RU848789 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Posted this in the other thread and figured I'd add it here - especially looking for insight on what went wrong, as I haven't had time to read through the threads and don't have time to do it now, either... Have about 6" here in Metuchen (northern Middlesex County). Measured from 4-8" with an average around 6". My corroboration of 6" is that we had a solid 4" last night after part 1, by 8 pm, and I got home from the local pub around 9 pm and my car had 2" of fresh snow on top of it this morning. Blizzard, lol. Haven't waded through the threads, yet, but has anyone done a half decent post mortem yet? Was it track, intensity (if either of those, why?) or much stronger and drier air being replenished from our NW, robbing us of moisture, or something else (aliens, gremlins, etc.)? Clearly, the "storm" kicked ass from eastern Nassau County through SE New England with 18-30" or more and serious blizzard conditions. The NWS predictions were essentially off by ~60 miles, as the expected snow in eastern PA is what we got ~60 miles to the east in NE NJ near the Hudson, and the snow we expected in NE NJ was received from eastern Nassau and points eastward, ~60 miles to our east. If the track was off by 60 miles that might explain it - not saying it was, just noting the differences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRRTA22 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I strongly believe one of these years in our lifetime we will break the all time record snowfall in NYC. It's almost expected at this point..Extreme is the new normal...Just didn't work out for us this storm 2 weeks ago didn't look promising at all for snow...Now most places are 12" or more for the month with more possibly to come on Thursday. Can't go wrong with that. Our "big one" will come when nature is ready to destroy us all Lol Had a blast tracking this storm and the images are unforgettable. 25 degrees w/ light snow ; 7.0" total Jersey City, NJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastalplainsnowman Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 How is it that over the past few years, Massapequa in SE nassau is Nassau jackpot or near jackpot on so many storms, especially when so many of them from an overall LI perspective jackpot on the Suffolk north shore? Edit: link: http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&issuedby=OKX&product=PNS&format=CI&version=1&glossary=1&highlight=off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 The breadth of you r knowledge is always impressive. I guarantee you that most people here are scratching their heads. Thank you very much for the kind words. I do appreciate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 How is it that over the past few years, Massapequa in SE nassau is Nassau jackpot or near jackpot on so many storms, especially when so many of them from an overall LI perspective jackpot on the Suffolk north shore? Edit: link: http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&issuedby=OKX&product=PNS&format=CI&version=1&glossary=1&highlight=off Slanted yardstick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Slanted yardstick? BTW...all kidding aside, I'm most assuredly not calling into question the legitimacy of that number or any previous numbers submitted; though, having lived out here for a spell...I can say with a fair amount of certainty that SE Nassau county is a good deal less snowy than most of the rest of that county... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Even removing the rain v snow factor where precip type is a non issue...there are still other reasons why it should be a bit snowier away from the immediate South Shore...the flatness of the terrain v the slightly more undulating landscape on the N. Shore...a less favorable location to benefit from winds off the Sound...the atmospheric stabilization caused by being right by the ocean...thus diminishing lift.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 The heaviest snow we saw here was for a couple of hours this morning...if it would have snowed like that last night from 11pm to 6 am, we would have seen our 20". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCG RS Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I'm going to ask a serious question that perhaps another met better versed than myself could answer. As some of you know, a large asteroid made a very close pass to the earth. My question becomes, could the close pass of the large asteroid have affected the atmosphere to the point it shifted this storm, hence why the models began to pick up and shift Sunday night and Monday and why the low pressure system actually did shift. I'm wondering if the gravitational effects of the asteroid pass could have the disturbed the atmosphere enough to cause the shift. Just a thought and question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I'm going to ask a serious question that perhaps another met better versed than myself could answer. As some of you know, a large asteroid made a very close pass to the earth. My question becomes, could the close pass of the large asteroid have affected the atmosphere to the point it shifted this storm, hence why the models began to pick up and shift Sunday night and Monday and why the low pressure system actually did shift. I'm wondering if the gravitational effects of the asteroid pass could have the disturbed the atmosphere enough to cause the shift. Just a thought and question. I am not a met but that backside SW was not grabbed by the better obs until 12z Sat so the error may have been the wave separation getting resolved late . