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That's crazy. How does Atlanta not have a foot of snow in any storm in 135 years ? Even Birmingham and Macon and Columbia have had storms of that magnitude. I think even Columbus has had one too. Has Charleston or Savannah had storms of a foot or greater ? Maybe one of these days Atlanta's 1,000' + elevation will come in handy. 

Even Myrtle Beach and Wilmington has had a foot+ storms. Parts of the Columbia area had 20 inches in 1973.

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That's crazy. How does Atlanta not have a foot of snow in any storm in 135 years ? Even Birmingham and Macon and Columbia have had storms of that magnitude. I think even Columbus has had one too. Has Charleston or Savannah had storms of a foot or greater ? Maybe one of these days Atlanta's 1,000' + elevation will come in handy. 

Then I'm set! I'm at 1040 feet! :-)

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Has anyone ever heard of this Storm? 18" in Savannah GA. :yikes:

 

JANUARY 9-11, 1800: Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina

The single greatest snow accumulations ever reported from Florida to coastal Georgia and coastal South Carolina occurred on January 9-11 some 211 years ago in 1800. A survey party demarcating the border between Florida and Georgia was encamped at the mouth of St. Mary’s River near where Ft. Clinch State Park is now just north of the current site of Jacksonville, Florida. They reported heavy snow most of the day and night of January 10th and awoke to 5” of snow cover. More may have actually fallen and melted prior to sunrise on the 11th when they made their observation. In and around Savannah, Georgia 18” of snow fell with drifts up to 3-feet. Here the snow fell continuously for a 36-hour period from late evening January 9th until early morning January 11th. In Charleston, South Carolina, the State Gazette reported 8” of snow on level with severe drifting and gales. It would appear that Charleston was on the northern edge of the heaviest accumulations which were centered around Savannah. (For more about this event see Early American Winters: 1604-1820 pp. 159-160, by David M. Ludlum, American Meteorological Society, Boston, 1966).

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That's crazy. How does Atlanta not have a foot of snow in any storm in 135 years ? Even Birmingham and Macon and Columbia have had storms of that magnitude. I think even Columbus has had one too. Has Charleston or Savannah had storms of a foot or greater ? Maybe one of these days Atlanta's 1,000' + elevation will come in handy.

Snowstorm,

Even though BHM and MCN have had 12"+, it has only happened once if I'm not mistaken. So, with that being the case, it isn't hard IMO to see that ATL has had none. Also, consider that 3/1993 missed by only a few tens of miles. Furthermore, 1/1940 and 1/1893 both had ~10-11"...so near misses. Finally, consider that 2/1979 (PD1) had 1.2" of liquid equiv for that IP storm. That could have been 12" of snow. So, ATL has had bad luck in not getting one officially and is probably due for one within the next few decades.

SAV had one in 1/1800 believe it or not!

Edit: lol, I see that the huge SAV snow of 1/1800 was posted when I was typing this.

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Has anyone ever heard of this Storm? 18" in Savannah GA. :yikes:

 

JANUARY 9-11, 1800: Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina

The single greatest snow accumulations ever reported from Florida to coastal Georgia and coastal South Carolina occurred on January 9-11 some 211 years ago in 1800. A survey party demarcating the border between Florida and Georgia was encamped at the mouth of St. Mary’s River near where Ft. Clinch State Park is now just north of the current site of Jacksonville, Florida. They reported heavy snow most of the day and night of January 10th and awoke to 5” of snow cover. More may have actually fallen and melted prior to sunrise on the 11th when they made their observation. In and around Savannah, Georgia 18” of snow fell with drifts up to 3-feet. Here the snow fell continuously for a 36-hour period from late evening January 9th until early morning January 11th. In Charleston, South Carolina, the State Gazette reported 8” of snow on level with severe drifting and gales. It would appear that Charleston was on the northern edge of the heaviest accumulations which were centered around Savannah. (For more about this event see Early American Winters: 1604-1820 pp. 159-160, by David M. Ludlum, American Meteorological Society, Boston, 1966).

I remember back then... ;-)

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So hilarious to catch up on the boards after the models have lost the blizzard for the SE on Day 10. This is honestly better than stand up comedy.

 

Where have you been?  You're supposed to be here wallowing in your sorrows with us :D .  I've been so busy at work today I've been and out.  A good day to be busy.

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There's a reason it sounds like a broken record over the past 10+ years.

