hawkeye_wx Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 The sad part about the nor'easter is the NYC "bust" is still bigger than anything my area has seen in years. A certain FB post by a popular met bashing TWC is just embarrassing and so unprofessional. I don't know how it would be possible to look any worse at this point. Oh yeah, he was savaging TWC big time largely due to their "incompetent" lower snow totals for the NYC/NJ area. More than that, the guy can be a colossal d**k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Anyone have NYC's total? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baum Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Things got real ugly in the NYC and Philly forums last night when the 0Z NAM gave the confirmation of bust. Hopefully, AKiNG popped in to pass along condolences and soothe the pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Anyone have NYC's total?11.0" at LGA, 8.6" at JFK and 7.8" in Central Park as of 7AM local time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 The sad part about the nor'easter is the NYC "bust" is still bigger than anything my area has seen in years. Oh yeah, he was savaging TWC big time largely due to their "incompetent" lower snow totals for the NYC/NJ area. More than that, the guy can be a colossal d**k. Difficult for me to have any respect for someone with his complete lack of professionalism. Long, profanity laden facebook posts are not exactly what I would be spending my money on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Monday morning quarterbacking here but the RGEM should've been a warning sign. From what people over there have said, it's usually a respectable model for northeast storms and it not going all-in perhaps should've caused more concern. call me crazy, but I like the rgem for short term trends on a storm. I think it does really well with rain/snow line and picking up last minute storm deviations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chitown Storm Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Early estimates coming in show the shutdown cost the EC cities over $1 billion. I can only imagine the ripple effect this will have on future forecasts of major storms. The NWS has an incredibly tough job, but no one gives much credit when things go as forecasted. People are quick to lash out when they bust however. That's rough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Yesterday's 1/26 18z 4km NAM. Ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 The Euro was wrong about NYC, but the big 20+" totals weren't far to the east. There is a lot of pressure on the mets in that area. 20 million people are following their forecasts, while around here it's 1/100th of that. If our mets blow a snow forecast for Cedar Rapids, big whoop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbertfly Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 yeah the kicker here was that NYC was included in that 80 mile difference....if it were in the plains or the mountains (so to speak)....the implications wouldn't have been as "nasty" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I imagine its next to impossible because most storms have lake effect on the backside, & there is no distinction of what is what in the record books Buf NWS agreed with you. Got this message from them. Kind of sucks though as it would be fun to separate the two. We rarely if ever receive lake effect from synoptic systems off of Lake Erie, but quite a bit off of Ontario. "Even with months of research looking back through the historical data, it's just not possible to separate lake effect from synoptic snowfall events. Even in synoptic events, there is often lake enhancement or even pure lake effect towards the end of the event, so it's not completely valid to call those events just synoptic." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I'm pretty sure TWC was talking lower numbers the whole time, really nailed it with this storm. I have to admit I like their expert forecasters quite a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I saw Tom Niziol talk at the Ohio Severe Weather Conference once. I think one of the people who was going to be a presenter about severe weather cancelled, so they brought in Niziol from Buffalo to talk about Buffalo's worst storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelakeroy Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Okay so let look at yesterdays HECS ... now how many times do you hear the NE group talk about a +PNA,/-AO/-NAO combo for there HECS to occur ... hmmmm ... lets look at the current teleconnectors: PNA is neutral (actually slightly -)/AO is +2/NAO is +1. So according to these teleconnections it should have been a Torch yesterday in Boston and not Blizzard. It just goes to show that teleconnections while useful are not everything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 One of the worst failures I can remember from the Euro in regards to the EC storm. If I lived in Philly/NYC I would have felt pretty comfortable knowing the Euro had my back up until late this evening. Talk about a kick in the crotch. This was forecasted by Upton in the afternoon. This was also said by Upton "CRIPPLING AND POTENTIALLY HISTORIC BLIZZARD INTO TUESDAY...ACCUMULATIONS...20 TO 30 INCHES WITH LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS...ESPECIALLY ACROSS LONG ISLAND AND CONNECTICUT. * SNOWFALL RATES...2 TO 4 INCHES