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JERSEYSNOWROB Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 7.8 inches of new snow here in Marlboro, NJ Monmouth County. Total snow cover on the ground is around 10 inches between the last storm and todays. Still snowing lightly but am hoping to get 1 more good band through here before the storm ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 5 inches here. Huge bust obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mophstymeo Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Sun is peeking through in Queens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I'm going to ask a serious question that perhaps another met better versed than myself could answer. As some of you know, a large asteroid made a very close pass to the earth. My question becomes, could the close pass of the large asteroid have affected the atmosphere to the point it shifted this storm, hence why the models began to pick up and shift Sunday night and Monday and why the low pressure system actually did shift. I'm wondering if the gravitational effects of the asteroid pass could have the disturbed the atmosphere enough to cause the shift. Just a thought and question. I don't think it would have caused any noticeable change. That asteroid has a mass of about 157bn (10^9) kg, while the Earth has a mass of about 6 septillion (10^24) kg. Hell, the moon has a mass of 7.3x10^22 kg (73 sextillion kg). The orders of magnitude in terms of size differences are in the trillions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 8.2" is the final here. A lot of averaging. Ranging from about 6" to 10" generally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drz1111 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I'm going to ask a serious question that perhaps another met better versed than myself could answer. As some of you know, a large asteroid made a very close pass to the earth. My question becomes, could the close pass of the large asteroid have affected the atmosphere to the point it shifted this storm, hence why the models began to pick up and shift Sunday night and Monday and why the low pressure system actually did shift. I'm wondering if the gravitational effects of the asteroid pass could have the disturbed the atmosphere enough to cause the shift. Just a thought and question. This is the dumbest post I've ever read on this forum, when you account for the fact that you (presumably) have a college degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metsfan Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 20'' in Western Suffolk County in New York. The total was averaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 SPOTTER REPORTS NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY 1005 AM EST TUE JAN 27 2015 ...NASSAU COUNTY... OCEANSIDE 17.0 900 AM 1/27 TRAINED SPOTTER BELLMORE 8.5 815 AM 1/27 TRAINED SPOTTER At least one of them needs to be re-trained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Hers the latest updates I have. Estimates LGA: 12.6 NYC: 11.2 EWR: 8.9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 At least one of them needs to be re-trained.Oceanside usually comes in high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 This is the dumbest post I've ever read on this forum, when you account for the fact that you (presumably) have a college degree. I read a great many dumber posts in this sub-forum yesterday alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Oceanside usually comes in high. He took two measurements and added them instead of averaging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 12.6" at KLGA Same here in Whitestone, Queens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherlogix Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 anyone know what the report is out of Montauk? Did they hit 30"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drz1111 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I read a great many dumber posts in this sub-forum yesterday alone. But you can calculate the gravitational force that the asteroid would've had on the atmosphere with an iPhone calculator and high school physics. How can someone not be able to solve that problem, yet still be able to interpret model output? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SNfreak21 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Measured 9" after compaction, but looking at other nearby reports and basing it off the radar returns I would say 10.5" is a good estimate. Almost identical to the Feb 2013 storm, It was a solid snowstorm but not the HECS I was hoping for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Sun has been peaking through for the past couple of hours, and there's some melting going on. I got an average of 21.5" here. I thought the drifts would throw things way off, but it seems legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayuud11 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 He took two measurements and added them instead of averaging. I like it...may add it to my repertoire... <The joke, not the measuring technique> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Hers the latest updates I have. Estimates LGA: 12.6 NYC: 11.2 EWR: 8.9 pretty close to Feb. 2013...the 11.2" came from noaa?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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