strongwxnc Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Large qpf moving into Nega, the upstate and WNC at 135. Looks like WNC is below freezing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookout Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 precip explodes by hour 132..freezing line actually drops back down to the ga/sc line. Major freezing rain in the carolinas. In all likely hood it never gets above freezing in north ga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calculus1 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Snowfall map from the 12Z GFS: And the snowfall map from the 12Z GEM: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Euro has a change over to snow at the end of the event. I rooting against this giant crippling ice storm... But we're due Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduwx Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 The euro is different than other models in the way the cold air is handled. The initial HP to the north slides east off the coast but the PV rotates south keeping the cold around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Well KCAE does get Wintry precip this time around. The "snow maps" on the 12z Euro have come South around here. UGH it's probably ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookout Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 btw, surface low is south of the canadian. southeast alabama/or around columbus or a little south of there. heavy precip everywhere by 138. cold air coming in from the back end... freezing line goes from just west of atlanta to the nc/sc/ga border to gso. Some back end snow in northern alabama, northwest ga/mountains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduwx Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 RDU appears to get a decent snow event after some ice as the trough goes negative. Overall a good event on the euro, it just look different than other models. It could be like the Ukie but hard to tell w/ the 24 hr images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNCCmetgrad Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I dont know if you remember this event but December 2000 had this huge warm front that pushed CLT up to 62 degrees. The front never made it to Gastonia which remained in the 30's. Pretty cool event. It think I do. I was living in Mint Hill at the time and it was near 70 at my house. I've a few interesting cases where the warm front was rocketing northwest through Monroe, Rock Hill, and Charlotte then it hit the brakes once it gets to Gaston Co. March 3rd 2012 CLT was 64 while I was at 54 and im 3.6 miles wnw of the airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookout Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 i don't envy the nws. Very tough and dynamic system to forecast for. It's much colder during the heart of the event for north ga/upsate. Went from 40s and 50s to low to mid 30s before dropping again. My gut feeling is the euro would probably mean temps never get above freezing for large sections of north ga and the upstate..and obviously the damming regions of north carolina. since it goes from the 20s and snow, to barely above freezing then actually moves the freezing line back south from the northeast initially then from the northwest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeVa Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 All I care about at this point is that the Euro made a move SE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No snow for you Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 i don't envy the nws. Very tough and dynamic system to forecast for. It's much colder during the heart of the event for north ga/upsate. Went from 40s and 50s to low to mid 30s before dropping again. My gut feeling is the euro would probably mean temps never get above freezing for large sections of north ga and the upstate..and obviously the damming regions of north carolina. since it goes from the 20s and snow, to above freezing then actually moves the freezing line back south from the northeast initially then from the northwest. I would agree with this. I think the CAD will hang in longer and keep temps at or below 32. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullCityWx Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Euro is now a major winter storm for almost the entire CLT metro. Worse as you head N&W like usual but another dramatic shift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strongwxnc Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 With some mighty fine cold air to boot after the system moves through... Euro is now a major winter storm for almost the entire CLT metro. Worse as you head N&W like usual but another dramatic shift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin NCwx Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 All hail king Euronevermind the big shift from its last run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallsLake Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 i don't envy the nws. Very tough and dynamic system to forecast for. It's much colder during the heart of the event for north ga/upsate. Went from 40s and 50s to low to mid 30s before dropping again. My gut feeling is the euro would probably mean temps never get above freezing for large sections of north ga and the upstate..and obviously the damming regions of north carolina. since it goes from the 20s and snow, to barely above freezing then actually moves the freezing line back south from the northeast initially then from