CoastalWx Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 This one's a tough one...the thermal profile is so marginal for several hours...it's not like when we say "during the 2 hour period when it changes over, there's amazing dynamics so an extra 2 hours of S+ could really change the outcome before it flips to sleet"....in this case, we are talking about a static marginal profile for about 4 or 5 hours at the warmest point before it flips back to snow...not a huge WAA punch and then a dryslot. We actually have the mid-level centers to our southeast which is more of an advantage. It's difficult to predict dynamics because you have to remember the models try and account for this. So you are really guessing whether the model has underestimated it or overestimated it. We have another round of models at 00z to help clear up the picture a little more....but my guess is there will be a lot of nowcasting for this one. That's what I am afraid of and have the task of trying to communicate. Can't nowcast in this field...lol. Well aviation I mean. I wish we had euro soundings. Those sick Brit bastards and their data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I don't think there is a single model that gives you only 2-3" of snow. I'm actually thinking 4-6" out here now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I'm also taking into account these slight ticks to the NW which continue to warm 850-800 ever so slightly. That has not stopped really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Remember HVN won't get anywhere near 9 not playing games Kev, just asking what he thinks. I see a 6 pack front end alone just off the coast but I could be very wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Euro is actually more robust in SSNE front end than I imagined, who needs your stinkin CCB, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 not playing games Kev, just asking what he thinks. I see a 6 pack front end alone just off the coast but I could be very wrong.Thats what I meant. You get a quick 4-6 front and 1-3 on back .. It could bust high if you forecast low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Final call. I'm going snowier because I can. If you disagree, suck it. DXR: 9" BDR: 8" HVN: 7" BDL: 8 IJD: 6" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Looking at the euro now, not as warm as I thought aloft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Looking at the euro now, not as warm as I thought aloft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Critical thicknesses aloft sort of follow the 850 0C line, but only just a bit NW of the 0C isotherm. Not way NW like you'd see in a SWFE. If that is right, I have a hard time seeing a prolonged taint from BDL-BED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 There have been like three storms in that past year where everyone is talking about dynamics overpowering and it doesn't, Thanksgiving was one of them. It helped for some of us Actually, I have no idea if it was dynamic cooling or not that bombed my area that day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 you guys have all seen this show, relax ,enjoy, we know where this is heading, congrats to anyone who jacks, its the start peeps, lets do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Euro is actually more robust in SSNE front end than I imagined, who needs your stinkin CCB, lol 3-6 most locations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 This is a very weird storm. Missing classic ingredients, fast mover, yet still producing a decent mod thump Anyone have an event that is similar in the last 10 years or so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 3-6 most locations? nice, thumpidity dumpity. Thumper the dumper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 This is a very weird storm. Missing classic ingredients, fast mover, yet still producing a decent mod thump Anyone have an event that is similar in the last 10 years or so? I will get yelled at but yea a couple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I will get yelled at but yea a couple Let me guess... Jan 1978, Dec 2005...something in 1682 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Let me guess... Jan 1978, Dec 2005...something in 1682 since you got attitude, nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Euro would be pretty sick for NE Ma. Just finally taking a peek. Mid levels look great for banding here. This is an extremely difficult forecast with this weird layer of warm air aloft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted January 23, 2015 Author Share Posted January 23, 2015 i dont see much at all here if any im starting to think i pull off 6 to 8 of mashed Critical thicknesses aloft sort of follow the 850 0C line, but only just a bit NW of the 0C isotherm. Not way NW like you'd see in a SWFE. If that is right, I have a hard time seeing a prolonged taint from BDL-BED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toller65 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Would it be possible to provide the same output for the period through 12Z 25Jan2015? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 you guys have all seen this show, relax ,enjoy, we know where this is heading, congrats to anyone who jacks, its the start peeps, lets do this. Woohoo! 1-2", here I come. I may top the biggest snowstorm I've had this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Woohoo! 1-2", here I come. I may top the biggest snowstorm I've had this season. Ok MPM no model except the GFS gives you that but you ride that horsey Mr Debra all day all night my man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Euro would be pretty sick for NE Ma. Just finally taking a peek. Mid levels look great for banding here. This is an extremely difficult forecast with this weird layer of warm air aloft Front ender is sick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Ok MPM no model except the GFS gives you that but you ride that horsey Mr Debra all day all night my man 12z NAM gave me 2" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Critical thicknesses aloft sort of follow the 850 0C line, but only just a bit NW of the 0C isotherm. Not way NW like you'd see in a SWFE. If that is right, I have a hard time seeing a prolonged taint from BDL-BED. Just looking at critical thicknesses now. Taint might literally tickle Ray's fanny at it's furthest extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowMan Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Ok MPM no model except the GFS gives you that but you ride that horsey Mr Debra all day all night my man Serious side pipe going in that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Would it be possible to provide the same output for the period through 12Z 25Jan2015? thanks Not euro but GFS has over 20 OTG for you by day ten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 12z NAM gave me 2" bufkit gave EWB 3.5 how the heck are you 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonWX Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I'm liking 5 to 9 anywhere north and or west of Boston to the Worcester area at this point. I think taint will limit it to a bit less than that here but still a decent bust potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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