ILoveWinter Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I think people are a bit more hysterical due to the frustrating HRRR and RAP runs. Patience would prob be higher otherwise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynwx99 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Patience my friend. Things are on track, but the storm is moving a touch slower. Great for capturing purposes, but agony as we wait for the storm to explode. It will be worth it... I agree with you here. If the storm is indeed moving slower, then the storm will have more time to capture and develop. This would lead to greater development and possible NNW/NW movement in storm track. If so, then it will be well worth it in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoulderWX Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 At first glance 21z SREF mean looks wetter wetter? they were at like 18" mean for LGA at 15Z - wetter would be interesting.. but lets confirm before we speculate.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard-on-GFS Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Man this storm looks absolutely beautiful at 500 mb with that negative trough, you'd think this would be an absolutely huge hit for TTN-NYC on northeast. This wait is agonizing, I'm having flashbacks to March of 2001. Just gotta have patience. However having the short term models and the GFS so far east is making me very anxious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I agree with you here. If the storm is indeed moving slower, then the storm will have more time to capture and develop. This would lead to greater development and possible NNW/NW movement in storm track. If so, then it will be well worth it in the end. Hey brooklynw99, what's your avatar from? 2014? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 come on no model had that band that formed on some sort of front. the nam got it right for the wrong reasons If the model initializes better than any other model and its representation matches what is aloft what do you do toss it ? Have some patience WPC MODELS SHOW THE GRADUAL INTENSIFICATION OF SNOWFALL RATES COINCIDENT WITH STRENGTHENING LOW- TO MID-LEVEL FRONTOGENETIC FORCING FOR ASCENT INTO SRN NEW ENGLAND AND ERN LONG ISLAND DURING THE 01-03 UTC PERIOD. INITIALLY SNOWFALL RATES AROUND 1 INCH/HOUR WILL BE CONFINED TO IMMEDIATE COASTAL AREAS OF RI AND ADJACENT PORTIONS OF MA BUT ARE FORECAST TO DEVELOP INLAND DURING THE 01-03 UTC PERIOD. IT IS LIKELY THE HEAVIER RATES /2 INCHES PER HOUR OR GREATER/ WILL OCCUR BEYOND 04Z CONCURRENT WITH INTENSIFYING MID-LEVEL FORCING FOR ASCENT FAVORABLY TIMED WITH STRENGTHENING FRONTOGENESIS OVER SRN ENGLAND AND LONG ISLAND. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynwx99 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Hey brooklynw99, what's your avatar from? 2014? Yeah I was at the ripe age of 14 at the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doorman Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/mesoanalysis/new/archiveviewer.php?sector=19&parm=pwtr lets see if the values improve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgwp96 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 If the model initializes better than any other model and its representation matches what is aloft what do you do toss it ? Have some patience WPC MODELS SHOW THE GRADUAL INTENSIFICATION OF SNOWFALL RATES COINCIDENT WITH STRENGTHENING LOW- TO MID-LEVEL FRONTOGENETIC FORCING FOR ASCENT INTO SRN NEW ENGLAND AND ERN LONG ISLAND DURING THE 01-03 UTC PERIOD. INITIALLY SNOWFALL RATES AROUND 1 INCH/HOUR WILL BE CONFINED TO IMMEDIATE COASTAL AREAS OF RI AND ADJACENT PORTIONS OF MA BUT ARE FORECAST TO DEVELOP INLAND DURING THE 01-03 UTC PERIOD. IT IS LIKELY THE HEAVIER RATES /2 INCHES PER HOUR OR GREATER/ WILL OCCUR BEYOND 04Z CONCURRENT WITH INTENSIFYING MID-LEVEL FORCING FOR ASCENT FAVORABLY TIMED WITH STRENGTHENING FRONTOGENESIS OVER SRN ENGLAND AND LONG ISLAND. i am, im saying euro has better handle and has most precip falling by me between 1am and 1pm. im just saying the nam was off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poleshiftnow Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Patience grasshoppers the party doesn't start till 10pm It's coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsteff Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Patience grasshoppers the party doesn't start till 10pm It's coming yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCG RS Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Patience grasshoppers the party doesn't start till 10pm It's coming As has been said, the wait is worth it. The storm moving slower gives it a chance to really develop and back build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherweather Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Gotta remember the nam was painting 2.5-3" of QPF for the city which is 30-35 inches of snow in these ratios. So just because were not on pace with nam does not by any means make this storm a bust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WintersGrasp Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 At first glance 21z SREF mean looks wetterIt looks to me like it shows the sharp cutoff anywhere west of Long Island. Reflects the east trend not