PER HOUR LATE TONIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING. " In the end, I ended up with 10 inches which is fine by me but of course I would have loved to get a shutdown blizzard. I was getting worried when the other models weren't jumping on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerStateWX Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 when snowluvr2 starts posting models have held serve or nudged south a bit I'll then boom a 70 yard punt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Here is a complaint for you guys, I hate people who punt storms early and then sit in the thread to remind you they punted every model run. The next person that punts a storm should he banned from posting in said storm thread because no one cares to know you punted a storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathergy Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Here is a complaint for you guys, I hate people who punt storms early and then sit in the thread to remind you they punted every model run. The next person that punts a storm should he banned from posting in said storm thread because no one cares to know you punted a storm.This. +1Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Punt, zzzz, dab and turd was funny two years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Here is a complaint for you guys, I hate people who punt storms early and then sit in the thread to remind you they punted every model run. The next person that punts a storm should he banned from posting in said storm thread because no one cares to know you punted a storm.you should co-mod with Hoosier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 you should co-mod with Hoosier. Don't you agree that it fills up threads with nonsense which causes people to retort back saying It is nonsense. I mean just reading that thread today, it was filled with foolish shortsighted posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Punt, zzzz, dab and turd was funny two years ago. I know right....so 2012. Now the kids use words like 'garbage run', and 'hot mess'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 you should co-mod with Hoosier. dear god, Stebo is the mall cop of the subforum....can't imagine giving him a real gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Don't you agree that it fills up threads with nonsense which causes people to retort back saying It is nonsense. I mean just reading that thread today, it was filled with foolish shortsighted posts.Punting today is silly. If you're punting this storm, then don't continue to post about it. I agree with dmc that zzz, punt, lol, and dab really add nothing to the conversation and should be kept in Banter. My fav's for analysis are Buckeye, Powerball, OHweather, yourself, Chicago Storm (when he's invested) Alek (when he's being serious), Whitelakeroy... and some GREAT mets we didn't use to have. I mosty do obs and pics because I really don't get into dissecting models, in a storm thread, it's about analysis and forecasting. edit: and Hoosier is damn good too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Punting today is silly. If you're punting this storm, then don't continue to post about it. I agree with dmc that zzz, punt, lol, and dab really add nothing to the conversation and should be kept in Banter. My fav's for analysis are Buckeye, Powerball, OHweather, yourself, Chicago Storm (when he's invested) Alek (when he's being serious), Whitelakeroy... and some GREAT mets we didn't use to have. I mosty do obs and pics because I really don't get into dissecting models, in a storm thread, it's about analysis and forecasting. seriously thanks, but even I don't make my own top 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 seriously thanks, but even I don't make my own top 20.it's your presentation then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 So, is it correct to say that there has yet to be a single widespread synoptic winter storm ANYWHERE east of the Mississippi this winter, (outside of this recent new england event)? I guess you have to define winter storm but to me that would be widespread 6" + amounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 So, is it correct to say that there has yet to be a single widespread synoptic winter storm ANYWHERE east of the Mississippi this winter, (outside of this recent new england event)? I guess you have to define winter storm but to me that would be widespread 6" + amounts. Toronto got in on that one retrograding storm several weeks ago (dumped 6-10").Otherwise, unless you count that clipper earlier this month that hit hawkeye and cyclone or the late November/early December storms that hit Northern WI/Northern MI, no... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 So, is it correct to say that there has yet to be a single widespread synoptic winter storm ANYWHERE east of the Mississippi this winter, (outside of this recent new england event)? I guess you have to define winter storm but to me that would be widespread 6" + amounts. a thread created for a specific event. threads go ot all the time, but to just come in a thread to poop on it is silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 dear god, Stebo is the mall cop of the subforum....can't imagine giving him a real gun. You mock me yet agree with what I say... that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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