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Here's a good rule of thumb for you...a freebie of sorts:  Clippers trend north.  So, when you absorb, hear, see, read, etc. someone say that a clipper 5 days away looks awesome for NC to see snow, make plans to head to northern VA.  Forget about models doing badly inside outside upside down of three days.  Clippers trend north.  Live by that rule, and you'll be right 99% of the time.  If you hear someone say a clipper brings snow to Orlando in 5 days, then maybe, just maybe, you'll have a chance of seeing some flakes.

It's all in the angle of the dangle.

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I know, but sometimes they have worked out for us. You'd think the models would get it right once outside 3 days, but it seems that only happens when they show warm and sunny.

High pressure systems have a higher probability of being correct as modeled. They are a larger feature than a 100 mile across low pressure system that may or may not even form.

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100 pages of no winter and counting.

LOL..I am out, I dropped my modeling subscriptions, except for AMWx to support Allan. LR sucks, no blocking, more of the same, ridging in the west with trough in the east but with no blocking it sucks for us. Great for people north of us though.

Haven't looked at overnight models but let me guess the super clipper is coming in north and thus warmer, LOL.

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LOL..I am out, I dropped my modeling subscriptions, except for AMWx to support Allan. LR sucks, no blocking, more of the same, ridging in the west with trough in the east but with no blocking it sucks for us. Great for people north of us though.

Haven't looked at overnight models but let me guess the super clipper is coming in north and thus warmer, LOL.

see you after the 12z eps.
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LOL..I am out, I dropped my modeling subscriptions, except for AMWx to support Allan. LR sucks, no blocking, more of the same, ridging in the west with trough in the east but with no blocking it sucks for us. Great for people north of us though.

Haven't looked at overnight models but let me guess the super clipper is coming in north and thus warmer, LOL.

 

Pretty much.  Temps are ok, but the 0z GFS was the only one that looked decent.  Tracks the low through southern NC.

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Yeah I can't believe we have a Miller A/Gulf Storm in late January with a great track, and it's a cold, cold, rain.  Starting to think we get shut out this winter in CLT.

 

I only wanted two things this winter, an active STJ and a -NAO.  Didn't get it.  I don't think Feb is going to be any different. 

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High pressure systems have a higher probability of being correct as modeled. They are a larger feature than a 100 mile across low pressure system that may or may not even form.

That, my friend, is a very good piece of information to remember. You could forecast only by high pressures and probably be right about 99% of the time out to 5 days.

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There is no indication that February is going to change. We should be seeing massive signs right now in the late periods of modeling if it were going to happen.

 

2014-2015 is set. It's not favorable for snow for anyone south of I-40.

 

Yeah I can't believe we have a Miller A/Gulf Storm in late January with a great track, and it's a cold, cold, rain.  Starting to think we get shut out this winter in CLT.

 

I only wanted two things this winter, an active STJ and a -NAO.  Didn't get it.  I don't think Feb is going to be any different. 

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That, my friend, is a very good piece of information to remember. You could forecast only by high pressures and probably be right about 99% of the time out to 5 days.

 

The 1% being when the model shows a good HP hanging out in the NE to promote good CAD 5 days out.  Of course at D0, it's well offshore. :)

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Yeah I can't believe we have a Miller A/Gulf Storm in late January with a great track, and it's a cold, cold, rain.  Starting to think we get shut out this winter in CLT.

 

I only wanted two things this winter, an active STJ and a -NAO.  Didn't get it.  I don't think Feb is going to be any different. 

 

Still holding at D10, but:

 

ECMWFWEFSWCEF (Excellent -AO, -NAO, +PNA, -EPO, STJ) -- Great pattern:

 

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GFS (Nice +PNA, -EPO, STJ):

 

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CMC eh (Similar to Euro):

 

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Who knows...maybe this time, things will be different.

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There is no indication that February is going to change. We should be seeing massive signs right now in the late periods of modeling if it were going to happen.

2014-2015 is set. It's not favorable for snow for anyone south of I-40.

are you saying that we could go the entire winter without a single snowflake or sleet pellet ? In my entire lifetime living here that has never occurred. Even in the dreadful winters of 05-06, 06-07, 11-12, 12-13 we at least saw something frozen falling out of the sky.
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Still holding at D10, but:

 

ECMWFWEFSWCEF (Excellent -AO, -NAO, +PNA, -EPO, STJ) -- Great pattern:

 

 

 

GFS (Nice +PNA, -EPO, STJ):

 

 

 

CMC eh (Similar to Euro):

 

 

 

Who knows...maybe this time, things will be different.

 

Good post Cold Rain!  I almost cancelled my model subscription yesterday but decided I'll give February a chance.  We'd probably  have better luck if I did cancel though.... :whistle:

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Good post Cold Rain!  I almost cancelled my model subscription yesterday but decided I'll give February a chance.  We'd probably  have better luck if I did cancel though.... :whistle:

 

Nah!  We're already down one subscription (see Packbacker), so we don't need to lose anymore heading into our big snow period!  You did the right thing hanging on for another month. :)

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