I feel like your avatar is going to look silly in the next two weeks. I don't know how you can give up now but I guess I understand because it's 1/23 and it's been snowless...but I like the way the end of this month and the first week of Feb looks and normally I'm pretty optimistic but I'm very optimistic right now. My optimism meter is off the charts at this point. You know the pattern can produce when we start seeing cutoffs and large phases tapping gulf moisture with a good high and getting 15" in Raleigh on multiple models. That's not on accident. To believe truly in that solution though was silly on anyone's part but the pattern can and could produce, still.

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Where have you been?  You're supposed to be here wallowing in your sorrows with us :D .  I've been so busy at work today I've been and out.  A good day to be busy.

I had to study all week for an exam today, but I'm back at least for a little bit to throw some optimism on the boards. haha but I agree with you, good day to miss the model runs. I was coming on here thinking I'd still see people breaking apart QPF and temps for the Day 10 storm and I come to see people jumped...all in 24 hours or so it appears from reading through. We say it all the time -- don't hang on each and every model run, yet people do. Le sigh.

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I feel like your avatar is going to look silly in the next two weeks. I don't know how you can give up now but I guess I understand because it's 1/23 and it's been snowless...but I like the way the end of this month and the first week of Feb looks and normally I'm pretty optimistic but I'm very optimistic right now. My optimism meter is off the charts at this point. You know the pattern can produce when we start seeing cutoffs and large phases tapping gulf moisture with a good high and getting 15" in Raleigh on multiple models. That's not on accident. To believe truly in that solution though was silly on anyone's part but the pattern can and could produce, still.

Good post, I agree I think the pattern will produce in the time frame you have outlined. It's going to be a late start to winter storms, and probably no spring this year......

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The crazy thing about 1799-1800 was not just the insane jan 9-11 snowstorm. I looked at Charleston daily records and found that they had snows of 3", 2", and 1/2" as well as two unmeasured events (likely traces/flurries) in Jan/Feb 1800 in addition to their 8" from 1/9-11. How insane is that? I don't know if SAV got anything measurable outside of the 18"er because I haven't found their daily records from that winter.

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I feel like your avatar is going to look silly in the next two weeks. I don't know how you can give up now but I guess I understand because it's 1/23 and it's been snowless...but I like the way the end of this month and the first week of Feb looks and normally I'm pretty optimistic but I'm very optimistic right now. My optimism meter is off the charts at this point. You know the pattern can produce when we start seeing cutoffs and large phases tapping gulf moisture with a good high and getting 15" in Raleigh on multiple models. That's not on accident. To believe truly in that solution though was silly on anyone's part but the pattern can and could produce, still.

Post of the week here.....

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The crazy thing about 1799-1800 was not just the insane jan 9-11 snowstorm. I looked at Charleston daily records and found that they had snows of 3", 2", and 1/2" as well as two unmeasured events (likely traces/flurries) in Jan/Feb 1800 in addition to their 8" from 1/9-11. How insane is that? I don't know if SAV got anything measurable outside of the 18"er because I haven't found their daily records from that winter.

Thats just insane. I also heard that Charleston,.( wouldve been downtown back then also hit 0F. I can't fathon how cold North Carolina and upper South Carolina was that winter...... Would make 1989 and 1985 look like a spring thaw. Imagine Mt Mitchell...... :yikes:

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Has anyone ever heard of this Storm? 18" in Savannah GA. :yikes:

 

JANUARY 9-11, 1800: Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina

The single greatest snow accumulations ever reported from Florida to coastal Georgia and coastal South Carolina occurred on January 9-11 some 211 years ago in 1800. A survey party demarcating the border between Florida and Georgia was encamped at the mouth of St. Mary’s River near where Ft. Clinch State Park is now just north of the current site of Jacksonville, Florida. They reported heavy snow most of the day and night of January 10th and awoke to 5” of snow cover. More may have actually fallen and melted prior to sunrise on the 11th when they made their observation. In and around Savannah, Georgia 18” of snow fell with drifts up to 3-feet. Here the snow fell continuously for a 36-hour period from late evening January 9th until early morning January 11th. In Charleston, South Carolina, the State Gazette reported 8” of snow on level with severe drifting and gales. It would appear that Charleston was on the northern edge of the heaviest accumulations which were centered around Savannah. (For more about this event see Early American Winters: 1604-1820 pp. 159-160, by David M. Ludlum, American Meteorological Society, Boston, 1966).

Wow--I've always thought the biggest central/south GA storm to be the one in '73. Kinda sad that I've never seen a storm drop more than that 7" or so  that I saw here in 2011

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