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Clipper snow disco and OBS Wednesday 1/21/2015


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Just an observation but there are clear skies here and the ground is getting wet with fog developing zero wind with a temp of 30 a few things:

 

1.  Could be icy spots

 

2.  Plenty of low level moisture for an incoming storm for higher precipitation amounts as more cold air works in tomorrow.

 

I am truly thinking that there is some kind of convergence right along the Mason Dixon line 20-30 miles north and south of it tomorrow into Central New Jersey ..... kind of like a squeeze play with cold air pressing in from the NNW and milder air pressing in from the SSW or south.  It has a early February flavor out there tonight!!!

 

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Just an observation but there are clear skies here and the ground is getting wet with fog developing zero wind with a temp of 30 a few things:

1. Could be icy spots

2. Plenty of low level moisture for an incoming storm for higher precipitation amounts as more cold air works in tomorrow.

I am truly thinking that there is some kind of convergence right along the Mason Dixon line 20-30 miles north and south of it tomorrow into Central New Jersey ..... kind of like a squeeze play with cold air pressing in from the NNW and milder air pressing in from the SSW or south. It has a early February flavor out there tonight!!!

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Hey Kevin. It's Jbat from the old LWB days. I can confirm your first point. My whole driveway out here in Montco is already iced over. I almost did a full wipeout walking my dog.

I also agree on the convergence zone idea. This has the feel that someone (south Jersey?) is going to over perform tomorrow.

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If you guys would take a second to stop bashing Mt. Holly, you would realize WWA's got issued for SJ about 10 minutes ago, Philly and neighboring areas should follow soon.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY.

A PERIOD OF ACCUMULATING SNOW IS EXPECTED ACROSS MUCH OF THE

REGION WEDNESDAY AND WEDNESDAY NIGHT. THERE SHOULD BE SOME MIXED

PRECIPITATION FOR A TIME MAINLY SOUTH AND EAST OF PHILADELPHIA.

THE SNOW COULD LEAD TO SLIPPERY TRAVEL WHICH MAY ADVERSELY AFFECT

THE WEDNESDAY EVENING COMMUTE. AMOUNTS ARE EXPECTED TO REMAIN

BELOW ADVISORY CRITERIA.

They don't buy it...

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.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY.

A PERIOD OF ACCUMULATING SNOW IS EXPECTED ACROSS MUCH OF THE

REGION WEDNESDAY AND WEDNESDAY NIGHT. THERE SHOULD BE SOME MIXED

PRECIPITATION FOR A TIME MAINLY SOUTH AND EAST OF PHILADELPHIA.

THE SNOW COULD LEAD TO SLIPPERY TRAVEL WHICH MAY ADVERSELY AFFECT

THE WEDNESDAY EVENING COMMUTE. AMOUNTS ARE EXPECTED TO REMAIN

BELOW ADVISORY CRITERIA.

They don't buy it...

I am sorry, what are they not buying???

From 1014 update:

SHORT TERM /6 AM WEDNESDAY MORNING THROUGH 6 PM WEDNESDAY/...

10 PM UPDATE...THE WINTER WEATHER ADVISORIES HAVE BEEN EXPANDED

EASTWARD TO INCLUDE THE DELMARVA AND SOUTHERN NJ. A FIRST GLANCE

AT THE 00Z NAM SHOWS A SWATCH OF HIGHER QPF BETWEEN ONE- THIRD AND

TWO-THIRDS OF AN INCH OVER EXTREME SOUTHEAST PA, THE DELMARVA

(EXCEPT FOR SUSSEX, DE WHERE RAIN WOULD CUT DOWN ON TOTALS) AND

SOUTHERN NJ WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING. THE NAM IS

PROBABLY TOO ROBUST WITH THE OMEGA/QPF AND MAY BE TOO FAR WEST BUT

THE LAST COUPLE OF RUNS HAS BEEN CONSISTENT WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR

ENHANCED FRONTOGENETICAL LIFT ON THE NW SIDE OF THE DEVELOPING

COASTAL LOW AS ENERGY IS BEING TRANSFERRED TO THE SECONDARY

SYSTEM. THE STEADIEST AND HEAVIEST SNOW MAY FALL SOMETIME DURING

THE 3 PM - 9 PM PERIOD, WHICH COINCIDES WITH THE AFTERNOON/EVENING

COMMUTE. SNOWFALL TOTALS BETWEEN 2-4 INCHES ARE FORECAST BUT STILL

CANNOT RULE OUT HIGHER AMOUNTS IF THE BEST MESOSCALE BANDING FORMS

INLAND.

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I am sorry, what are they not buying???

From 1014 update:

SHORT TERM /6 AM WEDNESDAY MORNING THROUGH 6 PM WEDNESDAY/...

10 PM UPDATE...THE WINTER WEATHER ADVISORIES HAVE BEEN EXPANDED

EASTWARD TO INCLUDE THE DELMARVA AND SOUTHERN NJ. A FIRST GLANCE

AT THE 00Z NAM SHOWS A SWATCH OF HIGHER QPF BETWEEN ONE- THIRD AND

TWO-THIRDS OF AN INCH OVER EXTREME SOUTHEAST PA, THE DELMARVA

(EXCEPT FOR SUSSEX, DE WHERE RAIN WOULD CUT DOWN ON TOTALS) AND

SOUTHERN NJ WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING. THE NAM IS

PROBABLY TOO ROBUST WITH THE OMEGA/QPF AND MAY BE TOO FAR WEST BUT

THE LAST COUPLE OF RUNS HAS BEEN CONSISTENT WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR

ENHANCED FRONTOGENETICAL LIFT ON THE NW SIDE OF THE DEVELOPING

COASTAL LOW AS ENERGY IS BEING TRANSFERRED TO THE SECONDARY

SYSTEM. THE STEADIEST AND HEAVIEST SNOW MAY FALL SOMETIME DURING

THE 3 PM - 9 PM PERIOD, WHICH COINCIDES WITH THE AFTERNOON/EVENING

COMMUTE. SNOWFALL TOTALS BETWEEN 2-4 INCHES ARE FORECAST BUT STILL

CANNOT RULE OUT HIGHER AMOUNTS IF THE BEST MESOSCALE BANDING FORMS

INLAND.

 

I didn't see that when I looked... It's strange they are leaving out NW Burlington and the philly area for the WWAs if they are forecasting 2-4...

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I wasn't bashing. Just pointing out that they're probably going to be cautious because they admittedly blew a forecast with really tragic consequences. They're usually excellent

No one, except for one run, of one single model got that right. People are adults, they chose to drive fast in adverse conditions. I'm a firefighter, I dealt with it. Enough already, if you don't have anything to add other then bashing Mt. Holly, which I don't give a **** what you say, that's what you're doing, stop posting. And you guys wonder why the hell they don't post here that much. Weenies like you drive them the hell away...
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Still a lot of model variance with this. This has to be one of more inconsistently modeled events in a long time. 

 

Larger spread than usual for a clipper for sure. It seems that most of our daytime snow will come from that blossoming area of precipitation over WV and western PA as opposed to a defined area of precipitation which we watch march across the upper Midwest.

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