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Winter Med Range Discussion days 3-10 pbp II


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Yep , I'm all in! At 174, there is a storm for only GSP to CLT , who cares about anybody else!

 

The 00z GGEM has that feature, too.  It's a little more robust with it and gives a lot of us a little snow (1-2" for much of SC and NE GA, 2-4" for much of NC).  It's also closer with the coastal a few days earlier than the GFS, though it's still rain.

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I haven't I can remember numerous times in Feb where it would be 70+ degrees followed a day or two later by snow and or ice...check this vintage clip with Stuart Scott (RIP) when he was with WRAL....listen to what he says about the weather leading up to this event..notice it even stuck how can that be...

Same situation down here. Charleston sets an all time record February high of 87 back in 1989, snow falls across the area says later. 0.9" officially at the airport. I picked up close to 4".

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The 6z GFS , has that hot garbage mess of a storm for the 5/6th timeframe , basically shunted south, but try's to get a little precip back towards us and the high building in , looks a little stronger and the cold could possibly be there!? Just enough to keep us hanging on!?

Edit: also has a Feb 12th '14 redux

Edit2: gives me some snowy , Valentines day love!

I love GFS !

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euro is on the jv team now.

Fwiw the EPS show a stormy pattern for the southeast

you were right yesterday the Euro has been all over the place this winter... All the Models for that matter... It's going to take a fluke timing to get a snow storm! Which hasn't happened yet. And I'm soon running out of time down this way........

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The CMC has that storm after the storm at 180. We know how that will work out. :rolleyes:

The Euro at 168 isn't really that far away:

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That's a pretty stout HP. If it works in faster, we could have something. Unfortunately, the trend has clearly been the other way all winter, so why would it change this time?

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I'm enjoying CAE's discussions as of late  :D  

 

.LONG TERM /SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/...
THE NEXT WEATHER SYSTEM THAT WILL AFFECT THE FORECAST AREA WILL BE
MOVING TOWARDS THE CWA DURING THE DAY ON SUNDAY. MODELS HAVE
CONTINUED THE TREND OF SLOWING THIS SYSTEM DOWN SLIGHTLY. EXPECT
THE DAY ON SUNDAY TO START OFF DRY...WITH INCREASING CLOUDINESS
AHEAD OF THE SYSTEM. THE MAIN UPPER SUPPORT WITH THE SYSTEM WILL
NOT MOVE INTO THE REGION UNTIL LATE IN THE DAY SUNDAY BEFORE MOVING
ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY MORNING. THE
SURFACE LOW WILL TRACK NORTHEASTWARD THROUGH THE OHIO RIVER
VALLEY...PUSHING A COLD FRONT INTO THE SOUTHEAST OVERNIGHT SUNDAY
AND MONDAY MORNING. WITH WARM ADVECTION PATTERN SETTING UP SUNDAY
NIGHT...TEMPERATURES MAY NOT DROP MUCH AND MAY ACTUALLY RISE
SLIGHTLY AFTER MIDNIGHT SUNDAY NIGHT AS THE PRECIP MOVES THROUGH.
THE SURFACE FRONT WILL PUSH THROUGH THE REGION RAPIDLY DURING THE
DAY ON MONDAY...TAKING THE PRECIP ALONG WITH IT. BRIEF RETURN TO
DRY WEATHER SHOULD OCCUR FROM MONDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH EARLY TUESDAY
NIGHT. THEN THE NEXT WEATHER SYSTEM WILL BE POISED TO PUSH THROUGH
THE AREA. AT THIS TIME THE MODELS DO DIFFER WITH THE STRENGTH AND
TIMING OF THE SYSTEM FOR WEDNESDAY...WITH THE GFS DEVELOPING AND
TRACKING THE SURFACE LOW FROM THE GULF NORTHEASTWARD MUCH FASTER
THAN THE ECMWF DOES. THE GFS ALSO HAS MORE OF A SOUTHWESTERLY
UPPER FLOW PATTERN EARLIER THAN THE ECMWF DOES...WHICH WOULD
ACCOUNT FOR THE FASTER SPEED OF THE SURFACE FEATURES. WITH THE
FASTER SPEED..
.THE GFS BRINGS THE PRECIP ACROSS THE REGION ON
WEDNESDAY...WHILE THE 00Z ECMWF IS DRIER ON WEDNESDAY. THE ECMWF
BRINGS THE PRECIP THROUGH LATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT INTO THURSDAY.
STILL MUCH UNCERTAINTY. WENT GENERALLY WITH A BLEND OF THE
PREVIOUS FORECAST AND THE LATEST 00Z HPC GUIDANCE FOR NOW. STILL

MUCH UNCERTAINTY THOUGH. 

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And we are all the way back to the Huntington WV solution from a few days ago on the SB storm, just a hair weaker.  Unbelievable how much these models are shifting around this year :underthewx:

 

The interesting thing is that the Canadian model was forecasting this track a few days ago while the Euro was showing a snowstorm for most of NC. I don't trust the Euro any more than the other models.

