Webberweather53 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Ah, congrats to Knoxville as well. Although I'd imagine the flakes cause more of a stir in Manteo than Knoxville. Flakes are flakes though. Had no idea. I bet no one was up for that! Me neither. Raleigh isn't shutout any longer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I would have relied on the euro too. The GFS is essentially unproven so far. That said, they hung onto those high totals for a long time. It looks like using radar, obs, satellite, etc., they would have been able to get a sense of which model was most likely to be correct. But the RGEM/UK agreed with the GFS, although the RGEM was a little high, it wasn't Euro high though. Looking back at yesterdays 12z models it looks like GFS and UK were fairly close to what happened. I ride the RGEM inside 36 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Did you really go spend time to look at that up? LOL. For that event we were talking about I was right, we got a dusting, LOL. You're missing my point. You were writing off all of last winter on Jan 20th and we got smashed in Feb. You do this every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Me neither. Raleigh isn't shutout any longer... Still a shutout with a trace of snow, has to be atleast .1" of snow for it not to be considered a shutout. Spring is coming fast, only 4 more weeks till March 1st with avg high of 60F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 The shutout still holds firm here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpiemaniac Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Me neither. Raleigh isn't shutout any longer... I checked the Raleigh traffic cameras just now and didn't see a dusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowNiner Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Me neither. Raleigh isn't shutout any longer... Charlotte's still pitching a shut out. Yes!! (pumps fist) Yeah stinks for NYC, but at the same time. I would LOVE 7 inches of snow. So yeah, don't feel too bad for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webberweather53 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I checked the Raleigh traffic cameras just now and didn't see a dusting. Well, it happened several hours ago, and if anything did accumulate it melted several hours ago, it is a trace of snow however... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Wait, 2002-03 sucked? Yeah, ok, let's just completely ignore the historic storm in December, the 1.5 of pure sleet (~5 inches of snow liquid equivalent), the other lighter evens & the snow at the end of March... It really doesn't cement what you're saying, and as usual you're blowing things entirely out of proportion... How can I be blowing things out of proportion, it's a been a complete skunk, not event close to a winter event here. We have had no snow not even sniffed snow, this is nothing like 05. The analog patterns for Feb +ENSO/+PDO that have been shown ain't happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 You're missing my point. You were writing off all of last winter on Jan 20th and we got smashed in Feb. You do this every year. 3 out of the past 4 winters have been skunks, there is a reason I sound like this all the time. Serenity now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isopycnic Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Well, it happened several hours ago, and if anything did accumulate it melted several hours ago, it is a trace of snow however...I'm pretty sure Raleigh saw only a few token flakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webberweather53 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 The shutout still holds firm here. No, Greensboro also isn't shutout, a trace of snow was recorded on the 20th of December... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webberweather53 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I'm pretty sure Raleigh saw only a few token flakes. It's called a trace of snow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isopycnic Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 It's called a trace of snow...BTW, Raleigh (RDU) saw a "T" of snow on Dec 20th. No accumulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 No, Greensboro also isn't shutout, a trace of snow was recorded on the 20th of December... No accumulation. Still a shutout to me. We have had zero winters in recorded history with no accumulating snow, IIRC, yet here we are. We'll probably get something next month, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webberweather53 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 How can I be blowing things out of proportion, it's a been a complete skunk, not event close to a winter event here. We have had no snow not even sniffed snow, this is nothing like 05. The analog patterns for Feb +ENSO/+PDO that have been shown ain't happening. You have been blowing things out of proportion since mid-late December how this winter has sucked & it also looks like you pulled the same exact crap last year. Claiming that the analogs are somehow entirely bogus when in fact the month of February hasn't even started yet isn't a smart move... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted January 27, 2015 Author Share Posted January 27, 2015 How can I be blowing things out of proportion, it's a been a complete skunk, not event close to a winter event here. We have had no snow not even sniffed snow, this is nothing like 05. The analog patterns for Feb +ENSO/+PDO that have been shown ain't happening.Irmo sc got 6" on Nov 1st, that was kind of skunky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isopycnic Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 No accumulation. Still a shutout to me. We have had zero winters in recorded history with no accumulating snow, IIRC, yet here we are. We'll probably get something next month, though.N and W of Durham saw ~0.2" from that system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webberweather53 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 No accumulation. Still a shutout to me. We have had zero winters in recorded history with no accumulating snow, IIRC, yet here we are. We'll probably get something next month, though. A trace isn't technically 0, however, thus it's technically not a shutout regardless of what you may deem as such... BTW, Raleigh (RDU) saw a "T" of snow on Dec 20th. No accumulation. Thanks, I saw that, too