of the storm, but of the advancing precip shield and bands. Can you confirm? If so, our plumes are going to take a big dip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Final verdict on SREF? Heard it was less for Philly. Not sure for your area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=OKX&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes It's coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 It looks to me like it shows the sharp cutoff anywhere west of Long Island. Reflects the east trend not of the storm, but of the advancing precip shield and bands. Can you confirm? If so, our plumes are going to take a big dip Looks like 1.25+ for NYC eastward. Sharp gradient to the west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 If these two meso-bands can keep moving west within the precip field, then we should be in business. On the other hand, if they stall out then we'll know where we stand with this storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WintersGrasp Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 The NAM is going to end up just being the NAM.....pretty much shuts down chances of a big snowstorm in jersey. More and more cards are on the table, and none other than the NAM support the huge snowstorm (for NJ at least....NYC east can still see a foot of snow). I hate to be so blunt, but model data is what is used for forecasts. Today I've seen a lot of "it's coming : it looks beautiful".....and ignoring the models, the very things the pros use to make the forecasts. This one does look beautiful, but it's just not ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Looks like 1.25+ for NYC eastward. Sharp gradient to the west. What's it look like North nyc like orange and rockland counties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntenseBlizzard2014 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Looks like 1.25+ for NYC eastward. Sharp gradient to the west. That's the additional precip BTW. It's not including what already fell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 The snow is moving west-patience. The NJ Shore should be snowing soon with the band rotating in from the east, and the heavy stuff over Suffolk will keep pivoting west. The storm is still very much in the developing stages, and the bands won't stop coming west until the low stacks which won't be for a while. I think the NJ shore, NYC and Long Island are good to go, the questionable area is Philly and the DE River, where Mt. Holly forecasted 10-14 inches. I think that may be in trouble given the sharp edge the snow will have to the west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snot Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Wow...Blizzard cancel???? John Bolaris is now saying NYC could be cut-off of plowable snow, with just 6-10", less across NJ, 18"+ for eastern tip of LI! WTF! DiMartino must be sweating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnesota Meso Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 There is no doubt in my mind that this storm has been captured. Just because the H7 hasn't closed is not a concern as of yet. If it doesn't close by 01/27/0z-04z we may have a problem. I'm encouraged it hasn't closed off yet, as that would mean the storm is at it's strongest, and would quickly weaken thereafter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 What's it look like North nyc like orange and rockland counties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Wow...Blizzard cancel???? John Bolaris is now saying NYC could be cut-off of plowable snow, with just 6-10", less across NJ, 18"+ for eastern tip of LI! WTF! DiMartino must be sweating. NYC already has 5 inches. WTF is up with these tv people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Wow...Blizzard cancel???? John Bolaris is now saying NYC could be cut-off of plowable snow, with just 6-10", less across NJ, 18"+ for eastern tip of LI! WTF! DiMartino must be sweating. Well we already have 5-6" so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Looks like 1.25+ for NYC eastward. Sharp gradient to the west. Off graphics, looks more like 1"+ for NYC, and generally less than the 15Z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allgame830 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 The snow is moving west-patience. The NJ Shore should be snowing soon with the band rotating in from the east, and the heavy stuff over Suffolk will keep pivoting west. The storm is still very much in the developing stages, and the bands won't stop coming west until the low stacks which won't be for a while. I think the NJ shore, NYC and Long Island are good to go, the questionable area is Philly and the DE River, where Mt. Holly forecasted 10-14 inches. I think that may be in trouble given the sharp edge the snow will have to the west. Thank you finally some word of reasoning... We all seem to freak out with every storm but I do have to tell you this really is agonizing in regards to the waiting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 And the Weather Channel dropping NYC to 8-12"... :lmao: NYC is already probably at 5", and should be good for another foot or more with this. WTF are they smoking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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