don't fully trust that map, but I think it's reasonable in HoCo at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Current map Older map? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Vienna's 81-10 average is 21.1" Thanks. Makes sense. You seem to have been in a "screw zone" for a lot of storms the last couple winters, but then again, you know how to measure so maybe it just seemed that way versus all the grass slant-stickers in our forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Current map AvgSFMap_1208_2.jpg in before, "That map isn't right. My average is 137:" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Thanks. Makes sense. You seem to have been in a "screw zone" for a lot of storms the last couple winters, but then again, you know how to measure so maybe it just seemed that way versus all the grass slant-stickers in our forum. I actually can't complain much about the prior two winters. I did pretty good in March '13 when everyone else east of me was getting the shaft. This year has been a bit of a bummer though. IAD's median 1981-10 is 17.4" and Vienna's is 16.7", so I guess I'm approaching median. Still, with a super-cold Feb I would have wanted to at least break 10" on the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozz Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 It doesn't matter that much....average doesn't mean a whole lot when our medians are so low....your median is probably 20" that sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Out of curiosity, which parts of that climo map do you disagree with? Hadn't seen that newer map that MN just posted, but I thought the contours were too far north in Harford county (where I grew up) on the old map. Don't like that new map's weird zone of lower snow in much of HoCo, northern PG and eastern MoCo. Splitting hairs though I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 so much for all the Carroll county folks who "average over 35" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I'm not 100% sure what my average is but I've always gone with 21". I like that number. Blackjack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowfan Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 so much for all the Carroll county folks who "average over 35" but Parrs Ridge is the East Coast Rockies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Hadn't seen that newer map that MN just posted, but I thought the contours were too far north in Harford county (where I grew up) on the old map. Don't like that new map's weird zone of lower snow in much of HoCo, northern PG and eastern MoCo. Splitting hairs though I guess. Agree, the 17" and 15" north of DC look suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowfan Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 A bit more info to throw into the mix. Here's the PA annual snowfall map 1981-2010. Based on living in State College for a few years and living in Southern York Co. for 10 years, I'd say this looks accurate. I'd imagine the other side of the boundary in northern MD would be very similar to what you see in Southern York and Adams Counties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Agree, the 17" and 15" north of DC look suspect. It is probably based on CO-OP data which is often incomplete and who knows what else, and then smoothed over...some of it makes little sense...I think I actually like the old map better though it is inflated in a few places Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 A bit more info to throw into the mix. Here's the PA annual snowfall map 1981-2010. Based on living in State College for a few years and living in Southern York Co. for 10 years, I'd say this looks accurate. I'd imagine the other side of the boundary in northern MD would be very similar to what you see in Southern York and Adams Counties. Nope, I wouldn't make that assumption. I kinda think a lot of those numbers are low in S PA....I have 21 years of snow records which average 34.7" over the period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Measuring in the grass is a sin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozz Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 A bit more info to throw into the mix. Here's the PA annual snowfall map 1981-2010. Based on living in State College for a few years and living in Southern York Co. for 10 years, I'd say this looks accurate. I'd imagine the other side of the boundary in northern MD would be very similar to what you see in Southern York and Adams Counties. Some of those southern PA numbers might be low... I know for a fact that Lancaster does not average 18" of snow, it makes no sense to be so low. Millersville is a few miles southwest, 300' elevation, and has 85 years of snowfall records. Long term average is 27", while the last 30 years is 28". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozz Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 It is probably based on CO-OP data which is often incomplete and who knows what else, and then smoothed over...some of it makes little sense...I think I actually like the old map better though it is inflated in a few places It's also deflated in a few places... Warrior Bigfoot almost certainly averages more than 13", probably more like 18" or so. In my area it looks just about right, but it's a sharp gradient from Baltimore to the M/D line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowfan Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 There are bound to be some inaccuracies in the data across an entire State. Some people can't measure if their life depended on it. And some just always want to have the highest amounts. 10 years of living in Stewartstown in Southern York Co. tells me that 29 along the York/Bmore Co. boundary looks pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 22-24" has always seemed about right out here. I always use official measurements vs.my own for the Las 4 years...sometimes it may be low and sometimes high but usually close enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowfan Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Why don't we ever debate rainfall totals or number of thunderstorms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Why don't we ever debate rainfall totals or number of thunderstorms? I would do better with fog totals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Why don't we ever debate rainfall totals or number of thunderstorms? Think my climo is 2 or 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowfan Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I suspect you, Bigfoot and middleriver are the kings/queens of fog on our subforum. I would do better with fog totals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Why don't we ever debate rainfall totals or number of thunderstorms? Heavy automation probably. People like to lie about snow for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozz Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I suspect you, Bigfoot and middleriver are the kings/queens of fog on our subforum. Next time they're foggier than me I'm gonna get jealous and melt down cause it's not fair! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowfan Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I'm not sure people do it with bad intentions. I'm sure I've reported a bad measurement or three, but it wouldn't have been done with the intention of 'coming out on top'. Some folks measure in the grass, round differently than others, etc. At the end of the day, I think most of us know our local climo and are pretty comfortable with it. Maybe I'm giving people too much credit. Heavy automation probably. People like to lie about snow for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowfan Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Next time they're foggier than me I'm gonna get jealous and melt down cause it's not fair! That would be silly. And I don't think anyone is having a meltdown about the snowfall measurements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I suspect you, Bigfoot and middleriver are the kings/queens of fog on our subforum. Fog nobility. I think about moving to DC metro-MD sometimes since life has evolved that nearly my entire social circle is there as well as my music stuff...it's nice to know I wouldn't be sacrificing snow, ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Heavy automation probably. People like to lie about snow for some reason. When you measure with a yardstick it is much harder to be accurate . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Heavy automation probably. People like to lie about snow for some reason. I suspect that is very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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