bad I was in Fayetteville for that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullCityWx Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 If we're talking in a historical, record keeping sense then a trace is not a shut out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookout Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 So it looks like DT got schooled by Carl Parker. With DT's large following, I am guessing he did more to help TWC's ratings than most advertising campaign's they could have run. lol It seems to me DT is not only sucking moose balls, but has so many in his mouth and throat he's literally choking on them this morning. Arrogance is usually only acceptable when you are right. Many will turn on him over this huge bust, and rightfully so. how much was he forecasting? I suppose he was cursing everyone at some point too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Had a dusting on the cars this morning. Looks like Vance County to the north was a good place to be and they saw some measurable snow. I didn't expect anyone around here to get even that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowNiner Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 If we're talking in a historical, record keeping sense then a trace is not a shut out. Yeah, in 2011-2012 we didn't get a shutout due to a "T", furries one day. I have a feeling that'll probably happen again this winter. So far though, we're awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webberweather53 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 If we're talking in a historical, record keeping sense then a trace is not a shut out. Yep, looks like a few snow showers have popped up over the western piedmont, w/ flurries being reported west of Gastonia in Cleveland county... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalicwx366 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 how much was he forecasting? I suppose he was cursing everyone at some point too?You haven't seen? He was extremely harsh on TWC yesterday. They were right in the end. https://m.facebook.com/WxRisk?refsrc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FWxRisk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullCityWx Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Yep, looks like a few snow showers have popped up over the western piedmont, w/ flurries being reported west of Gastonia in Cleveland county... Huh...wonder if I should go chase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalicwx366 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Had a dusting on the cars this morning. Looks like Vance County to the north was a good place to be and they saw some measurable snow. I didn't expect anyone around here to get even that much.You say this every time it snows. Yes you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpiemaniac Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Funny reply to DT's last post: "You mention wxsouth over here from time to time....is there a way you could borrow (and keep) some of his professionalism? Why do you ALWAYS resort to 4th grade name calling?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Until you can explain how and why the upcoming pattern is going to support a greater chance of snow than what we've seen all winter long, stop whining about negativity. Blindingly saying, "Yay, it can snow at anytime" is just weenie speak. Sure something can pop up. But being realistic about how the winter has unfolded and how the pattern is likely to unfold isn't being negative. Why don't you show why you think the pattern is going to support greater chances of snow than what we've seen? Hoping for snow does not make it snow. And basing your position on hope is just as silly as saying it's never going to snow again. Being positive is still better than being negative all the time and whining about not getting snow. And if it doesn't snow, oh well, life goes on. But just reading time and time again it's not going to snow, it sucks, it's never snowing again just because it has not worked out so far is tiresome. No one wants to be around negativity like that all the time. You can be realistic about things, but it's more the overall negative tone all the time that is so annoying to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookout Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Insane that NYC got shafted epic letdown I am sure.....I was pretty convinced that the would have gotten at least 12-20" but it seems that was just east of the city... if not for that one band we talked about earlier, imagine what they would be saying lol So is this a win for the new GFS? I haven't been following the models too closely on this storm but knew there was a large discrepancy. Wasn't the Euro showing like 20"-30" for Boston? I would say so, as well as the rgem as it was showing a lot lesser amounts early on..as well as the hrrr/rap. The later consistently showed a further east solution from the get go once it was in range. It was one of the red flags for me early on. Many kept discounting it with some mets even trying to say it might be too far east because it had to do with the storm being off shore. Something to do with the fact that model it ingests radar data and due to the lack of radar data it was causing it to not see all the latent heat release or something (thus causing it to be too far east). I was thinking as early as yesterday afternoon that there was a decent shot of a miss here given some of the trends on the models. It seems to me too many were too heavily relying on the fact the euro has this reputation of being great all the time. In reality, I've never been a fan of it in short range situations. Other than the nam, whose totals were so absurd, I have a hard time labeling some of this as a bust though because in reality, the only thing that did bust was where the very sharp cutoff was going to be. I mean what are we talking a few tens of miles here? ..if that cutoff had been anywhere else it wouldn't be such a big deal. Instead it just so happened to be over the heart of the most populated area in the US so it appears to be much bigger than it is. For me, a lot of this depends on actual amounts in RI and to the east in Connecticut, as well as boston. If totals there don't live up to the 24 to 36 range, then I would be more inclined to label it a "bust". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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