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We're never going to be able to track a storm in from 10 days out.  It'll probably show up for real inside 4-5 days, if it shows up.

 

I hope we get one to show up before the end of this month. It is frustrating to read about how good the pattern looks going into the next two weeks but not have a real storm to track, or to have something good show up 10 days out only to go away the next day.

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I hope we get one to show up before the end of this month. It is frustrating to read about how good the pattern looks going into the next two weeks but not have a real storm to track, or to have something good show up 10 days out only to go away the next day.

Just to be clear on one point, the next 7 days or so are not going to feature a good pattern for a winter storm. After that, things look better. But you shouldn't get your hopes up on a specific threat in the 7+ day out time frame. If we get the pattern show on the ensembles, I will bet that you will have something to get your hopes up about in a week or so from now.

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Nobody uses the 540 line anymore. Soundings are best, followed by 850 and surface temperatures, equaled by the low-level thicknesses (1000-850 and 850-700).

 

I use the 540 line when SFC temps are below freezing and 850's are there. If you have 850's and SFC but 540 line is north of you 9 times out of 10 it will be sleet.  Also it comes in really handy to determine the overall heavy axis of snow when a ULL rolls through. When you see that 540 line circle snow is going to fall and you know you have a cold enough core. Either way you have to use all of it together as most of the time you need all of them in tandem. 

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I use the 540 line when SFC temps are below freezing and 850's are there. If you have 850's and SFC but 540 line is north of you 9 times out of 10 it will be sleet.  Also it comes in really handy to determine the overall heavy axis of snow when a ULL rolls through. When you see that 540 line circle snow is going to fall and you know you have a cold enough core. Either way you have to use all of it together as most of the time you need all of them in tandem.

Then use the low-level thicknesses or soundings. That would be a better way to get a good picture of what's going to go on.
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It looks like RDU is averaging somewhere around -3 degrees so far for January. Looking at the next 7 days forecast we should at least average normal if not slightly below. So basically we will go through the first three weeks of January, in a crappy pattern, averaging well below normal.   

 

Below normal temps and above average precip, but still no snow. Hopefully, things will change and we'll get the right mix soon.

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It looks like RDU is averaging somewhere around -3 degrees so far for January. Looking at the next 7 days forecast we should at least average normal if not slightly below. So basically we will go through the first three weeks of January, in a crappy pattern, averaging well below normal.   

CAE is at -1.5. Our highest temp was 73 on the 4th and lowest was 17 on the 8th.   :D   

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I wonder when people are going to accept the fact that we won't have any major winter storms in the Se this year. .. we been chasing a pattern change this whole winter but keeps getting pushed back.. it's the middle of January we are running out of time.. if you look on the models there is a low over the great lakes region almost the entire run it goes away but comes right back... other than western nc and people in the mountains I think everyone else is doomed when it comes to a winter storm this year...

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I wonder when people are going to accept the fact that we won't have any major winter storms in the Se this year. .. we been chasing a pattern change this whole winter but keeps getting pushed back.. it's the middle of January we are running out of time.. if you look on the models there is a low over the great lakes region almost the entire run it goes away but comes right back... other than western nc and people in the mountains I think everyone else is doomed when it comes to a winter storm this year...

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Maybe when winter is actually over in March. Still too early to make a prediction like that.

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2011-2012 was a total stinkfest. If Jan. was like that I would be worried. I remember multiple times going out to lunch with my friend who is from Australia and eating outside during that winter. There has been maybe one or two days this winter that I've even contemplated eating outside for lunch during work. Not scientific but that's how I judge a truly "bad" winter. It sucks we have no snow but at least we have real chances....which is more than I can say for that winter. 

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Maybe when winter is actually over in March. Still too early to make a prediction like that.

 

No it's not.  It's not going to snow in the SE.  It's not going to snow in the SE.  It's not going to snow in the SE.  It's not going to snow in the SE.  Why?  Because.  Just because.

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2011-2012 was a total stinkfest. If Jan. was like that I would be worried. I remember multiple times going out to lunch with my friend who is from Australia and eating outside during that winter. There has been maybe one or two days this winter that I've even contemplated eating outside for lunch during work. Not scientific but that's how I judge a truly "bad" winter. It sucks we have no snow but at least we have real chances....which is more than I can say for that winter. 

Yepp... The only saving grace that winter was really low heating bills and our epic chase. 

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