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GFS looks like it might be a descent hit @158 for at least NC/TN...if that trough can sharpen as keep going it will allow our energy to dig more and give us something really good. Not a bad look at 5h.

That's the look the GFS had a few days ago but lost the energy over the last few days . The GGEM has been showing this feature for days. The clown maps are not too hot looking

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That's the look the GFS had a few days ago but lost the energy over the last few days . The GGEM has been showing this feature for days. The clown maps are not too hot looking

 

I wouldn't expect the clown maps to pick up on much but the QPF and overall look should give a good hit if it played out like the GFS has it. Kind of reminds me of the one descent hit of snow I got in my back yard on Feb 16th strong vort overhead just wringing out the atmosphere. 

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I'm enjoying CAE's discussions as of late   :D

 

.LONG TERM /SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/...

THE NEXT WEATHER SYSTEM THAT WILL AFFECT THE FORECAST AREA WILL BE

MOVING TOWARDS THE CWA DURING THE DAY ON SUNDAY. MODELS HAVE

CONTINUED THE TREND OF SLOWING THIS SYSTEM DOWN SLIGHTLY. EXPECT

THE DAY ON SUNDAY TO START OFF DRY...WITH INCREASING CLOUDINESS

AHEAD OF THE SYSTEM. THE MAIN UPPER SUPPORT WITH THE SYSTEM WILL

NOT MOVE INTO THE REGION UNTIL LATE IN THE DAY SUNDAY BEFORE MOVING

ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY MORNING. THE

SURFACE LOW WILL TRACK NORTHEASTWARD THROUGH THE OHIO RIVER

VALLEY...PUSHING A COLD FRONT INTO THE SOUTHEAST OVERNIGHT SUNDAY

AND MONDAY MORNING. WITH WARM ADVECTION PATTERN SETTING UP SUNDAY

NIGHT...TEMPERATURES MAY NOT DROP MUCH AND MAY ACTUALLY RISE

SLIGHTLY AFTER MIDNIGHT SUNDAY NIGHT AS THE PRECIP MOVES THROUGH.

THE SURFACE FRONT WILL PUSH THROUGH THE REGION RAPIDLY DURING THE

DAY ON MONDAY...TAKING THE PRECIP ALONG WITH IT. BRIEF RETURN TO

DRY WEATHER SHOULD OCCUR FROM MONDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH EARLY TUESDAY

NIGHT. THEN THE NEXT WEATHER SYSTEM WILL BE POISED TO PUSH THROUGH

THE AREA. AT THIS TIME THE MODELS DO DIFFER WITH THE STRENGTH AND

TIMING OF THE SYSTEM FOR WEDNESDAY...WITH THE GFS DEVELOPING AND

TRACKING THE SURFACE LOW FROM THE GULF NORTHEASTWARD MUCH FASTER

THAN THE ECMWF DOES. THE GFS ALSO HAS MORE OF A SOUTHWESTERLY

UPPER FLOW PATTERN EARLIER THAN THE ECMWF DOES...WHICH WOULD

ACCOUNT FOR THE FASTER SPEED OF THE SURFACE FEATURES. WITH THE

FASTER SPEED...THE GFS BRINGS THE PRECIP ACROSS THE REGION ON

WEDNESDAY...WHILE THE 00Z ECMWF IS DRIER ON WEDNESDAY. THE ECMWF

BRINGS THE PRECIP THROUGH LATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT INTO THURSDAY.

STILL MUCH UNCERTAINTY. WENT GENERALLY WITH A BLEND OF THE

PREVIOUS FORECAST AND THE LATEST 00Z HPC GUIDANCE FOR NOW. STILL

MUCH UNCERTAINTY THOUGH. 

Easy!  It'll either rain, or snow, or it won't :)  I'm expecting the Goofy long range dangdoozer to hit you and me for a huge, big mega sleet/snow __________ (insert your preferred precip here)...that is if your commando raid succeeded in shutting down the portals for the rest of winter, lol.  Heck, it's been cold enough for coats, and I even had rain yesterday while the sun was out...what's not to like :)  Tony

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I'd say keep an eye on mid week.  Moisture taking the right path with some good cold bearing down.  It's all about timing when nothing else is in our favor.  Colder highs would help :)  But there's time for those 1032's not to moderate, but to speed up, and slow down respectively, lol.  T

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Easy!  It'll either rain, or snow, or it won't :)  I'm expecting the Goofy long range dangdoozer to hit you and me for a huge, big mega sleet/snow __________ (insert your preferred precip here)...that is if your commando raid succeeded in shutting down the portals for the rest of winter, lol.  Heck, it's been cold enough for coats, and I even had rain yesterday while the sun was out...what's not to like :)  Tony

I took every weapon available and after upgrading my rain stick with cubed ice from the magical wonderland, it appears as if the portals will be (at least) temporarily held in check. So I'm calling this ritual a success. I'm still not sure if my neighbors will ever recover though.....what has been seen, can never be unseen   :P

 

The GFS holds   ;)

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