the northwest. I'm interested to here their afternoon discussions. I would expect that they add this threat to the Hazardous Outlook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookout Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Euro is now a major winter storm for almost the entire CLT metro. Worse as you head N&W like usual but another dramatic shift. Sure is. 1 to 1.5 inch liquid over the mountains and 1.5 or greater over the rest of nc. 1.5 to 2 inch liquid over north ga/upstate. This is a BIG winter storm too for northern alabama with 1 inch liquid and a lot of that being snow. Far northwest ga too..looks like snow to ice, then back to snow for areas north of rome toward chattanooga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin NCwx Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 #EuroUkieleadingthewaythe ukie has, the euro has changed from run to run. Big changes I might add. For the record I don't buy that euro run at all. It has no support for holding back some energy by its own ensembles or any other model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfan98 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Well, the Euro ended up a major mess in the CAD areas. Here's a "snowfall" map I saw in the MA thread. Regardless of type, this is a ton of frozen precip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Well, the Euro ended up a major mess in the CAD areas. Here's a "snowfall" map I saw in the MA thread. Regardless of type, this is a ton of frozen precip. I like EuroWx snowfall maps, they seem to have it right. WxBell throws out 9" at RDU yet only 0.2" falls with 850mb temps below freezing. The gradient, as far as snow is concerned, looks right here....until you get to the 15"+ not sure on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlaringSun Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Quite a weenie run indeed, gives 5 inches to Metro ATL and up to a foot in the southern Apps. If only this were to verify... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovingGulfLows Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I'm praying the low continues to shift southward. Really want some snow for the Atlanta area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNCCmetgrad Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Euro puts down a quarter to half an inch of ice for the Upstate of SC southern piedmont/foothills/sandhills of NC then northeast to around RDU and points further east. In fact some areas around Raleigh to Roanoke Rapids look like 1/2in plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strongwxnc Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Wow. Thanks for posting!! Euro puts down a quarter to half an inch of ice for the Upstate of SC southern piedmont/foothills/sandhills of NC then northeast to around RDU and points further east. In fact some areas around Raleigh to Roanoke Rapids look like 1/2in plus. getimg.php.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullCityWx Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Euro puts down a quarter to half an inch of ice for the Upstate of SC southern piedmont/foothills/sandhills of NC then northeast to around RDU and points further east. In fact some areas around Raleigh to Roanoke Rapids look like 1/2in plus. getimg.php.jpg Did you see how cold we get? Down to 0 on thursday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Quite a weenie run indeed, gives 5 inches to Metro ATL and up to a foot in the southern Apps. If only this were to verify... Why post this snowfall output? 300 some odd people are going to run with it. That's not snow in ATL 850s are nowhere near 0 for the most of the precip. Same with RDU, 0.2" falls with 850mb finally below 0c..should be 2" snow in Raleigh not 9" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 So I gather the Euro is really all-snow here based on those EuroWx maps (which are supposedly accurate)? Hard to believe. I'll look on WB when I get home later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonheimer Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 So I gather the Euro is really all-snow here based on those EuroWx maps (which are supposedly accurate)? Hard to believe. I'll look on WB when I get home later. Im thinking alot of the stuff for SE VA would be a mix/rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduwx Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Why post this snowfall output? 300 some odd people are going to run with it. That's not snow in ATL 850s are nowhere near 0 for the most of the precip. Same with RDU, 0.2" falls with 850mb finally below 0c..should be 2" snow in Raleigh not 9"I'm now on my phone but if I remember correctly the Euro was more than 2" for the RDU area. Most of the snow falls after that hr 144 mark when the trough axis goes negative. I'll double check that when I get back k to computer.Edit: BTW, I agree about the posting of snow maps. They are entertainment only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I'm now on my phone but if I remember correctly the Euro was more than 2" for the RDU area. Most of the snow falls after that hr 144 mark when the trough axis goes negative. I'll double check that when I get back k to computer. I only have 6 hour frames but 2" is even more than EuroWx maps gave RDU. At 138 0.5" is the previous 6hr precip at RDU and that's not snow, at 144hrs it's right at 2C at 850mb over RDU, 6 hr precip from 144-150hrs is 0.2" for RDU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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