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February pattern discussion


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  On 2/16/2015 at 6:27 PM, 40/70 Benchmark said:

Well, that would be a break, will talk about that if we get a blizz next week. Scott, doesn't matter gow much we missed by, we missed. All that matters

 

That's different. I'm referring to the other comments about a pattern change to milder wx and no nor'easters. Of course we have to get a break at some point. :lol:

 

And as far as missing by 60 miles, nobody can claim that 8 days out. 

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  On 2/16/2015 at 6:27 PM, CoastalWx said:

Lets see how the public feels about "no nor'easters" when we have 7" turned to rain and then flash frozen. I'm sure they'll love that change.

The op euro is in fact advertising a swfe with front end snow to rain and flash freeze in the d6 range with serious cold and snow chances to follow. Pete better hope it's not right (probable).

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  On 2/16/2015 at 6:27 PM, CoastalWx said:

Lets see how the public feels about "no nor'easters" when we have 7" turned to rain and then flash frozen. I'm sure they'll love that change.

some odd posts in face of todays modeling. But I will sit it out less Pickles accuses me again. Suffice to say listen to Scooter
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It really doesn't seem that complicated

 

when you read what he said and take in to effect the retro of the trough

 

if you take him out of context it sounds ridiculous

 

 

the statement just says a break from 1' nor'easters , not really going out on a limb , could still get a foot from over-running blah blah , NBD really. Just wouldn't make the post something it wasn't. Did he get lucky with this Storm tomorrow, I don't know did it ever have 1' + potential?

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  On 2/16/2015 at 6:31 PM, weathafella said:

The op euro is in fact advertising a swfe with front end snow to rain and flash freeze in the d6 range with serious cold and snow chances to follow. Pete better hope it's not right (probable).

this morning I made this post. An ice storm would be devastating.
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  On 2/16/2015 at 6:31 PM, N. OF PIKE said:

It really doesn't seem that complicated

 

when you read what he said and take in to effect the retro of the trough

 

if you take him out of context it sounds ridiculous

 

 

the statement just says a break from 1' nor'easters , not really going out on a limb , could still get a foot from over-running blah blah , NBD really. Just wouldn't make the post something it wasn't.

Someone said he it true no Nor'easters anymore on air. Very dumb.

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Well the public cares. If you say no more nor'easters..it sounds like winter is done. If you say we may potentially relax (which is what I said for two days), that is different.  Everything I see points to a continued active pattern, minus 850 temps of -30C. Sure we may not get 20" every week..but it looks active.

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  On 2/16/2015 at 6:33 PM, CoastalWx said:

Well the public cares. If you say no more nor'easters..it sounds like winter is done. If you say we may potentially relax (which is what I said for two days), that is different.  Everything I see points to a continued active pattern, minus 850 temps of -30C. Sure we may not get 20" every week..but it looks active.

He kind of walked it back later saying he felt there was a pattern change but others in the office had differing opinions, I didn't stay around to hear him elaborate.

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  On 2/16/2015 at 6:34 PM, CoastalWx said:

Classic euro, Probably won't happen.

 

Agreed.  However, it will happen at some point, I just doubt its this weekend.  But that cutter is coming at some point, haha.

 

 

  On 2/16/2015 at 6:44 PM, CoastalWx said:

Euri is already weaker than the 00z run. I wouldn't sweat a cutter yet.

 

No one should sweat anything, even if it were to rain.  Historic run down there, no one should complain even if winter ended today (not happening, just for example).  Like Ginxy said, if it ended today, its still an A+ winter for SNE due to the incredible 3 weeks.

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  On 2/16/2015 at 6:27 PM, CoastalWx said:

Lets see how the public feels about "no nor'easters" when we have 7" turned to rain and then flash frozen. I'm sure they'll love that change.

Hey, it only rained on us by 50 miles.....if it had tracked 50 miles further east, it would have stayed snow.

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  On 2/16/2015 at 6:30 PM, CoastalWx said:

That's different. I'm referring to the other comments about a pattern change to milder wx and no nor'easters. Of course we have to get a break at some point. :lol:

 

And as far as missing by 60 miles, nobody can claim that 8 days out. 

No, you said that regarding tmw's event.

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  On 2/16/2015 at 7:03 PM, 40/70 Benchmark said:

Have to remember how cold the ocean is, too..at least the parts that aren't frozen.

 

It's going to be tough to advect much warmth off of the ocean on the heels of this stretch.

 

Hopefully we can have a CJ of a different variety. :lol:

 

Yes. BDF should be awesome in May. 

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  On 2/16/2015 at 7:03 PM, CoastalWx said:

That is referring to a comment made earlier last week about no nor'easters. We got buried yesterday and then just miss tomorrow. It's just a silly comment to make. 

Just seems like a semantics sword fight.

 

But if the ridge axis has shifts, something has changed.

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  On 2/16/2015 at 7:03 PM, CoastalWx said:

That is referring to a comment made earlier last week about no nor'easters. We got buried yesterday and then just miss tomorrow. It's just a silly comment to make. 

not to beat a dead horse (seriously I don't mean to) lol , but I keep seeing this mis-quoted, he said no more nor'easters after Sunday's 1'+storm "in the pipe line" not for the year.

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  On 2/16/2015 at 7:07 PM, N. OF PIKE said:

not to beat a dead horse (seriously I don't mean to) lol , but I keep seeing this mis-quoted, he said no more nor'easters after Sunday's 1'+storm.

Still a dumb comment. Why not just say it looks like it will relax and we may be done with getting 30" every week. That's an awful statement to make to the public. As someone who has to communicate to the public, it's a horrible statement.

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  On 2/16/2015 at 7:12 PM, CoastalWx said:

Still a dumb comment. Why not just say it looks like it will relax and we may be done with getting 30" every week. That's an awful statement to make to the public. As someone who has to communicate to the public, it's a horrible statement.

I think what it comes down to is that they get lax with terminology when addressing the public....like during the blizzard they were attributing the heavy band n and w of Boston to the cf, despite it being along he immediate coast.

It was due to the deformation band, but they just generalize and do not pay attention to detail.

It doesn't matter to anyone but us.

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