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January 31-February 2nd Winter Storm Part 2


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LOT playing it a bit cautious.  Funny when 10" is cautious.

 


URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE  NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO IL  247 AM CST SAT JAN 31 2015      ...WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 9 PM CST /10 PM  EST/ THIS EVENING TO 9 PM CST /10 PM EST/ SUNDAY...    * TIMING...ACCUMULATING SNOW WILL BEGIN THIS EVENING.     PRECIPITATION MAY START AS RAIN OR RAIN SNOW MIX...    PARTICULARLY THE FARTHER SOUTH YOU GO FROM INTERSTATE 80.     * SNOW ACCUMULATIONS...WIDESPREAD AMOUNTS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES ARE     EXPECTED BY SUNDAY EVENING...WITH A CHANCE OF ISOLATED HEAVIER     AMOUNTS IN EXCESS OF 10 INCHES...ESPECIALLY NEAR LAKE     MICHIGAN.   
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IWX issues warning. I never thought I'd think seeing 7-11" is a bit conservative! I think many areas in N. IN/SE MI/NW OH see close to a foot with this. 

 

...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 7 PM EST /6 PM CST/ THIS

EVENING TO 4 AM EST /3 AM CST/ MONDAY...

 

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NORTHERN INDIANA HAS ISSUED A

WINTER STORM WARNING FOR HEAVY SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW...WHICH IS

IN EFFECT FROM 7 PM EST /6 PM CST/ THIS EVENING TO 4 AM EST /3 AM

CST/ MONDAY. THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT.

 

* TIMING...SNOW WILL BEGIN THIS EVENING...SPREADING FROM WEST TO

  EAST. THE SNOW WILL CONTINUE SUNDAY...THEN END SUNDAY NIGHT FROM

  WEST TO EAST. THE PERIOD OF HEAVIEST SNOW IS EXPECTED FROM

  SUNDAY MORNING INTO EARLY SUNDAY EVENING.

 

* SNOW ACCUMULATIONS...7 TO 11 INCHES WITH LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS.

 

* IMPACTS...PERIODS OF HEAVY SNOW WITH BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW

  MAKING TRAVEL DIFFICULT OR IMPOSSIBLE WITH SOME UNPLOWED ROADS

  BECOMING IMPASSIBLE.

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IWX issues warning. I never thought I'd think seeing 7-11" is a bit conservative! I think many areas in N. IN/SE MI/NW OH see close to a foot with this. 
 
...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 7 PM EST /6 PM CST/ THIS
EVENING TO 4 AM EST /3 AM CST/ MONDAY...
 
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NORTHERN INDIANA HAS ISSUED A
WINTER STORM WARNING FOR HEAVY SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW...WHICH IS
IN EFFECT FROM 7 PM EST /6 PM CST/ THIS EVENING TO 4 AM EST /3 AM
CST/ MONDAY. THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT.
 
* TIMING...SNOW WILL BEGIN THIS EVENING...SPREADING FROM WEST TO
  EAST. THE SNOW WILL CONTINUE SUNDAY...THEN END SUNDAY NIGHT FROM
  WEST TO EAST. THE PERIOD OF HEAVIEST SNOW IS EXPECTED FROM
  SUNDAY MORNING INTO EARLY SUNDAY EVENING.
 
* SNOW ACCUMULATIONS...7 TO 11 INCHES WITH LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS.
 
* IMPACTS...PERIODS OF HEAVY SNOW WITH BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW
  MAKING TRAVEL DIFFICULT OR IMPOSSIBLE WITH SOME UNPLOWED ROADS
  BECOMING IMPASSIBLE.

 

 

For some reason none of these offices seem to be buying the wetter/snowier outcome outside of GRR ( 8-10 ) who strangely went with that advisory..

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I am always VERY cautious of model snow maps...I look more at qpf...but if the trends continue its going to be hard to NOT believe we could see a foot plus. Especially since its a 30 hour cold storm. Probably will be some compaction but measuring every 6 hours would easily yield over a foot per nam. And possibly well over. But it IS the NAM.

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lol at GRR...

 

I typically try to give them the benefit of the doubt, but this was a huge mistake.

 

And *WOW* at that 06z NAM run. Totals would be approaching 1974 here if that happens...:o

 

I'll see what the 12z runs do. If one more nudge north happens (amongst all models), I WILL be going all full potato

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I am always VERY cautious of model snow maps...I look more at qpf...but if the trends continue its going to be hard to NOT believe we could see a foot plus. Especially since its a 30 hour cold storm. Probably will be some compaction but measuring every 6 hours would easily yield over a foot per nam. And possibly well over. But it IS the NAM.

 

The only issue i have with the the implication in your post is that every other model besides the NAM shows just as much if not more snow/QPF than the NAM (including the highly praised EURO). If i were JUST the NAM, I would agree 100% with you.

 

And while there's still question about placement, if the trend towards a more rapidly deepening/amped system continues (definitely within the practical realm of possibility), we would be in the sweet spot for the last minute NW shift (ala Chicago with GHD 2011).

 

So like I said, I'll try to not get my hope up for now, but if the positive trends continue for the 12z run, then my excitement will be harder to contain...

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The only issue i have with the the implication in your post is that every other model besides the NAM shows just as much if not more snow/QPF than the NAM (including the highly praised EURO). If i were JUST the NAM, I would agree 100% with you.

And while there's still question about placement, if the trend towards a more rapidly deepening/amped system continues (definitely within the practical realm of possibility), we would be in the sweet spot for the last minute NW shift (ala Chicago with GHD 2011).

So like I said, I'll try to not get my hope up for now, but if the positive trends continue for the 12z run, then my excitement will be harder to contain...

its exciting for sure. And quite rare optimism from you! When we were a complete whiff on all models 4 days ago, who would have thought we'd be discussing such things this morning? :)
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From WPC snow discussion.......

"THE WPC FORECAST REFLECTS THE PREVAILING TREND IN THE 00Z MODELS

TOWARD A MORE NORTHERLY TRACK WITH THIS SYSTEM. HOWEVER FORECAST
CONFIDENCE IS TEMPERED BY THE RUN-TO-RUN INCONSISTENCIES THE
MODELS HAVE SHOWN ALONG THE WITH DISTINCT POSSIBILITY THAT THE
MODELS MAY REVERSE TRENDS IN SUBSEQUENT RUNS. "

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