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Winter 2014-2015 Pattern Discussion Thread III


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There's something you don't see everyday:attachicon.gifNCPE_phase_21m_small.gif

Notice where the MJO was during the Fab 2nd half of Feb: low amp and mainly within the circle. So, this was still another instance of a lengthy very cold period occurring when the MJO was mainly within the circle and gives further evidence when added to my extensive ATL day by day Jan analysis that being within or near the circle (especially left side) is where one should want to be to have the best shot at a cold pattern as well as enhanced wintry precip chances in the SE US at least in Jan & probably also in Dec. & Feb.

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euro weeklies just said get ready for cold.......

 

Late March and Early April cold doesn't excite me.  That said the Euro Weeklies are usually money so it will more likely than not come to fruition.

 

edit: combine the weeklies with a diving AO and rising PNA and it spells a cold spell towards the end of the month.....

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Notice where the MJO was during the Fab 2nd half of Feb: low amp and mainly within the circle. So, this was still another instance of a lengthy very cold period occurring when the MJO was mainly within the circle and gives further evidence when added to my extensive ATL day by day Jan analysis that being within or near the circle (especially left side) is where one should want to be to have the best shot at a cold pattern as well as enhanced wintry precip chances in the SE US at least in Jan & probably also in Dec. & Feb.

Do you have access to maps from the 80s , when we have good late March snows on the reg!? Could you come up with how the polar vortex and or 500 MB pattern right before these snowstorms, and maybe go with dates later than March 20th?
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Do you have access to maps from the 80s , when we have good late March snows on the reg!? Could you come up with how the polar vortex and or 500 MB pattern right before these snowstorms, and maybe go with dates later than March 20th?

Apples to oranges. The pole was closer to us back then. But due to continental driftion, geomagnetronical forces, and innerplanitarial magmonic displacancy, it has moved farther away. It was a infortunate and multiful plentitude of concurrental events that have transpirated us to this state of positionness.

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Apples to oranges. The pole was closer to us back then. But due to continental driftion, geomagnetronical forces, and innerplanitarial magmonic displacancy, it has moved farther away. It was a infortunate and multiful plentitude of concurrental events that have transpirated us to this state of positionness.

 

Isn't it nocturnally driven too?

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Apples to oranges. The pole was closer to us back then. But due to continental driftion, geomagnetronical forces, and innerplanitarial magmonic displacancy, it has moved farther away. It was a infortunate and multiful plentitude of concurrental events that have transpirated us to this state of positionness.

A week in the 70s, I will have to leave work early, to stop the gridlock traffic, due to a dusting of pollen on the roads! :(
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Where you are getting them? On WxBell, the latest run was on the 5th of March, and they don't look cold.

Yes, they are very cold day 10+. They are as cold as they showed for mid Feb, departure wise. But avg temps are +10, atleast for mid/late March compared to mid Feb.

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Yes, they are very cold day 10+. They are as cold as they showed for mid Feb, departure wise. But avg temps are +10, atleast for mid/late March compared to mid Feb.

We don't need all-time record cold, just about 25 degrees below normal highs, gets most to upper 30s, ripe for a good paste job! But will travel to the mtns for a chase! Seen about 1" of snow, and that includes Nov 1st! :(
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Do you have access to maps from the 80s , when we have good late March snows on the reg!? Could you come up with how the polar vortex and or 500 MB pattern right before these snowstorms, and maybe go with dates later than March 20th?

 

 Mack,

  Have at it and give us a report on your findings when you're done:

 

 http://docs.lib.noaa.gov/rescue/dwm/data_rescue_daily_weather_maps.html

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and doritos in the grab bag were transparent in the front, so you get the ones with the most seasoning :cry:

To sum up the rest of the week in the SE...

Warm, Rain, Wedge...

lather rinse repeat

Ugh!! What the heck is going on in here? You people have seriously lost it.

Rewriting the weather dictionary with new meteor"illogical" terms wont save this dumpster fire of a winter. Nor will moving the poles, firing off volcanoes, bulldozing the apps or what ever other disaster you can dream up.

Models be damned....it will not get cold again.

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Ugh!! What the heck is going on in here? You people have seriously lost it.

Rewriting the weather dictionary with new meteor"illogical" terms wont save this dumpster fire of a winter. Nor will moving the poles, firing off volcanoes, bulldozing the apps or what ever other disaster you can dream up.

Models be damned....it will not get cold again.

 

Can't lost what you never had... and you can't say it won't get cold again this season. A volcano could erupt and block out the sun :)

 

Also depends on what your definition of cold is. mid to uppers 30's in late march with a CAD is cold to me, especially when I'm ready to plant lettuce and onions which should have already been planted.

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March of 1983, and March of 1993 prove we can get big snow events this late in winter. April 1987 proves we can get a major winter storm early in that month too. Birmingham AL got 9 inches of snow in early April that year, with snow measured in feet in the NC mountains.

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Can't lost what you never had... and you can't say it won't get cold again this season. A volcano could erupt and block out the sun :)

Also depends on what your definition of cold is. mid to uppers 30's in late march with a CAD is cold to me, especially when I'm ready to plant lettuce and onions which should have already been planted.

when do you plant? Sounds really early.
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