ORH_wxman Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Nam colder west, Warmer out east It's warmer aloft where you are too...but it just happens at 750mb vs 850...you are getting sandblasted with pellets on the NAM run for several hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Nam colder west, Warmer out east Just at 850, but it's within the realm of noise. 2 hrs earlier it could have been over you. This forecast will suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkO Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Where will it stay all snow? NH Border or north of 495/Rt2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Good luck dude... you've been on the watching end of some of the NNE storms lately, hopefully you can score big in a SNE storm haha. Thanks man, Its funny how this one has crept up over the last day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 18z Nam is a crushing up here Do tell................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 GFS is such a piece of cow sh*t. From a whiff to a furnace aloft. Eff you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 No reason to NOT believe the NAM thermal profiles this close in unless they are off their rocker as compared to other guidance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Where will it stay all snow? NH Border or north of 495/Rt2? It's gonna be around there I think...probably close to a LWM-ORH line...it may creep above that line, but if it does, I think it won't last that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Do tell................. Well, fwiw.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 No reason to NOT believe the NAM thermal profiles this close in unless they are off their rocker as compared to other guidance. They were definitely somewhat warmer than the RGEM....and the previous 12z NAM. I usually want to see agreement with other short term models and also some consistency before using the NAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Very nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 It's warmer aloft where you are too...but it just happens at 750mb vs 850...you are getting sandblasted with pellets on the NAM run for several hours. That'll wash out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 That'll wash out Just hope the NAM is off it's rocker (which it very well might be)...because 2C at 750mb isn't "washing out"...lol. If it was 0.5C, then yeah, maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Just hope the NAM is off it's rocker (which it very well might be)...because 2C at 750mb isn't "washing out"...lol. If it was 0.5C, then yeah, maybe. Well what i meant was on the NAM it would wash out in model chaos. I mean the Euro was basically 0-0.5C for the entire event..which is why I am steadfast it won't mix for 99% of the event..unless there's some weird lull in precip or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Thanks man, Its funny how this one has crept up over the last day Yeah, ticking north the last 24 hours with the precip shield. Nice trends for you guys SE of the mountains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Just hope the NAM is off it's rocker (which it very well might be)...because 2C at 750mb isn't "washing out"...lol. If it was 0.5C, then yeah, maybe. Though at 15z Saturday - there's a lot of QPF that falls and it's still <0c in the column around Hartford. Looks like that spike comes in an hour or 2 later around 750mb. I feel confident that almost all of CT gets a several hour (at least) icy mix period with pingers and ZR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Well what i meant was on the NAM it would wash out in model chaos. I mean the Euro was basically 0-0.5C for the entire event..which is why I am steadfast it won't mix for 99% of the event..unless there's some weird lull in precip or something A lull or at least a break in intensity may happen after the front end too. You are going to mix regardless, but you'll get a decent dumping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 euro/rgem has been steadfast and has increased front end snow and expanded qpf areal coverage QPF queens worry about that stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Well what i meant was on the NAM it would wash out in model chaos. I mean the Euro was basically 0-0.5C for the entire event..which is why I am steadfast it won't mix for 99% of the event..unless there's some weird lull in precip or something I think you are severely under-estimating the amoutn of mixing...just embrace the sleet. You've never been one to shy away from it. You know how easy it sleets there. There will still be plenty of snow on the front and back end and the sleet will help your pack last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I think you are severely under-estimating the amoutn of mixing...just embrace the sleet. You've never been one to shy away from it. You know how easy it sleets there. There will still be plenty of snow on the front and back end and the sleet will help your pack last. Fish is my favorite dish Eric Fisher @ericfisher 12m 12 minutes ago Latest thoughts on what will be falling from the sky tomorrow. Begins 4-7a from south to north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR Airglow Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Though at 15z Saturday - there's a lot of QPF that falls and it's still <0c in the column around Hartford. Looks like that spike comes in an hour or 2 later around 750mb. I feel confident that almost all of CT gets a several hour (at least) icy mix period with pingers and ZR. I'm drawing the mix line basically 10 miles north of 84 west of BDL to 10 miles west of 91 basically, anywhere SE of that mixes I think. NW hills might ping for a little while, but I'm pretty confident in 90%+ snow up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Yeah, ticking north the last 24 hours with the precip shield. Nice trends for you guys SE of the mountains. Will be curious to see where the RGEM is at 18Z, My guess is it may ramp up some as everything else has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxsniss Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 18z NAM definitely red flag for Boston metro But as pointed out, NAM and GFS are warmest guidance vs. Euro / RGEM 18z RGEM will be informative imo, if this warming trend vs. 12z continues then maybe NAM is onto something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 MPM will Eeyore his way to 6" on the NAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmanmitch Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Nice hit for Berkshires on the 18z NAM. Looks like a widespread 6"+ event here, and now that we're within 24 hours, the NAM has more credibility. Me likey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Well what i meant was on the NAM it would wash out in model chaos. I mean the Euro was basically 0-0.5C for the entire event..which is why I am steadfast it won't mix for 99% of the event..unless there's some weird lull in precip or something You are going to mix. You are going to get a good dump of 5"+ of snow. Those two things are a given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 MPM will Eeyore his way to 6" on the NAM. He did that on the Euro....NAM was probably closer to 8-10 And there's a 100% chance he will complain no matter which solution verifies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Just hope the NAM is off it's rocker (which it very well might be)...because 2C at 750mb isn't "washing out"...lol. If it was 0.5C, then yeah, maybe. Maybe I don't know how to read a skew T, but i see one 3-hour frame that shows that at hr 24, which is also in between the front-end dump and the back-end tail. And that's for my location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 GFS is such a piece of cow sh*t. From a whiff to a furnace aloft. Eff you. Lmao...he's jumped!! Let it out...it feels good to do that!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 You are going to mix. You are going to get a good dump of 5"+ of snow. Those two things are a given. Not if the Euro is right..If it's not..then i will. No harm no foul either way. Congrats everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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